parents being dickheads

[Calaen]

Yeah, you moved away at 16, you after that had every right to do what ever the f*ck you like. I could ask you the same, what f*cking bizarre world you live in where you don't respect anyone else but yourself and only live and do what's good for YOU?

It's not bizarre to do things for your parents, when you know that they would prefer something, and not be an a-hole teenager ALL THE TIME.

They didn't tell me what to wear, on average days, but at parties such as funerals, weddings, christenings and whatnot, they said "THere's a dresscode, should wear nice." and there was no backtalk because it didn't matter to me that my "emo ego was hurt for wearing a suit" or "I can't support my band today". I wore the "good clothes" for the sake of them being happier, and that's about it.

Like i said, some respected their parents(i couldn't give a flying toss about my father today) and sometimes people ACTUALLY do things to other people just because they would like it.

You say parents don't have a right to tell what their kids should wear(at times), i say they do. They earned it. They brought you up, probably paid for those clothes, paid for the roof over your head, paid for the daily food and chilcren(like Bugz) don't give a flying f*ck about it these days.




The youngster shouldn't talk that much when acting like a moron.

My views arn't based on "wanting to be different" and many here agree on things i say. Just 'cause it's different from you, doesn't make it wrong.

Ah so you are one of those that was spoon fed till you left home, bless your cotton fucking socks. I was putting money into my mother hands from the age of 13 to help out (single parent) You know nothing of Dudley he could be paying board which means HE IS PAYING HIS KEEP.

I am sorry for the use of language not gonna pretend I am as good as most people for typing out things with correct grammar and punctuation cause that is not me. But you can never tell when you are being sarcastic or just trying to be a knob because of the way you post.

I had the up most respect for my mother she had 3 jobs to bring me and my sister up, but your parents are supposed to teach you so that when you are the age of 16 you can start and take responsibility for your own actions, you make your decisions based upon how your parents have brought you up.

Parents flying off the handles because of a jumper is way to over the top. taking drugs, smoking stealing or variuos other things yes. but the refusal to not wear a jumper that is by no means untidy is an absolute joke.

So you can go and put your nice little, perfectly ironed pj's on like mummy told you to wear every night. Or you can make a decision to not be a little faggot and make your own choices. Which does not mean you are being disrespectful. You gotta give a little to get some back and a lot of parents nowadays forget this. Just because they brought you up does not give them the right to tell you what you can and cannot do until the day you leave the house.
If this is what you consider to be a good upbringing I pity you.

 

[old.Tohtori]

So you can go and put your nice little, perfectly ironed pj's on like mummy told you to wear every night. Or you can make a decision to not be a little faggot and make your own choices.

Ah so you are one of those that was spoon fed till you left home, bless your cotton fucking socks..

These two things in your post almost made me want to rip your head off, but not gonna, since i know you're just venting like that 'cause you misunderstood my post.

I meant that sometimes it's the parents who have to chill too, BUT ALSO, most the time kids are unrespectful brats who can't take ONE MOMENT to please their parents in situations that mean f*ck all to them(kids) really, BUT means a lot more to the parents.

It's just a case of having common courtesy and thankfulnes(yeah not a word i think) about the things that are given to you for free. 'cause even YOU have to agree that kids don't appreciate all the things that are free in life when living at home.

By the way, i lived alone all weeks(not weekends) with my lil brother since i was 14 or 13, my mother was a single parent since i was 12 or so, father in the loonie bin since i was 15 and and moved out of home to go study at a bit over 15. So i know a thing or two about surviving on my own.

 

[Saggy]

Gotta love my parents for several reasons:

1) They got kids because they were selfish
-> getting kids hasn't been obligation for hundreds of years (in the Western World anyway) and selfish reason is the best in the sake of the kid.

2) They never tried to brainwash me
-> no obligation to go into church, football game or eat just vegetables etc.

3) They wanted me to live my own life, not the life they couldn't get.
-> they always asked my opinion about everything considering me in any way.

4) They never demanded anything from me
-> they got my full respect leading me to do anything for them.

Anyway, people tend to keep things "black and white" leaving no room for the "gray area" where the discussion happens - turning things upside down is easy way to get your point through and opens room for discussion (for example: your parents aint happy with what you are wearing -> wear what they ask you to wear and demand them to wear what you want them to wear -> if they freak out instead of starting a discussion = fuck them, they dont deserve your attention ;D).

 

[Congax]

Heh, I guess this is one of the rare occasions where I'll firmly disagree with Bugzy.

