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kirennia
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Tonight we made up a random raid that went pear shaped, many reasons, one part was kinda my fault but anyways, heres the main beef about it all.
It was assigned that Hinan was relic leader but half way through he asked me to lead because he was getting spammed senceless for cg invites. So anyways, he became the cg leader instead and left me to driving and /yelling orders. It started off ..... not very well tbh. When I say it was a rushed raid, I really do mean it was a rushed raid. I offered in the cg 11 rams. I had 7 in sausage and 4 at odins pk. Of all of these offered, only 4 were picked up, so I thought that everyone must be okay, have their own rams etc so didn't put anymore thought into it as people were saying they were fine. half way there, asked who had what rams etc. No reply. Ask again, some1 says they r carrying a ram solo. So that makes 5 rams. I then repeated a few more times and it was obvious it wasn't going to succeed with such little siege equipment but none-the-less people still seemed happy to carry on and were giggling about how it wasn't gonna work. Then the pm's start.....I had 7 different people pm'ing we in all, all saying, lets do this instead, every though most people were still dead set on at least giving it a go. People were saying 'well at least when this goes wrong i can go to sleep knowing I would have done the right thing'. Okay so what shall I do.....listen to the majority or suddenly turn around and say.....some1's just pmed me saying lets do summitelsse so lets turn around and go do this instead? Once the wheels are in motion, it is extremely difficult to stop again. From experience of previous raids where people have logged off, left, suggested summitelse, sticking to the original plan when in a big raid is the only way forward. I had many suggestions, including taking 3 different keeps instead, taking the force aaaaaaall the way to emain and bash on their power relic instead (imagine the logistics of turning round 70 people at 11 oclock at night when most are going to log soon anyways), going to kill legion (no comment) and other more plausable ideas. Anyways, I was then getting nasty pm's from people constantly about the entire thing. I was not particularly impressed : / The moral of the story here is if you have an idea in the middle of a raid, the chances are a lot of people also have ideas and it doesn't help to be spammed in the middle of trying to drive and figure a way of attack out.
Anyways, we move on, getting closer and closer and then find out that more people have rams so thats okay but it helps a lot to know before hand so you can set out who goes where. So when a raid leader asks a question, please don't presume they know already, answer. Then, we draw closer and I yell out who should use which ram for which door and then find out the ram carrying groups weren't with the zerg : /
So then I changed the ram groups again and we drew closer...I then receive word of mids roaming around the keep (/send) so try to proceed with haste.
As we draw upto the slope of the relic keep, I get some1 pm'ing me saying 'FFS, ANSWER MY DAMN QUESTION', I read up the chat, find out they wanted to take a keep instead (3 different suggestions of this) by which time, my lapse in concentration has meant I've auto walked the zerg onto the bottom of the slope and didnt have time to set-up a yell of orders or think about it. On noticing this I stupidly /yell CHARGE!!!.....
.....probably the n00biest thing you can ever yell when faced by lvl 70 mobs.....
It was a split second angry /yell which caused a wipe-out. The whole thing had gone terribly wrong, I then look around my corpse and see some mages simply standing, looking afk and/or bewildered.
Couple of pm's later of 'told you so' kinda got to me but went back to try take a keep which also failed by a mass of mids when the first door of nottmoor was half down. One second the grps health was at full, 2 seconds of computer catch up later, the entire team was in the red, few seconds later, the entire force disintegrated.
Overall felt a bit of a wally but the moral of the story is that spontaneous raids with mixed groups and mixing command doesn't work.
