Pally PvE - Need input

Tosen

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I was kinda looking for that golden template which is ubah for PvE and spare time RvR. But being the PvE whore I am, I worked this one out (while being VERY drowsy).
I have everything but the ceremonial bracer, so it would be pretty cheap.
Input please :)
I have everything here x 2, coz I was planning on giving mum the same template on her armswoman (my blockbot) (no bitching about armswomen, they are alctualy kinda cute in their own wicked way).

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Config Report

Stats

Str: 94 Int: 0 Hits: 380
Con: 95 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 100 Cha: 0
Qui: 15 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 23 Energy: 0 Crush: 28
Cold: 2 Matter: 0 Thrust: 31 (3)
Heat: 25 (5) Spirit: 43 Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

11 Shield

3 Two Handed

3 Crush

11 Slash

3 Thrust

3 Polearm

Focus

Cap Increases

24 Dex

176 Hits

20 Str

21 Con

Other Bonuses

11 Melee Damage Bonus

20 AF Bonus

10 Melee Speed Bonus

4 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valour - Pally
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 18 Strength
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 2: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 2 Cold Resist - 99 uncut Icy Shielding
Utility: 59.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 2: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Slash Resist - 99 raw Watery Shielding
Utility: 63.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Hits - 99 flawed Blood Essence
Gem 2: 16 Dexterity - 99 polished Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 28 Strength - 99 perfect Fiery Essence
Utility: 55.00

Hands
Name: Maddening Scallars
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 22%
Gem 1: 2 Shield - 99 uncut Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 8 Slash - 99 precious Watery War Sigil
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 50.00

Right Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 8: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Left Hand
Name: Magma Infused Defender
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 5 Shield
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Cobber Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Feathered Wrap
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 11 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.00

Jewel
Name: Gem of Moirai
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 64 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 14.00

Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 28.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of Moirai
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 64 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Ring
Name: Band of Shadows
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 7 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Moirai
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 12 Strength
Effect 4: 8 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

Elitestoner

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such items wasted on pve! :(

however depends what u waht the template for. if its for farming offensively, as in farming with the pally and bot etc, then u wanna cap quickness for more dmg output, if its just a blockbot, then no need for str overcap etc, just get some block % from cata items instead
 

UndyingAngel

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such a waste of items.. for PvE but who am I to talk I got GoV to 33% due in pve :< QQ.. all you really need is 200hits cap, 26dex cap, and capped resits.. and this is pritty easy todo with out artifacts :) try getting some nice cata items as well.. with +blocking% etc :)
 

Ironfalcon

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Config Report

Stats

Str: 102 Int: 0 Hits: 364
Con: 102 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 98 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 10 Energy: 7 Crush: 26
Cold: 2 Matter: 5 (5) Thrust: 29 (2)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 25 Slash: 30 (3)

Skills

11 Shield

7 Two Handed

7 Parry

7 Crush

11 Slash

7 Thrust

7 Polearm

Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dex

200 Hits

25 Str

25 Con

Other Bonuses

16 AF Bonus

4 Melee Speed Bonus

THis is what I got with no artis in template except ceremonial bracer... and milky I used gov in my first pve template.. glad its still 100% when I took it out..
 

Darzil

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As people have been saying, for a PvE s/s Paladin, I'd work towards :

+10% block / +10% parry
+25 dex cap / +100 dex
+11 shield / parry
Melee/Heat resists
High con

I've not yet experimented with +%buff items, to gain more advantage from armour buff and chant, but that can give a lot more AF.

In my opinion, +10% damage doesn't make a lot of difference, as in PvE a paladin's duty is to soak/avoid damage, not to kill the enemy.

Darzil
 

Vladamir

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If thats a spare time rvr template, i want to see what a warlock can hit you for :p. Drop the FW imo and replace it with something else to squeeze a bit more utility into that template.
 

Tosen

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Vladamir said:
If thats a spare time rvr template, i want to see what a warlock can hit you for :p. Drop the FW imo and replace it with something else to squeeze a bit more utility into that template.
Coz FW has a crap uitility.... riiiiiiight-o!
 

Tosen

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Tell me what resists needs capped, and why please :)
That way I can actualy work out what to do, and I'll just craft myself a PvE suit :( Promissed mysefl I wouldn't become "one of those".
 

DavidH

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If you PL a lot in poc, then I'd definitely try to cap matter for less poison damage. Crush is probably the most important one. Afaik, most mobs use crush dmg.
 

