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old.Da_TOAST

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First off, lets name the bad things bout it.

1) The most obvious, ya cant jump. Valve claim they made this change in an attempt to make the game MORE realistic. Okay, try this at home. Run, while holding a 5-pound weight in your hand, jump, run again, jump. Its quite easy, actually, and i dont need to slow down ONE BIT, unless i was doing this for hours!!!
This edit would be good for jumping off high buildings, etc, but just in a normal context this was fucking gay.

2) The deagle - it is no better than the glock any more. First off, the best thing about this gun was taken away. (the ability to shoot with accuracy while moving and jumping). What a pile of crap. Who the fuck needs to be crouching on the ground like a dog to shoot a fuckin pistol with accuracy? thats a bunch of BS.

The above are the two changes that pissed me off the most. Ok, now whats good bout 1.4? the only HALF-DECENT change was the fucking spec mode. Big woop! Well, i guess it is pretty good considering pple are gonna die alot faster and easier.

This is to you, valve: SUCK MY FUCKING COCK FOR RUINING THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD :upyours:
 
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old.Mr Crapini

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Toast if you visit the jolt forum there is a meaningless petition against 1.4, I say meaningless to appease the nobs here but if you like me feel that 1.4 is far from perfect mebe you should also sign it.
 
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throdgrain

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1.4 is excellent. You dont even slow down that much when you jump, unless you're jumping up and down like a kangaroo.
Play the fucking game please.
 
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Skyler

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Originally posted by Da_TOAST
First off, lets name the bad things bout it.

1) The most obvious, ya cant jump. Valve claim they made this change in an attempt to make the game MORE realistic. Okay, try this at home. Run, while holding a 5-pound weight in your hand, jump, run again, jump. Its quite easy, actually, and i dont need to slow down ONE BIT, unless i was doing this for hours!!!
This edit would be good for jumping off high buildings, etc, but just in a normal context this was fucking gay.

2) The deagle - it is no better than the glock any more. First off, the best thing about this gun was taken away. (the ability to shoot with accuracy while moving and jumping). What a pile of crap. Who the fuck needs to be crouching on the ground like a dog to shoot a fuckin pistol with accuracy? thats a bunch of BS.

The above are the two changes that pissed me off the most. Ok, now whats good bout 1.4? the only HALF-DECENT change was the fucking spec mode. Big woop! Well, i guess it is pretty good considering pple are gonna die alot faster and easier.

This is to you, valve: SUCK MY FUCKING COCK FOR RUINING THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD :upyours:
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Hmmm.

Well lets see, Valve didnt change the jumping to make the game more realistic, they did it to remove bunnyhopping for good, and to remove the constantly jumping/shooting nobbers. The jumping changes barely affects gameplay, I dont even notice it now, infact when I first played it I barely noticed it, and I used to jump tonnes in 1.3 on the way from spawn. You can still jump accross the trains on de_train in 1.4, you can still get up the boxes on italy nearly as fast. Wheres the problem ?

As for your whinging about the deagle, thats crap. The deagle is absolutely fine now except when jumping, and even then there is a chance of a perfect hit. You can strafe and hit with deagle 90% of the time, and if you stand still strafe, stop then shoot and so on, you hit perfectly. Crouching makes accuracy even better at long range, you dont have to crouch using the deagle in any way. I use it as I used to.

As for your comments about the spectator modes, they are excellent and have effectively put an end to aimbots for good. But I spose this isnt good enough for you ?

The gameplay has changed slightly, get used to it, it isnt much of a change. It is back to how it was in 1.1, more of a ducking game than a strafing game (1.3). In 1.1 people always ducked because of the hitbox bug, in 1.3 you didnt have to duck because you could spray and HS someone while strafing/jumping with little or no effort. In 1.4 now its back to ducking having the advantage, although strafing is far from crap.

It is harder now to rush for the T's on some maps, but not all. Most of the maps the T's can get close enough to the CT's to stop them getting into a proper position, but of course if you are playing MR12, you will probably be slower, thus it will be harder. This doesnt matter much as the defensive bias is effective to everyone, and everyone plays CT/T once. It just means that CT sides will most likely get the higher scores on games.

I think you should go and play CS1.4 now, well lets face it you probably allready are playing it a lot. Get used to it, and stop whinging, or if not, just leave the CS community. I can assure you that you will not be missed at all....