Dudley mate, Tohtori is right. Parents are quite allowed to tell you what to wear and what to do/not do. If they didn't like your shirt or whatever it was, then you ought to fucking change it to something more appropriate for the occasion.

I said "no, why?"

That sounds rather rude to me. Hell, I'l almost 19 and don't just give them a plain 'no'. You live in their house, you obey to their rules.

 

[Saggy]

That sounds rather rude to me. Hell, I'l almost 19 and don't just give them a plain 'no'. You live in their house, you obey to their rules.

So you can see yourself saying to your kid "I'm your father! You must respect my authority or leave!"? Personally I can't see myself in that situation and if I happen to find myself there, well, I think I dont deserve to be a father and my brains deserves a bullet.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think the problem with the people on the "kids have a right to do stuff" side are blinded by the fact that this isn't meant as an "You will ALWAYS do what i tell you to!".

It's just an "Could you maybe, once or twice a year, do what we ask without being such a teenager?"

 

[Saggy]

I think the problem with the people on the "kids have a right to do stuff" side are blinded by the fact that this isn't meant as an "You will ALWAYS do what i tell you to!".

It's just an "Could you maybe, once or twice a year, do what we ask without being such a teenager?"

You know, this can be turned the other way around too -> works for both "sides" = doesn't change anything in this topic ;D

 

[old.Tohtori]

You know, this can be turned the other way around too -> works for both "sides" = doesn't change anything in this topic ;D

Yeah i was just clearing the point i was making a bit.

I know that parents are sometimes unreasonable, but since it IS a both sided issue, it's up to either the adults or kids to act grown-up. And in this situation i think neither did.

 

[Congax]

So you can see yourself saying to your kid "I'm your father! You must respect my authority or leave!"? Personally I can't see myself in that situation and if I happen to find myself there, well, I think I dont deserve to be a father and my brains deserves a bullet.

Could you use any more bold?

Anyway, yes I can see myself saying that minus the 'or leave'. Come to think about it, my dad has actually used the 'or leave' quite a few times on me and I don't bother. I know he doesnt really want me to leave and nor do I want to leave.

I don't think that my father deserves a bullet for raising me in a respectful and proper manner.

 

[Saggy]

Could you use any more bold?

I could, but those were the words that meant that I'm talking about myself instead of talking in general and bold text hopefully saves me from flaming (in FH... probably not ).

Anyway, yes I can see myself saying that minus the 'or leave'. Come to think about it, my dad has actually used the 'or leave' quite a few times on me and I don't bother. I know he doesnt really want me to leave and nor do I want to leave.

Without the "or leave" the sentence losts its balls and the whole sentence dies if you just say it without meaning it. What are you left with? Strong words without meaning? Would it make any difference if your father would just say that he is disappointed instead of starting threats which he doesn't even mean?

I don't think that my father deserves a bullet for raising me in a respectful and proper manner.

Neither do I neither would my kid if I acted like your father - doesn't change how I would feel for being a father is such situation though Throwing meaningless threats isn't the key feature for raising a child in a respectful and proper manner - far from it but suppose it works too

 

[Everz]

hold the phone.. how come Maca is banned?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Without the "or leave" the sentence losts its balls and the whole sentence dies if you just say it without meaning it. What are you left with? Strong words without meaning? Would it make any difference if your father would just say that he is disappointed instead of starting threats which he doesn't even mean?

Actually the strongest thing to say is that "I'm not angry, just rather disappointed"

MAkes you feel a helluva lot worse.

 

[Congax]

Without the "or leave" the sentence losts its balls and the whole sentence dies if you just say it without meaning it. What are you left with? Strong words without meaning? Would it make any difference if your father would just say that he is disappointed instead of starting threats which he doesn't even mean?

Heh, not as much as before but if my father or mother raises their voices and tells me to respect him then I'd be sure to weigh my next words carefully. I guess this is just a matter of how one is raised or not, I was raised to respect them and their authority over me.


EDIT: Everz, read ze other threads.

 

[Saggy]

Actually the strongest thing to say is that "I'm not angry, just rather disappointed"

MAkes you feel a helluva lot worse.

Yeah, while quite unclearly written, that was my point - why throw meaningless threats when you could simply say how you feel? Gets the point through far more effectively and in a civil manner.

 

[Sharma]

First thread i've had to close here, all of you chill the fuck out, especially Bugz, you should know by now that penis waving only gets you laughed at.

Cut it out with the superiority complexes, jesus christ.