Pbaoe groups still viable option?

[Bowmaden]

I'm suprised we haven't seen this type of setup run before
Basic setup

Healer Pac
Healer Mend
Shaman
Zerker
Warrior
Warlock
Warlock
Spirit Master

How it works

Pretty much the same as the hold style pbaoe groups, but instead of relying on SM pbaoe to kill now the Warlocks Have 2 DD/Pbaoe Chambers up instead.

If you get the 'drop' on the enemy, you can do the normal AoE Stun/Lots of pbaoe.
In Open combat the warlocks form a Pbaoe box, assist using normal DD/LT with the 3 of them using Matter nukes etc they should have enough DPS to take down any caster. If tanks charge the box, the warlocks fire all there pbaoe chambers, this should take down any assist train with a BG to back things up if theres any problems. Zerker Banelord has 2 uses in the group, first being to Harase the enemy crowd controler, second is to Bomb/Spike when pbaoe happens. Warrior ofc will problem be /stuck to the SM most of the battle and may be used to Grapple enemys to keep them from moving out of pbaoe

 

[Bluesky]

From watching the House of Ahm - Adrenaline movies from the US servers Id definitely say the "Bomb Group" is viable. They use a bd quite a lot aswell for the TWF on top of 2 sup sm + warlock + support and I have to say their kill rate is awesome - the movies are very very cool aswell

On Prydwen you dont tend to see many sup sm's anymore due to their use being very situational unless ofc setup to be made into a bomb group - overall I would imagine there are a lot less opted groups here so for random groups dark spec is more useful.

Saying that though Id love to be a part of a bomb group like the Ahm guys and gals run - amazing to see it in action

 

[Heta]

on classic server I say sure, but on a ToA server with all the tricks from a banelord, Demoralization and other tools he have a pbaoe group just do to little damage and will die away fast.

tho vs the zerg it may ofc still work, but not vs set GG's

 

[Bubble]

Original Post was by me

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Supp Groups only work 'cause they're building on the stupidity of their opponents. Against somewhat experienced players you'll lose your main form of damage output. (PBAE)

 

[Bubble]

Supp Groups only work 'cause they're building on the stupidity of their opponents. Against somewhat experienced players you'll lose your main form of damage output. (PBAE)

Yes True, but 2 Warlocks assisting with DD/LT vollys should be enough DPS to take down pretty much anything

 

[Heta]

sm's are way better then warlocks, warlocks got there initial dmg, then they go down. And for a assist train its kinda impossible to miss a warlock and they will always die first.

 

[Zebolt]

change the zerker for a BD and it will be better :>

 

[Bubble]

change the zerker for a BD and it will be better :>

good point
forgot they have Banelord lines

 

[atos]

well.. with loads of grpple bots and pbaoe damage I see bobmgroups being viable.

 

[Brite]

all house of ahm videos show is how stupid american players are and how a shit player in EU could do well over there

a group like that would die like the 1 trick ponys they are, best going for a usual setup but using some twf and banelord bomb to wipe zergs with maybe a split spec supp/dark sm but still keeping the ability to actually win fights

pb bomb groups may win a 8 vs 8 fight once a year and maybe able to wipe half a zerg before they die blowing all RAs but i just dont see the fun or challenge, maybe fun to run for a few nights, but then it would get old fast

 

[Chronictank]

wouldnt work on EU,
based on excal rvr (where you soon will be fighting),
every grp splits on inc or sos and spread if hib/alb.
You would be better
Healer
Healer
Healer/Skald
Shaman
Warlock
Zerker
Zerker
Bonedancer

That means on the offchance you have the opertunity to bomb, zerker and warlock can agony and then warlock can hit his chambered pbaoe''s to finish the job/cast powerless. But still be viable against a opted grp if they arent boxed

 

[pjuppe]

i've had my doubts about a pure bombgrp working on the server and i still do. but i think a grp with bombing-abilities can do quite well. tried 1pac-healer, 1aug-healer, 1shaman, 2suppSMs, 1skald, 1BD (was ml0 at the time) and 1 ML8+ zerk and did quite well.


i think a grpsetup with 1pac-healer, 1aug-healer, 1shaman, 2suppSMs, 1skald, 1BGwarrior and 1 zerk can compete quite well. i want to try that one with coo coo but since aci won't respec supp and the stupid danes won't let me play my skald i think the chances of that ever happening is rather slim

 

[blejs]

add stuff like in that case to

2healers
1shammy
1warrior
1rc rm for debuff and AE spears >|
2supp sm
1zerk


or 1supp sm and 1bd

or wiat
1 thane instaid or warrior for Static temple

 

[atos]

I still say it works with grapplebots.

 

[Brite]

zergs dont stack as well as they used to so only thing thats viable is twf + 2/3 banelord bombs with small AE to finish the zerg off, bomb groups are just for suckers tbh

 

[Vilje]

zergs dont stack as well as they used to so only thing thats viable is twf + 2/3 banelord bombs with small AE to finish the zerg off, bomb groups are just for suckers tbh

Oo

why? =)

 

[SkarIronfist]

Found that the Supp SM bombs are so hard to land. Against beginners with little or no RAs its not a problem. But against better groups then it pretty easy for them to stop.

They can Sos, purge, CB away from the initial mez, if they have banelord in the group, then one zone of unmana just destroys the casting speed of supp sms, also interrupts the 2nd cast. Also what you often find is one supp sm makes it, but the others get mezzed. So its pretty hard deliver all to the centre of the group.

As people would say, very situational at best.