As for petitions, trust Jolt to make some stupid thing, just because they cant run/jump/spray anymore, I wish those kinda whinging nobbers would just leave the game. The game is better now, and there is little chance it will change, as in all previous versions. Nobbers moan loads, sign petitions, it doesnt get changed, they get used to it and stfu until the next release, when they whinge some more. Give it a rest ffs, I myself have whinged loads about one CS release (5.2 -> 6.0). I had better reason then to whinge than anyone has now. 5.2 to 6.0 was some of the biggest changes in CS history. For the first time in its history, running speed was slowed down, the models were all changed, new maps were added, many more other features, and of course the most dramatic one of all.... The new crosshair system. Now I can tell you, going from 5.2 xhairs to 6.0 xhairs was not easy for me, I got really annoyed at myself for not being able to kill very effectively in 6.0. But I got used to it and played on. You lot should all do the same, either play on and stfu, or leave.

ph34r my longeh postehs!
 
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S-Gray

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Originally posted by Da_TOAST
First off, lets name the bad things bout it.

1) The most obvious, ya cant jump. Valve claim they made this change in an attempt to make the game MORE realistic. Okay, try this at home. Run, while holding a 5-pound weight in your hand, jump, run again, jump. Its quite easy, actually, and i dont need to slow down ONE BIT, unless i was doing this for hours!!!
This edit would be good for jumping off high buildings, etc, but just in a normal context this was fucking gay.

2) The deagle - it is no better than the glock any more. First off, the best thing about this gun was taken away. (the ability to shoot with accuracy while moving and jumping). What a pile of crap. Who the fuck needs to be crouching on the ground like a dog to shoot a fuckin pistol with accuracy? thats a bunch of BS.

The above are the two changes that pissed me off the most. Ok, now whats good bout 1.4? the only HALF-DECENT change was the fucking spec mode. Big woop! Well, i guess it is pretty good considering pple are gonna die alot faster and easier.

This is to you, valve: SUCK MY FUCKING COCK FOR RUINING THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD :upyours:
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I found that the Glock has been made more powerful in 1.4, well, every fecker who has attacked me has killed me with it within just a few shots, the Deagle as Sky says is excellent, its very powerful is you have good aimming, and you can also "snipe" with pistols now which is quite funny.

There is nothing wrong with 1.4, nothing at all (Well serious stuff) and i feel a lot better now that the Jumping is fine.

It would be good if they got some mathematicians/physics in, to calculate the speed that you could travel at with designated weapons, but after all this is only a game, and you may think its OTT.
 
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e_chrono

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CS is bullshat

its too old, since valve took over its gotten shit.

I played between 5.5 and v1 but since then I'v completley stopped because its just got shit.

Every new version/upgrade there's more and more stupid changes in it which they claim to make it more realistic but as stated in the first post, thats all a load of bollocks.

It's time CS went...for good.
Theres many games better in every way out now.
CS is just old and crap.
 
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S-Gray

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Anyway not heard from Mr Toasty in a while......... looks like he's come back to haunt us
 
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throdgrain

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Originally posted by e_chrono
CS is bullshat

its too old, since valve took over its gotten shit.

I played between 5.5 and v1 but since then I'v completley stopped because its just got shit.

Every new version/upgrade there's more and more stupid changes in it which they claim to make it more realistic but as stated in the first post, thats all a load of bollocks.

It's time CS went...for good.
Theres many games better in every way out now.
CS is just old and crap.
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Tbh m8 i really didnt want to say this but..
if you aint even played it in this last year as you claim (even though I know that to be untrue) why are you offering your opinions on the subject ? For what purpose ? What is a better game than CS? Go on tell me one game ?
Ffs m8 please try to be constructive, or if not waste everyones time telling your opinions about a game you actually play, not one you dont.
 
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~Lazarus~

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e_chrono / Da_toast.

CS is still evolving. If you cant keep up with it then ship out....

But close the fucking door behind you.
 
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Rubber Bullets

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Originally posted by Da_TOAST
What a pile of crap. Who the fuck needs to be crouching on the ground like a dog to shoot a fuckin pistol with accuracy? thats a bunch of BS.
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TBH in real life pistols are pretty inaccurate, unless you are talking about match shooting, and then the shooters are extremely still. ANY weapon shot on the move is wildly inaccurate, and shooting most weapons whilst in midair would be practically impossible; except at very close range.

I don't think the makers of CS have ever really addressed this sufficiently. It is still possible to strafe with an AK and get headshots across maps. It is just a game though, and not worth getting worked up about.

I don't think that the anti jump thing has been implemented as well as it could have been, but I do agree with the need for it, and feel that it was the right thing to do.

I hated CS 1.3 when it came out, but I didn't winge about it I just played it and worked out a way to fit my game to it. That's pretty much what I am doing with CS 1.4.

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old.Kurt_Angle

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Yeeeehaaaa

Somebody who actually knows about pistols outside of a computer game:)


Having had the good fortune to have fired 9mm pistols, SA-80's in both standard config, and in lsw form, and gpmg's outside of a computer game, i know a thing about weapon balistics.


