Pensioner pwns hospital

DocWolfe

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apparently you get a free pair of trainers if your an immigrant and on benefits :eek:
 

liloe

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Raven said:
all lazy people should be deported to france where they can be lazy for a living

You wish it was like that Raven :p

Btw, in Germany you can charge more money from private insurance people, so they always come first. Working collegue of my mother phoned to doc and wanted an appointment and they said she could come in 1 week. She answered that she was private insured....got an appointment next day. Fairness? Hell no.
 

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cHodAX said:
No one should be taking out more than they put in but you have to realise that old fella paid 50 odd years of contributions. The monetary value of that is huge and all he needed was a £7000 operation. We aren't talking a triple heart bypass here. He wasn't given the option of making those tax and insurance contributions, he was forced and therefore he is completly entitled to get a service he has more than paid for.

I think the news story is hyping his case too much if his life was at risk he would get put on the front of the waiting list. My sister kept fainting because she was dizzy her Doctor though she might have a brain tumor, so later the same day she got a mri and some other tests when they found out her life was not in danger she went to the back of the que for the other tests, that’s just how the NHS works. Private hospitals work the way they do because you could walk into the place with a stubbed toe and as long as you have the cash you get the operation you want.

Don't get me wrong the old boy should get his operation and allot quicker but blaming the doctors that work on the private sector is out of order. If I was a doctor would I rather work in a new ultra modern private hospital that’s clean, Or a NHS piece of crap with the super bug where my patients keep dieing.

The old guy should have got his operation you can't disagree but to try saying fraud is ok is wrong.

IMO of course
 

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cHodAX said:
And why are there not enough support staff in the NHS?

..snip..

experience of the system as well and my opinions are based on things I have actually seen.
I'm a little tierd so i wont cut apart your whole argument, but oyu make a hell of alot of assumptions which simply arent true.
GP's are employed by the NHS which is why the NHS can govern what they do,
A private hospital is in partnership with the NHS (most private clinics are), this is so that if there is a emergency and they need more room the private clinic can take the overflow.
Surgeons are NOT explicitly employed by the NHS, they are given a quota becuase their hospital/clinic is affiliated with it, they do not have a choice in the matter. All of the operations they perform out of NHS employed time is effectively done in their own spare time.

Lets use a analogy, if you were in IT support.
The NHS pays you to come in and repair their pc's one day a week (you do not have a choice in the matter), under quite frankly shit conditions.
Opposed to doing the same job private, in better conditions, with less red tape, with less beurocracy and more money.
Then someone from the NHS asks you whether you want to do more days of the week with them,
which would you choose?

I'm sorry your experience was a bad one, but the fact of the matter is your condition wasnt life threatening and quite rightly so you were put on a waiting list so that people in more need than you who will die if they dont get treatment are seen to first.
As for the old guy he is exadurating, noone is put on that long a list if his life is in immediate danger,
once again you are seriously saying that the NHS should be discriminating on who should be seen first?
hell why not just do it Nazi style altogether, if your not blonde haired, blue eyed your not being seen at all

As for immigrants, take it to another topic plz :), or this thread is gona get really confusing ><
 

old.Tohtori

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Hell...that's just breaking the law, but also a stupidity of the hospital for not checking the cheque.

Should treat as a criminal, not praise for "screwing" the system.

I've paid my share of taxes, nearly 40.000 euros, and at this time in my life i'd need money to keep on living. But the goverment isn't paying me nothing more then tiddlywinks.

But i don't go around robbing people... :eek6:
 

Succi

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Chronictank said:
The guy should go to jail for abusing the system, if he isn't punished then you are opening the door for other people to abuse the system and the already stretched NHS will fall to pieces.
Removing private care will increase the work load on the NHS, and it will be in a worse state than it already is. Sorry to be brash but it is plain short sighted to think that is the solution as the doctors who want the money will simply go abroad and the ones left will have a bigger workload than they already do

At the end of they day you are saying its "ok" to be dishonest, he should go to jail for breaking the law as thats exactly what the law is, a set of rules who arent dependant on any form of discrimination

Yep so true , Society is built around certain rules and when people start to break them things can go downhill fast. Thats why I was so amazed at the short-sightedness of many of the people in this thread saying "Nice one!!" ... look beyond the end of your own nose for once mates
 

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