Paladins!!! there is hope!

[old.Kladen]

quoted from patch 1.53 notes

"Please note that this addresses only pure melee classes - we are next looking at some of the hybrid tank classes, especially the Paladin. There is a possibility that Paladins will end up with some of these same changes, but we're going to evaluate their chants first. "

give us smite!

 

[Sade]

At the very least they could give us a Holy Hand Grenade........

 

[old.Charonel]

problem with the holy hand grenade is that it has a 10 minuit casting time due to the priests making their rites and sermons

 

[Sharma]

does it? i thought u counted to 3, not 2.... not 4.... 5 is WAY OUT
:whip:

 

[Turel Haven]

~ At the very least they could give us a Holy Hand Grenade........ ~

Now THAT would be sweet...

 

[Krillin.]

Originally posted by old.Kladen
quoted from patch 1.53 notes

give us smite!

oh aye because after 1.52 smite rocks so much

 

[hrodelbert]

Cheer up Krill you'll always be welcome to sit in the corner to heal and buff me. There is life after smite.

 

[-jamza-]

Pallys are great as they are umm.. well my pallys pants untill i get sun and moon super dooper double back slash and burn @ 50 2H
then i get to wack da middy stun him den wack him and hit for a high bon

tis real gay tho

spec has to be

50 (2H)
46 (chants) - so i aint a gimped armsman
37(slash) some thing around there with mini dings
7(parry) BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - master of parry RA ! and bon on weps

i have most of my lvl 50 equipment now that takes me to

60 (2h)
38(slash)
48(chant)
13(parry)
if any one can help me - i tryed to look but anyone know of any armor that gives 2H bon fac 98+ i hear there are loves that give 2 2h 4 parry con and str - but i dont know what they are !


So far i have

the jwel from DF gives 2 2h - my wep sword 6 2h relalm rank 2 - 1 point and some thing else cant think right now - Anyone else know !! ? help meeeee

 

[Graknak]

Personally i like either this specc for Paladin:

2h: 50
Crush/Thrust or Slash: 40
Chants: 36
Parry: 20

or this specc:

Crush/Thrust or Slash: 48
Shield: 42
Chant: 36
Parry: 21

this excludes items, RA's and RR's

Why only 36 chants ya say? Well this way you have all second best chants xcept for Group Shield chant. With the 2h specc you'll do nice dmg and with the 1h specc less dmg then the 2h specc but good defence (altough thats useless against a zerg )

Maybe go for the Sword&Board style in PvM and at lvl 45 orso respecc all into the 2h specc. Just a thought

Greetz from Cuth, Grak and Aris

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Jamza, lower slash to 34 and get more parry, you wont event notice a change in damage, cos it will be just a few points max ;|

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

I would say... spec void magic all the way to 50!!

 

[old.Kladen]

get out of here you smelly hibbie.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

*kicks the doors to the Albion forums open wide to let in some Leprechauns.... and a Great Scourge...bwhaha*

 

[-jamza-]

Soulfly

36 - gives me 3rd dmg yes ? - something like that

but apperently parry sucks bad atm in rvr - so really its like im wasteing my points i think there are alot of items that can get parry high enouth just finding them i supose...

 

[Sharma]

seems every other alb class except a friar and paladin can long distance pull. kinda sucks when theres like a HUGE camp of agro mobs and the only one you can pull is right in the middle....really sucks...

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by sharma
seems every other alb class except a friar and paladin can long distance pull. kinda sucks when theres like a HUGE camp of agro mobs and the only one you can pull is right in the middle....really sucks...

Bait it with a sorceror. They are gimped anyway

 

[Sharma]

Originally posted by sickofit...


Bait it with a sorceror. They are gimped anyway

beware of body sorcs, they blow ya head off if u not carefull....

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Originally posted by -jamza-
Soulfly

36 - gives me 3rd dmg yes ? - something like that

but apperently parry sucks bad atm in rvr - so really its like im wasteing my points i think there are alot of items that can get parry high enouth just finding them i supose...

you get 2/3 out from slash damage adding table thing system pufffffffffffff with 34slash :]

it's 16~ / 34 / 50

you will get 100-125% damage variance, with 50, it is something like 125%-> I can't remember, check catacombs if you are interested.

 

[-jamza-]

aye cheer's

2/3 dmg some one told me lieeeeeeeeeeeees said is was like 36-7

ahh sod it i hit hard atm anyway hit arder @ nifty 50

cheer's soulfly - advice is always good

502H
34 s
46 chant

and ? parry
With items
62 (2H)
40 ( s )
48 (chants) <--- i see no point why adding bon to chants dose any thing any one tell me ?

Parry unknown - over 10?

 

[-jamza-]

Originally posted by -jamza-

48 (chants) <--- i see no point why adding bon to chants dose any thing any one tell me ?

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmzzz


what i means is ....

why and what dose adding bonus to chants give to or even help you with... dose it incress how much you can heal for what ?

 

[agraucred]

Originally posted by -jamza-
spec has to be

50 (2H)
46 (chants) - so i aint a gimped armsman
37(slash) some thing around there with mini dings
7(parry) BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - master of parry RA ! and bon on weps

im curious... why do paladins HAVE to spec that?! chants make little difference in RvR, only any good in PvE really.... so why spec it so high.... lower spec doesnt make you a gimped armsman, you can still use heal chant to take agro, rez, stack dmg chant over earth buffs..... do armsmen get that?

personally im speccing

50 2h
35 slash
34 parry
30 chants

i may respec if i experiment on catacombs and find something better.... but at the mo its serving me perfectly fine for what i want.... RvR, and being a pally makes me attractive to groups as we are agro magnets. my only doubts is that i seem to be running out of lvls and still seem like i have alot to spec...