He's dead right when he says pistols are the worst of the bunch in terms of accuracy, your lucky if you can hit anything spot on 10 foot in front of you while standing with a sweat on. I know this iv'e been there, done it.


An lsw though you could drop (presume crouch) take aim and hold down the tigger for 30 rounds and they would all group within 2 feet at 100 meters.

In cs there's no way in hell that would ever happen, it's far more likely mr pistol from the other side of the map, say 100 meters would kill you first, without a single round hitting him:)
 
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Moön

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I fired a shotgun once irl, feckiun hurt me arm yet you dont get that in cs....
 
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Tom

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OMG not this cunt again.

I'm still waiting for your response to my post, you stupid bastard.
 
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Moön

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me!?

#a&i and we can disguss it anytime you like .
 
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old.D0LLySh33p

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Erm, well. I could flame, add comments, etc. but canna be arsed.

Hey Tommy, if you wanna play any matches for a&i.cs just go sign up for the praccies on irc m8y :)
 
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old.Psy2k

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Hello, I am a frag wh0re, I hate 1.4 because I have to work as a team to get a kill in, and I can't go around jumping like a Kangaroo!
 
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old.Kurt_Angle

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Originally posted by 1Moon
I fired a shotgun once irl, feckiun hurt me arm yet you dont get that in cs....
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Well one would think a fully trained counter terrorist would know just how to fire a shotgun so it didn't hurt his arm:p

Might hurt the mere mortal though who's never fired a weapon in his life, kinda like me when i fired one on the village fete when i was 13 years old:)

Firing rifles and machine guns never hurts my arms now though, it's something you get used to after a while/


One sure thing is though, no counter terrorist, or any soldier could fire a shotgun/pistol/whatever while jumping in the air constantly.

Nor are they trained to either:p


It's more a matter of what cs is trying to be, realistic, or computer game.

It's neither, so there will allways be arguements over it when valve bring in new things to enhance the gameplay, either to the extreme, or in the other dirrection.
 
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throdgrain

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A freind of mine had a desert eagle before all the guns were rounded up.
He never hit anything with it !
 
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Trem

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Originally posted by 1Moon
I fired a shotgun once irl, feckiun hurt me arm yet you dont get that in cs....
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I fired a shotgun and it bounced off me shoulder and hit me in the nose................which broke:(
 
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Rubber Bullets

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I did an afternoon of clay pigeon tuition a couple of years ago.

130 shots in 2 hours, my shoulder was black and blue the next day and ached for a week :)

Great fun though.

I also got to shoot 10 rounds from a Lee Enfield .303 when I was at school, brass but plate and all. That really did hurt, hell of a kick, we were only allowed to shoot them lying down.

Always wanted to try a pistol, but never got the chance. Guess I'd have to go to the states now.

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old.Da_TOAST

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yo

Originally posted by Mr Crapini
Toast if you visit the jolt forum there is a meaningless petition against 1.4, I say meaningless to appease the nobs here but if you like me feel that 1.4 is far from perfect mebe you should also sign it.
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Whats the URL for the petition? i can get a good 50 pple to sign it
 
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old.Da_TOAST

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Originally posted by tomjeffs


No not you moon, toast. Old news.
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WTF is this? which post u talkin about? Sorry, havent been in this forum for a while. I have, what do you call em, a LIFE
 
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S-Gray

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Originally posted by Da_TOAST


WTF is this? which post u talkin about? Sorry, havent been in this forum for a while. I have, what do you call em, a LIFE
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Jesus you shocked me now...

BTW if you click on *Search* on your name, it will list all the crap you've written in the past, so just look up and see what he's talkin about
 
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Trem

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Pfff makes me laugh, petition for gods sake, its just a game, if you don't like, don't play.I for one don't try something then dislike it then carry on doing it.On another note me mate says that the new tactical ops is just like CS now, so maybe give that a go, you may like it "hot bod"Toast(from your profile)
 
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Mr Bungle

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Lee Enfield .303's are legendary for their kick. :)

The thing which upsets me most is that the S H O T T E H ! (M3) seems to have been rendered utterly useless. The S C O U T E H ! is even weaker than it was - WTF ?

Sadly the 57 is still weak as hell, which is strange when you notice that the Real Life 57 is specifically designed for ripping big holes through armor & brick walls.

All in all, my favourite weapons have been trashed. It blows. CS is for the AK & M4 n00bies now. Feck em all.

On the plus side the SiG sniper rifle and the G3 can actually hit a dead elephant at 20yards now, although the G3 is still pathetically weak. :(
 
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