vintervargen
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HE HE if you dont want to get zerged dont go to emain, HE HE
right?
right?
Outskilled hib m8s
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legar said:
bring more cloth casters I love 2 hitting em xD
Atleast ppl giv poor cgr something to read on this grand morning ..
anyway cant come as a surprise that ppl dosent run in 1-2 fgs anymore .. all the sorc chantur sm rerolling ppl need a meatshield .. why would u have to use only 8 ppl? that would just be to fotm .. anyway wtg alb !!11 keep up teh good work .. if u are camping a mg u deserve to get zerged.
try www.google.com and look for daoc maps .. maybe u'll be able to find .. another mg .. omg is there one ..maybe .. go find out !
anyway cant come as a surprise that ppl dosent run in 1-2 fgs anymore .. all the sorc chantur sm rerolling ppl need a meatshield .. why would u have to use only 8 ppl? that would just be to fotm .. anyway wtg alb !!11 keep up teh good work .. if u are camping a mg u deserve to get zerged.
try www.google.com and look for daoc maps .. maybe u'll be able to find .. another mg .. omg is there one ..maybe .. go find out !
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aussies rvr meights are also so skilled that they let him lead.
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Angara said:
you mean they dont
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Amadon said:poor qgr
dont be a sad elph amadon :/
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To be honest I think this whole topic of zerging has gotten
way out of hand and degenerates into finger pointing and
childish baiting.
The facts as I see them (emain btw) :
Hibs run with very high RR, high ML and ToA'd groups with
good class spread and utility.
Mids run with very high RR, high ML and ToA'd groups
good class spread and utility.
Hibs usually run with speed6 and have insta mezz
Mids usually run with speed6 and have insta mezz
Hibs (strongest caster realm) have all the Power Relics
Mids (strongest melee realm) have all the Strength Relics
Hibs very often run in 3fg+
Mids don't leave MTK unless in a zerg
Hibs and Mids often dont leave TK unless all their RA's are
up.
***
Albs often run in pickup groups
Albs often run with 1fg from ATK, despite info to tell
-them that there are lots of enemies nearby, and
-due to the 'zerg stigma' don't bother to wait for a
-second group to join, but instead head directly to
-a no-win situation and feed rps to the mids/hibs
Albs often run with 1 or no cleric
Albs more often than not run with no CC
Albs often run without speed5
Albs (apart from RvR guilds) rarely wait for RA's to
-come up before leaving ATK
Albs generally are mid level ML
Albs are often woefully poorly equipped ToA-wise
Albs have poor utility spread across classes - needing
-6 classes to give the RvR effects, hibs need 3, mids
-need 4 (giving room for redundancy or greater damage
-dealing)
Most of this is something we should be looking at intra-
realm to fix (ToA, ML's, communication, leadership, Relics
tactics etc). hibs are especially good at the comms
from what I can gather, three squads arriving from
different angles all at roughly the same time.
But tbh I find it highly amusing when the hibs and
mids say Albion is overpopulated, and all Albs do is zerg.
How often is AMG camped by 3fgh+ ? or 3fgm+ ? its
a damn sight more often than mmg being alb camped.
How are Albs mean to climb the rp ladder ? well they
(apart from the RvR guilds) very well go out in a pickup
group and hope to win a fight vs an RR8+ ML10 ToA'd
hib/mid group can they ? I've seen 1fgh take out 3fga
pickup groups with ease and low casualties. Well played
the hibs - but if they can take out 3fga - what hope
does your non-rvr guild player have in a fga pickup group?
None.
So the cycle will continue - skillfull but overpowered hibs
and mids farming albs like wheat, s******ing to themselves
as they shroom amg to buggery in their high RR, high ML
3fgh+ claiming all albs can do is zerg, and the (stupid) Albs
playing right into their hands and heading for amg with 1fg
at a time.
Personally - I don't like zergs much - all chaotic and laggy
but you guys are right (and though I have no love for GoL)
if we hear on the cg that there is more than 2fg hibs or mids
running in a pack, the albs should group together and zerg
you till you log (ref: Zoyster I believe). Its the only way Albs
will get anything but frustrated.
The whole insta mezz vs bolt range mezz thing has been done
to death, but my £0.02 is:
Fights RARELY start head on.