 

[Turel Haven]

Personally I think I'll spec:

2h: 50
Slash (will likely respec to Thrust): 34
Chants: 38
Parry: 25
Shield: 9 (Left over points, also for if I ever need Engage)

I belive they're fixing Parry/Block/Evade in RvR in a later patch (1.53ish I think), so it may be worth keeping it high, and Chants in RvR are pretty naff (unless we get a smite or something...) so they don't really need to be much higher.

Just my 2cents.

 

[Turamber]

Agraucred, chants are useful in RvR ... but they do need some bonuses. The heal chant can be used to (1) compensate for DoT's; (2) twist and get double healing during 1v1 battles (beaten a few people that way, hi Death ) ; (3) When minstrel pets resist it auto heals the minstrel.

Damage chant is self explanatory, very useful in a tank group.

Group armour buff is also self explanatory and quite nice.

The resists chants are okay, if not brilliant. Certainly useful when some bloody mage has got you and your party targetted at distance and is casting at you.

The problem with speccing highly in shield (I can name 2 paladins with 50 shield) or in 2 handed is that our dexterity isn't one of our key stats. It remains pretty much the same as when we roll our character. Also our strength and constitutions are quite poor compared to other tanks.

So, to my mind, speccing your character with 30 chants is a bit daft. May as well role an armsman instead.

Hopefully this future patch will make some changes to the paladin chants. Would be nice to be able to heal more in RvR situations for definite, and maybe a half/full powered rez for max chants spec? A speed buff chant would be nice too, or am I just dreaming here...

I know I was most ashamed when a bloody Hibbie hero outtanked me on the relic raid the other day. The bugger even had time to put her weapon away and /dance before delivering the coup de grace

At the basic stats level I see NO reason for armsmen or hero's being able to take more damage than us. So I would like our constitutions to be increased again, in line with theirs.

One thing that is nice about playing a class that others see as being "gimped" is that we get strengthened patch after patch. Unlike some other classes we could mention.

 

[mirieth]

Originally posted by old.Kladen
quoted from patch 1.53 notes

"Please note that this addresses only pure melee classes - we are next looking at some of the hybrid tank classes, especially the Paladin. There is a possibility that Paladins will end up with some of these same changes, but we're going to evaluate their chants first. "

P'raps they'll just to hell with it and give you all the choice to undo your original mistake and become armsmen?

 

[Murcalumis]

That would make Paladins too over-powered. Rar!

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

+chants does nothing

50 twohanded
36 slash
46 chants
7 parry

lack of defence.

36 chants
29 parry

some more defence, but, you will "only" have the second best damage add.

 

[Yussef]

"Also our strength and constitutions are quite poor compared to other tanks."

Our consitution is our primary stat, its secondary for armsman and tertiary for mercs, making us the highest con wise.

I guess you mean hp tables ya. Hope they ditch piety and make it dex instead, any future changes to chants (e.g. variance in effects) come from +chants and +piety bonuses, although I doubt that

 

[-jamza-]

ok

u say about defence

You must remember parry is utter pants in rvr pve - it dose Not work like it should (i think most of u shall agree)

well apperently they are fixing think in 1.53 is it ?

ok well 1.52 is respec

so... i may as well do more dmg than the 2h pallys out there while i still parry the same (hey and why do i need to parry)

when i have master of parry RA - im still the same-

you guys said about pallys haveing low con str yes ?
why not tr the RA Con and Str level 4 if u can

you will have to have alot of RP if you want to ignore pain but its worth looking into

to End this

every one thinks there class is the best you all think u have the best class well your wrong there is no best char (there are advantages in haveing the char you picked)

personaly ill never dislike or class a pally as a gimp because its a skilled char and there are so many ways to beat you Enemy

(A paladin is nothin more than a group tank trying to go it alone in rvr your mad)

Being 2H ill be there guy wacking anything and dmging it as much as possable b4 i die being SS its going to take time yea ya may live but... by the time a SS killed 1 ill have killed 3

now that im almost 50 - i may start a SS pally- hell have both

who needs respec i know there aint going to be nothin wrong with my 2H pally appart from (ouch)

 

[old.Kladen]

Originally posted by -jamza-
ok
you guys said about pallys haveing low con str yes ?
why not tr the RA Con and Str level 4 if u can

you will have to have alot of RP if you want to ignore pain but its worth looking into

to End this

RA points dont grow on trees ya know.

im thinking of going thurst 1handed

46chants
44thurst
42sheild
wherever left parry

since thurst 1handed is 50%slash/50%dex i think ill just bump up my dex with RA

crush styles just suck ass, and the +15% on middie chain will make up for using 1handed.

for everyone respecing here is the patch 1.52 damage table :http://home.satx.rr.com/silverknight/damage-armor-table.htm

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

high aug str is not good, hell, we dont get that much damage from it, so I am leaving it to lvl 1.

aug con 2
toughness 2

. get those for a bunch of hps.

avoidance of magic 1 is a good one too.
aug dex 2 and mastery of parry or block 2. :O