Only In Ireland...

[DaGaffer]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0122/breaking16.html

Basically some gobshite in Kerry is proposing a "special pass" that allows country bumpkins to drink drive. Just to be clear, the guy proposing it is a chancer from a family of chancers who run local politics down in Kerry (which is depressing in itself), and a pub landlord to boot (LOL), but the guy actually got the council to pass a motion suggesting this shit. The government will never let it happen, but the mentality behind it is just mind-boggling. If you ever get a chance have a listen to any member of the Healy-Rae family; if you can get past the accent, the sheer cheek and sense of entitlement is breathtaking.

 

[Job]

Seems fair to me, just restrict the car to 10mph and put the hazards on, they should allow everyone to drive home like that.

 

[Raven]

Don't be a retard for retards sake, Job.

 

[Gumbo]

Don't be a retard for retards sake, Job.

Can you switch that kind of thing off and on?

 

[Poag]

Don't be a retard for retards sake, Job.

 

[throdgrain]

I saw this on tv this morning, I didnt think it sounded that bad but the feller proposing it looked a right state and a bit drunk anyway, he wern't exactly selling the idea

 

[DaGaffer]

I saw this on tv this morning, I didnt think it sounded that bad but the feller proposing it looked a right state and a bit drunk anyway, he wern't exactly selling the idea

That's just his accent.

 

[throdgrain]

He was touting the problem of Excessive Irish Lonliness

 

[rynnor]

He was touting the problem of Excessive Irish Lonliness

The pass would only take you up to the legal limit in the UK you realise?

 

[DaGaffer]

The pass would only take you up to the legal limit in the UK you realise?

It doesn't matter. If you were the council or the Garda, and you issued one of these passes, and the slightly inebriated yokel subsequently wipes out a busload of American tourists; you're going to find yourself on the end of the world's most impressive lawsuit. Its a fucking stupid idea.

 

[Cerb]

Hahahahaha. Sometimes I really miss home.

 

[Punishment]

Let me sum up Irish rural politics

 

[mr.Blacky]

Wasn't that in Cork when an independent was joining the government in return for loads of roads in his district?

 

[old.Tohtori]

After a think about it, i don't see a problem with raising the legal limit in rural areas by a fraction.

Zoned legal limit is not a bad idea anyway, zero tolerance near schools, higher in deep dark forests of evildeathpool.

 

[Raven]

I actually think it should be zero tolerance on alcohol. Zero drink if you are going to drive.

 

[Scouse]

I actually think it should be zero tolerance on alcohol. Zero drink if you are going to drive.

Bollocks to that.

For a start - your reactions go up after the first pint. Secondly - it would prohibit me doing what I did last night - which was pick up a mate who I'd not seen in ages, drive to a good pub with real ales, have two halfs of different milds and then drive him home.

Perfectly safely.

 

[throdgrain]

I always have two pints when I go out on the bike, over a few hours, and leave the last 20% of the last pint. Dunno why, but I always do that

 

[Cemeterygates]

Let me sum up Irish rural politics

Haha

Gotta say, I quite like the Irish accent, especially from a cute girl sometimes struggle to follow what is being said though, but that seems to vary, much like with the Scots, Edinburgh accent I'm fine with, Glasgow on the other hand...

 

[Punishment]

I actually think it should be zero tolerance on alcohol. Zero drink if you are going to drive.

Unworkable, the drink drive laws are there not because people can't drive after two pints it's for the idiots with no self control. I often drive after a pint or sometimes 2 if spaced out after a couple of hours. Laws are like guidelines for dummies and if people were sensible wouldn't be needed, look at the UK implementation of speed limits years ago.

 

[TdC]

tbh I actually agree with Raven as a rule of personal choice I must add. I have become somewhat milder in recent times, but there used to be a time where I'd simply choose to not drive after having a drink.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Zero tolerance is a bit silly for various reasons:

Alchohol is present in a lot of mouthwashes
Have a sip of wine for taste
etc.

A low limit is fine, a zero limit will occasionally result in people who haven't been drinking to bring up positive results, we don't want that.

 

[rynnor]

Tbh alcohol is only one of many things that can cause accidents - young drivers having other young people in the car, people driving after consuming drugs - illegal legal or medicinal, loud car stereos, disruptive children, sat navs, tiredness, illness, poor eyesight, stupidity etc. etc.

Many of these are legal and not regarded as immoral yet kill lots of people - go figure.

 

[Mabs]

oh my god, my personal freedom, theyre making me wear a seatbelt

sound familiar ?

just cos u cant make it 100% safe doesnt mean that you shouldnt bother with increments

as to blood level, isnt one of the skandawegian countries using an "almost zero" policy that is about 10% of our limit ?

 

[throdgrain]

So does that make it right then?

 

[Zenith]

The sad truth is that what goes in Scandinavian countries is almost always right

 

[soze]

Law suites make this a non starter as has been said. The government have said that drinking impairs your ability to drive. So if they let you drive drunk hence with less ability if someone is killed by a drive that's now legal there will be compensation claims coming from every angle.

 

[TdC]

So does that make it right then?

does it make it wrong if you don't happen to agree?

 

[throdgrain]

That dont make no sense mate.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

So what you're saying is it makes sense. Congrats throd

 

[Scouse]

just cos u cant make it 100% safe doesnt mean that you shouldnt bother with increments

I have to say I agree with Throddy.

Just because there is more you can do doesn't mean that it should always be done.