Parking fines and other(s) illegal?

[Cyfr]

Hmm maybe i'm understanding this incorrectly..
but we don't give people who work at supermarkets extra cash on top of their wage so they serve us do we? As they could just sit around not doing anything.. they would get sacked

 

[Damini]

You can see the reasoning behind it - if they had no incentive to, why would they bother dealing with the agro of ticketing cars. However it is a terrible idea.

If that *is* the logic behind it, you should pay police per arrest - much, much more agro. Lets face it, its a form of revenue, much like speed cameras.

 

[tris-]

And tris, laws are only respected if they're seen as just. And parking on double yellows is not a criminal offence, but stealing DVDs is. Perhaps you'll start questioning these things once you pay tax, and see how its wasted.

i already pay taxes.

imo if you break the law then stop crying and deal with it. if my tax money is 'wasted' in making sure you are caught etc then so be it. maybe people will start learning.

 

[nath]

If that *is* the logic behind it, you should pay police per arrest - much, much more agro. Lets face it, its a form of revenue, much like speed cameras.

Well, they do have quotas that they have to fill - which is why they sometimes go after pointless things that are less dangerous to keep the numbers up (so I hear).

 

[Munkey]

yeah, I've been reading a policeman's blog and he talks about this quite alot


http://coppersblog.blogspot.com

 

[Tom]

i already pay taxes.

imo if you break the law then stop crying and deal with it. if my tax money is 'wasted' in making sure you are caught etc then so be it. maybe people will start learning.

So you're basically a sheep who goes along with whatever they're told, rather than questioning things?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Parking attendants are scum.

I have been booked loading outside my workplace for having a wheel <1cm over onto "public" paving. Despite there being no lines or seperation of area, the attendants just made it up.

I have been parked in a privately owned business car park at work and had a traffic attendant walk INTO the car park, and give me a parking ticket. Two days later he tried the same thing.

This kind of thread wouldn't have to exist if parking tickets were dealt out fairly. The problem you non-drivers can't see and don't have to deal with is that they are very frequently given out for no reason.

Hell, the other week I was walking up London Road, in Brighton. This is a wide road, double yellows. No other parking nearby for all the shop fronts. There was a disabled badge holder parked at the side of the road in front of a chemists. As I walked past I saw him booking the car. I turned round and called him a "****". Not often I'd be so aggressive but he was clearly being a ****. He didn't even wait by the car for a minute first, like they should have to. He just walked up to the car, booked it and walked on. When I called him a **** he replied "this areas has to be kept clear". This road at this section is 3 lanes long, a slow moving 30, one way traffic, with room to park on both sides and keep the lanes free of obstruction.

This is the problem: cunty parking attendants. This is why paying parking fines is an issue. Thousands of people every day are unfairly penalised. How would you like it if you had to pay a £40 fine because the council won't provide any disabled parking spaces/any local parking spaces, just because you were disabled and needed to go and get medicine from the chemists. It's fucking sickening the lengths wardens will go to to reach their bonus.

 

[Driwen]

Hmm maybe i'm understanding this incorrectly..
but we don't give people who work at supermarkets extra cash on top of their wage so they serve us do we? As they could just sit around not doing anything.. they would get sacked

Its kinda harder to check wether a parking attendant is doing his job than wether someone working at a supermarket though. If a parking attendant doesnt write out any fines, is that because he isnt doing his job or just because there isnt any to hand out (off course you can check things, but it is harder to do so).

However I do think that parking attendants should try to resolve stuff without writing a ticket. If the driver is around than imo its better to tell him that he cant park there than write him a ticket.

 

[tris-]

So you're basically a sheep who goes along with whatever they're told, rather than questioning things?

no.
like i said, i believe that if you break the law then you should accept the shit you will get from it and stop crying. if mine and your tax is wasted then stop breaking the law and it wont be wasted anymore.
i may or may not frequently break the law but if i ever get caught then i will accept it, it was my fault. im not gonna cry and try find some loop hole to get out of it.

 

[Tom]

Honestly tris, by your standards, women still wouldn't have the vote.

 

[tris-]

why do you say that?
what ever reason, you are wrong anyway.

all i am saying is if you break the law then accept it and dont complain you got caught.

 

[Munkey]

why do you say that?
what ever reason, you are wrong anyway.

all i am saying is if you break the law then accept it and dont complain you got caught.

I think he's referring to the fact that women had to break the law before they were able to recieve the priviledge to vote.

 

[Cyfr]

Right well, apparently this law dosnt work for clamping.