Over my entire DAoC career I like to think I've made next to no enemies in Albion but this combined with my saturday fiasco cause my alarm didn't bloody go off (raid leader not showing is never good) has probably made me more enemies then I want to think about
To those I screwed it up for, sorry did everythin in my power to try an avoid the inevitable, I intend to buy several alarms so that, okay I'll wake up and have a heart attack but at least I'll be on time for the future raids
A confused, Kirennia
p.s.Sorry for long thread but if it cuts down future spam then I hope it's worth it
It was assigned that Hinan was relic leader but half way through he asked me to lead because he was getting spammed senceless for cg invites. So anyways, he became the cg leader instead and left me to driving and /yelling orders. It started off ..... not very well tbh. When I say it was a rushed raid, I really do mean it was a rushed raid. I offered in the cg 11 rams. I had 7 in sausage and 4 at odins pk. Of all of these offered, only 4 were picked up, so I thought that everyone must be okay, have their own rams etc so didn't put anymore thought into it as people were saying they were fine. half way there, asked who had what rams etc. No reply. Ask again, some1 says they r carrying a ram solo. So that makes 5 rams. I then repeated a few more times and it was obvious it wasn't going to succeed with such little siege equipment but none-the-less people still seemed happy to carry on and were giggling about how it wasn't gonna work. Then the pm's start.....I had 7 different people pm'ing we in all, all saying, lets do this instead, every though most people were still dead set on at least giving it a go. People were saying 'well at least when this goes wrong i can go to sleep knowing I would have done the right thing'. Okay so what shall I do.....listen to the majority or suddenly turn around and say.....some1's just pmed me saying lets do summitelsse so lets turn around and go do this instead? Once the wheels are in motion, it is extremely difficult to stop again. From experience of previous raids where people have logged off, left, suggested summitelse, sticking to the original plan when in a big raid is the only way forward. I had many suggestions, including taking 3 different keeps instead, taking the force aaaaaaall the way to emain and bash on their power relic instead (imagine the logistics of turning round 70 people at 11 oclock at night when most are going to log soon anyways), going to kill legion (no comment) and other more plausable ideas. Anyways, I was then getting nasty pm's from people constantly about the entire thing. I was not particularly impressed : / The moral of the story here is if you have an idea in the middle of a raid, the chances are a lot of people also have ideas and it doesn't help to be spammed in the middle of trying to drive and figure a way of attack out.
Anyways, we move on, getting closer and closer and then find out that more people have rams so thats okay but it helps a lot to know before hand so you can set out who goes where. So when a raid leader asks a question, please don't presume they know already, answer. Then, we draw closer and I yell out who should use which ram for which door and then find out the ram carrying groups weren't with the zerg : /
So then I changed the ram groups again and we drew closer...I then receive word of mids roaming around the keep (/send) so try to proceed with haste.
As we draw upto the slope of the relic keep, I get some1 pm'ing me saying 'FFS, ANSWER MY DAMN QUESTION', I read up the chat, find out they wanted to take a keep instead (3 different suggestions of this) by which time, my lapse in concentration has meant I've auto walked the zerg onto the bottom of the slope and didnt have time to set-up a yell of orders or think about it. On noticing this I stupidly /yell CHARGE!!!.....
.....probably the n00biest thing you can ever yell when faced by lvl 70 mobs.....
It was a split second angry /yell which caused a wipe-out. The whole thing had gone terribly wrong, I then look around my corpse and see some mages simply standing, looking afk and/or bewildered.
Couple of pm's later of 'told you so' kinda got to me but went back to try take a keep which also failed by a mass of mids when the first door of nottmoor was half down. One second the grps health was at full, 2 seconds of computer catch up later, the entire team was in the red, few seconds later, the entire force disintegrated.
Overall felt a bit of a wally but the moral of the story is that spontaneous raids with mixed groups and mixing command doesn't work.
Over my entire DAoC career I like to think I've made next to no enemies in Albion but this combined with my saturday fiasco cause my alarm didn't bloody go off (raid leader not showing is never good) has probably made me more enemies then I want to think about
To those I screwed it up for, sorry did everythin in my power to try an avoid the inevitable, I intend to buy several alarms so that, okay I'll wake up and have a heart attack but at least I'll be on time for the future raids A confused, Kirennia
p.s.Sorry for long thread but if it cuts down future spam then I hope it's worth it
