Order of defensive skill checks?

[Cirandi]

Hey peeps, I've been thinking again... I know it's a bad thing but hey, what can one do. :touch:

When i'm pve'ing with my reaver i tend to monitor my blocks/parrys pretty closely since i want to get those reactionarys off, and this has raised a question...

Even though my parry skill is pretty low (I'm the cookie-cutter slam/levi spec with just some leftovers into parry) i parry a lot.
A LOT!

More then i block in fact (for reasonings sake, say this is against normal single wielding mobs, no 2-handed or DW coming into play messing with block rates etc.) and this makes me wonder about the reasons behind this. Is parry chance checked before block chance? Say my roll with the d10's for parrying fail, will it then go on to check my block chance, and then evading?

It's not that important, i won't stop playing if i don't find out but it's pointless info and i know you all love that as much as i do.

 

[Jaem-]

When I tried a low shield spec on my scout, noticed I evaded alot more, guessed that it checked my shield 1st, then if it failed that, it checked my other defence, evade.

I've no prove tho, just thought it was strange, maybe an odd bit of luck getting evades instead of blocks.

 

[Darzil]

I think it's Evade, Parry, Block, Bladeturn. Not 100% about Evade, but the rest are right.

Against greys, my 50 shield paladin will parry more than he blocks, due to the parry check coming first. It's also one reason why some slashers prefer high shield and low parry to a more balanced spec, as they have a block reactionary, but no parry one.

Darzil

 

[IainC]

Q: What is the resolution order of attacks and blocks?

A: First, the game checks to see if the enemy would have even hit you. (Bladeturns, damage shields, etc all fall into this step.) Next, the game checks to see if you evaded the attack. If you don’t evade, the game checks to see if you parried the attack. If you don’t parry, you get a chance to block if you’re equipped to do so. After all that, the game tells you how much damage you took. This is how it works – the lead programmer just looked directly at the code to be absolutely certain. Short version – the checks are hit/miss, evade, parry, block.

From an old Grab Bag.

 

[Natswoo]

I think it's Evade, Parry, Block, Bladeturn. Not 100% about Evade, but the rest are right.

Against greys, my 50 shield paladin will parry more than he blocks, due to the parry check coming first. It's also one reason why some slashers prefer high shield and low parry to a more balanced spec, as they have a block reactionary, but no parry one.

Darzil

Afaik thats the order... but Darzil greys shouldn't even make you need to parry / block etc o0

 

[Cirandi]

MUAHAHAHA!!!

Double posting rocks, see post below!

 

[Cirandi]

Keke, that clears things up.

Thanks for your replies guys, and thanks for confirming it Requiel.

 

[Darzil]

Afaik thats the order... but Darzil greys shouldn't even make you need to parry / block etc o0

Not a paladin, then ?

Low on health - engage a grey (or indeed up to about orange - whatever is handy), twist heal chant (which works because you are in combat), and get health back fast.

Darzil

 

[Reno]

I'm afraid you went too far back Requiel.
If hit/miss was determined first against any player, very grey mobs would only miss and never get to the evade/parry or even the block check.
Since any lvl 50 tank will parry/block all attacks and almost never be missed, it follows that hit/miss follows last.
If you'd found a more recent Grab bag, you'd probably found a correction of that statement.

Danita

 

[eggy]

I'm afraid you went too far back Requiel.
If hit/miss was determined first against any player, very grey mobs would only miss and never get to the evade/parry or even the block check.
Since any lvl 50 tank will parry/block all attacks and almost never be missed, it follows that hit/miss follows last.
If you'd found a more recent Grab bag, you'd probably found a correction of that statement.

Danita

INC INC HANDBAGS

 

[Void959]

According to this post: http://daoc.catacombs.com/forum.cfm?ThreadKey=511&DefMessage=732328&forum=DAOCMainForum


"When someone attacks you, the order for determining your avoidance of attack (parry, block, etc.) is evade, parry, block, hit/miss, guard, intercept and bladeturn.

This order is VERY important because of the way DAoC checks each action. During a battle, if someone attacks you the program will go through each of these steps in order EVERY time."


Post is much more recent and is stickied on the main forum of the catacombs.com site, so it's probably reliable.