Anyway, anyone want to give any advice, my mum was clamped, she was parked where there was NO lines, and the only sign we could find said '45 mins loading', however there are lil boxes for peopel to park where they load, and the woman said that if we were there, it would have been fine.

However, we were parked next to a building, which apparently is Grade something listed.. or something, so they can't put a sign up.. WELL HOW THE HELL ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY CAN'T PARK THERE THEN?? JUST GUESS? Arrrg.

Photos have been taken, what should we do next?

 

[Doh_boy]

Right well, apparently this law dosnt work for clamping.

Anyway, anyone want to give any advice, my mum was clamped, she was parked where there was NO lines, and the only sign we could find said '45 mins loading', however there are lil boxes for peopel to park where they load, and the woman said that if we were there, it would have been fine.

However, we were parked next to a building, which apparently is Grade something listed.. or something, so they can't put a sign up.. WELL HOW THE HELL ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY CAN'T PARK THERE THEN?? JUST GUESS? Arrrg.

Photos have been taken, what should we do next?

Write to your MP/The Times.

 

[Calaen]

Park an inch out of a bay around Manchester and you'll get fined. Stay 5 minutes longer than you're allowed and you get fined. Park slightly over double yellows - fined.

Its not even as if the level of fines are appropriate. Just another revenue raiser AFAIC.

The only thing I have learned since starting reading here is that Tom hates the Law he likes breaking rules.

He can speed in his car because he is in control of it. he can park on a double yellow because he is Tom.

but he does make me laugh which is great.

 

[GekuL]

Speeding is one thing, it's relatively straight forward to avoid getting caught (even if you don't agree with the limits) so there's not much room for complaint when you are. Parking offences are harder to avoid, and traffic wardens are ***** that are unwilling to take in to consideration other factors.
I needed to go to a child development centre with my little brother recently, the parking near this place is ridiculous. There are very few spaces, with the majority being residents only parking (completely empty ofcourse because they're all at work). We're driving through these empty roads trying to find a parking space that's not residents only. The traffic warden is practically camped outside this centre booking people that have lost patience, usually because they are late for the appointment they've had to wait months to get.
He was there for about half an hour. We eventually found a place about a mile down the road and were a little late. It's something the doctors at this place are used to though, as they have had multiple parking tickets themselves. What a joke.

 

[Paradroid]

Maybe what we're seeing here is, the realisation of, a lack of freedom that drivers used to enjoy.

I must admit, I laughed at one of Toms earlier posts, 'cause it read like the diary of Homer Simpson. Does he ever get out the car and walk a few feet? Is he typing right now through his car window?

Gekuls post highlighted that a simple phone call to check the parking in that area would have solved his problem - which I suppose isn't such an infringement on earlier said freedoms (unless, of course, the parkings kack).

People are people, and some people are c*nts ... therefore, some traffic wardens are c*nts. If you've been royally fuked over, then complain, contest the fine - argue your case (if the warden is a c*nt he might have a history of this and it might go in your favour).

Take the council to court? Sounds nice - although to me it's energy wasted on a frivolous cause - but what if you lose? The standard fines are setup...erm...as such. You get a ticket, you pay a standard fine. What happens if you get involved in a court case and you lose? Wont you get the court costs on top of a wasting our time/make example of you fine?

For a laugh I'd sponsor Toms test-case, maybe we could get a Freddys lobby group put together (if only to see the pictures of Tom entering & leaving the courthouse in his car, driving up the steps and through the doors...driving out to a mass of photographers from the press, a big "thumbs-up" from his car window).

 

[GekuL]

I knew very well what the parking in the area is like. There is however, no way of knowing whether there are free spaces until I am physically there.
The reason I posted that example was to highlight the fact that you can't blindly stick to the rule book. Technically, the warden is doing nothing wrong. But I would say that specifically targetting such an area, with so much unused parking space at that time (that can't be used), where parking doesn't affect the flow of traffic and where people have to park nearby can't be justified as reasonable.
I wouldn't, for example, say to anyone with a fine outside that place "if you break the law then you should accept the shit you will get from it and stop crying".
It's these examples of attendants that are technically correct (although petty) but who could so easily show a degree of leniency that annoy some people.

 

[Tom]

The only thing I have learned since starting reading here is that Tom hates the Law he likes breaking rules.

He can speed in his car because he is in control of it. he can park on a double yellow because he is Tom.

but he does make me laugh which is great.

Hey, congratulations for completely missing the point. Never mind, next time try reading a few more of my posts before exposing yourself to thoughts of idiocy.