Vladamir

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Tosen said:
Coz FW has a crap uitility.... riiiiiiight-o!
Lets see then shall we;

Cloak
Name: Feathered Wrap
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 11 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.00

Ok so 70 UV is nice. But you've got 43% spirit resist. It caps at 26%, remember? :eek:.

So that 11% is basically useless. Leaving you with 4x6% resists, giving you a utility of 48.

I'm not saying Fw isn't nice UV-wise, but in your template its a waste of space.
 

Huntingtons

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depending what ya wanna use it for. if you as mentioned want to use it mainy in pve and bits in rvr i dont see why wasting that many expensive items on pve (i dont understand wasting money on pve :p) as it wont have that much effect i guess. block bonus, high dex, high quick, high str, melee resis and a few toa bonuses. necro+ bb for pve is your mate tho isn't it tosen? :D

if you on the other hand want to activly rvr with the pala, in grp and solo, spend a fortune and make it :D (if it's good, im no expert on pala templates)
 

Tosen

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Yea yea... I'll just make a PvE template with 3g stuff, and ac drops... sod it!

How much is the cap on +% to block, from cata stuff?
And anyone know where the hell I get that cata stuff? :D
 

Arakasi01

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drop the hitpoints caps and put quickness, reactionary styles are your friends making dmg.
 

Darzil

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Personally, I'd start here, and then add +dex cap, and try to cap Dex, Con, Str, Qui, Hits, Weapon, Shield, Parry skills, and Crush, Slash, Thrust and Heat Resists for PvE, using RoGs and easy to get stuff, and probably no Arties. Would then be totally replaceable, but also able to tank very well in PvE.

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Config Report

Stats

    Str:    58    Int:    0    Hits:    80
    Con:    33    Pie:    0    Power:    0
    Dex:    30    Cha:    0
    Qui:    15    Emp:    0

Resists

    Body:    0    	Energy:    6    Crush:    3 (3)
    Cold:    5(5)    	Matter:    6    Thrust:    12
    Heat:    0    	Spirit:    0    Slash:    8(2)

Skills

    Slash:    5

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Str
5 Dex

Other Bonuses

10% Block
10% Parry
10% Reactionary Damage

Piece Listing

Right Hand
Name: Magma Infused Great Axe (for the Absorb proc
Level: 51  Quality: 100
DPS:       Bonus: 
Effect 1:  15 Strength
Effect 2:   5 Slash
Effect 3:   40 Hits
Effect 4:   8 Slash Resist
Effect 5:   5 Strength Cap Increase

Utility: 57.00

Left Hand
Name: Deflective Slimy Shield
Level: 51  Quality: 94
DPS:       Bonus: 
Effect 1:   5 Blocking
Effect 2:   6 Energy Resist
Effect 3:  15 Dexterity
Effect 4:  16 Strength

Utility: 32.67

Neck
Name: Pendant of Entrancing Reverie
Level: 51  Quality: 
Bonus:   
Effect 1:   5 Parry
Effect 2:   5 Reactionary Style Damage Bonus
Effect 3:   6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4:   6 Matter Resist
Effect 5:  18 Constitution
Effect 6:  12 Strength

Utility: 44.00

Belt
Name: Bone Belt of Blocking
Level: 51  Quality: 
Bonus:   
Effect 1:   5 Blocking
Effect 2:  40 Hits
Effect 3:   6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4:  15 Quickness
Effect 5:  15 Constitution

Utility: 42.00

Left Wrist
Name: Barbed Bone Bracer
Level: 51  Quality: 
Bonus:   
Effect 1:   5 Parry
Effect 2:   5 Reactionary Style Damage Bonus
Effect 3:   5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4:  15 Dexterity
Effect 5:  15 Strength

Utility: 20.00
Darzil
 

Arethir

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Imo you'd want to cap qui for PvE though. If you're trying to aggro a mob, hitting twice as fast using taunt style really helps. Or if pulling in AC or anywhere, you want to hit all the mobs before you pbaoe, qui helps. And for PvE i'd cap parry to. Screw resists even more imo if that's needed :p
 

Smellysox

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imo make a old si template for pve maybe with a sexy sword or sumin why waste artis when ure gona get the crap kicked out of u by those awful big mobx :<
 

old.windforce

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as people said before: I would try to get some +block% + parry% in since it is uber in PvE

I am not to sure bout Moirai's ring since it is a pretty crappy item, there a re better rings out there

Waisting good items on PvE is such BS. Good items are a joy, wther you like PvE or RvR
 

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