Albs don't have many Mind Sorcs (our problem not yours)
In the event of two realms engaging each other (far more
often than head to head, which clearly favours the hibs
and mids anyway - given Aussie's calculations)
If a Bard has assist train on him, he pops insta mezz and is
immediately safe. Further - his stinking luri buddies can run
in straight away and 2 or 3x PBAoE entire groups to death.
-- to add insult to injury he can pop ameliorating melodies
-- so his luri buddies are virtually unkillable for 20-30 secs
-- in which time they will have killed the albs anyway.
If a Pac Healer has assist train on him, he can insta mezz
and is immediately safe. Further - his stinking kobold buddies
can run in ....
If a Sorc has assist train on him, /release, wear neckie, go
afk for 5-10 mins, because if his group's CC is down, the
rest of his group will be joining him on the pad shortly.
way out of hand and degenerates into finger pointing and
childish baiting.
The facts as I see them (emain btw) :
Hibs run with very high RR, high ML and ToA'd groups with
good class spread and utility.
Mids run with very high RR, high ML and ToA'd groups
good class spread and utility.
Hibs usually run with speed6 and have insta mezz
Mids usually run with speed6 and have insta mezz
Hibs (strongest caster realm) have all the Power Relics
Mids (strongest melee realm) have all the Strength Relics
Hibs very often run in 3fg+
Mids don't leave MTK unless in a zerg
Hibs and Mids often dont leave TK unless all their RA's are
up.
***
Albs often run in pickup groups
Albs often run with 1fg from ATK, despite info to tell
-them that there are lots of enemies nearby, and
-due to the 'zerg stigma' don't bother to wait for a
-second group to join, but instead head directly to
-a no-win situation and feed rps to the mids/hibs
Albs often run with 1 or no cleric
Albs more often than not run with no CC
Albs often run without speed5
Albs (apart from RvR guilds) rarely wait for RA's to
-come up before leaving ATK
Albs generally are mid level ML
Albs are often woefully poorly equipped ToA-wise
Albs have poor utility spread across classes - needing
-6 classes to give the RvR effects, hibs need 3, mids
-need 4 (giving room for redundancy or greater damage
-dealing)
Most of this is something we should be looking at intra-
realm to fix (ToA, ML's, communication, leadership, Relics
tactics etc). hibs are especially good at the comms
from what I can gather, three squads arriving from
different angles all at roughly the same time.
But tbh I find it highly amusing when the hibs and
mids say Albion is overpopulated, and all Albs do is zerg.
How often is AMG camped by 3fgh+ ? or 3fgm+ ? its
a damn sight more often than mmg being alb camped.
How are Albs mean to climb the rp ladder ? well they
(apart from the RvR guilds) very well go out in a pickup
group and hope to win a fight vs an RR8+ ML10 ToA'd
hib/mid group can they ? I've seen 1fgh take out 3fga
pickup groups with ease and low casualties. Well played
the hibs - but if they can take out 3fga - what hope
does your non-rvr guild player have in a fga pickup group?
None.
So the cycle will continue - skillfull but overpowered hibs
and mids farming albs like wheat, s******ing to themselves
as they shroom amg to buggery in their high RR, high ML
3fgh+ claiming all albs can do is zerg, and the (stupid) Albs
playing right into their hands and heading for amg with 1fg
at a time.
Personally - I don't like zergs much - all chaotic and laggy
but you guys are right (and though I have no love for GoL)
if we hear on the cg that there is more than 2fg hibs or mids
running in a pack, the albs should group together and zerg
you till you log (ref: Zoyster I believe). Its the only way Albs
will get anything but frustrated.
The whole insta mezz vs bolt range mezz thing has been done
to death, but my £0.02 is:
Fights RARELY start head on.
Albs don't have many Mind Sorcs (our problem not yours)
In the event of two realms engaging each other (far more
often than head to head, which clearly favours the hibs
and mids anyway - given Aussie's calculations)
If a Bard has assist train on him, he pops insta mezz and is
immediately safe. Further - his stinking luri buddies can run
in straight away and 2 or 3x PBAoE entire groups to death.
-- to add insult to injury he can pop ameliorating melodies
-- so his luri buddies are virtually unkillable for 20-30 secs
-- in which time they will have killed the albs anyway.
If a Pac Healer has assist train on him, he can insta mezz
and is immediately safe. Further - his stinking kobold buddies
can run in ....
If a Sorc has assist train on him, /release, wear neckie, go
afk for 5-10 mins, because if his group's CC is down, the
rest of his group will be joining him on the pad shortly.
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