Once again:Population bonuses?

[TheBinarySurfer]

and time to put it out...

I've tried to explain why we're doing the things we're doing and why we can't change things with a simple swish of a magic wand but I'm being met by a wall of incomprehension and it seems that no one is even attempting to see things from a general view of DAoC EU and not DAoC UK.

Maybe I'm not explaining things clearly enough or maybe you just don't want to listen I don't know. All I know is that coming to FH stresses me out and gets me worked up, and I don't like getting worked up.

So, I've decided to stop reading this forum. The GMs can more than adequately handle any feedback from the community themselves. I love this game and I love working on it and will continue to do so but only within the scope of my job, nothing more. I'm sorry if this disappoints some people.

Eviross im not having a go but i have done my research on this and the UK marketing campaign seems non-existent. If ive missed it in some way fair enough tell me?

And yes some people are being unfair on you i agree, but you can understand their fustration at the lack of clear policy statements on the future of the UK servers surely?Not excusing, more explaining.

Edit: Clear was the wrong word to use i feel. Perhaps informative is a better one. Ive worked in PR, i know how you have to be cautious about what you say, however there is a fine line between cautious and being so cautious that the information is insubstantive...

 

[Shanaia]

Well done morons ... hope you're happy now

fyi the same thing that happened to VN boards will happen here ... they had loads of GM's and Dev guys reading and posting there but because of the endless flames Mythic simply stepped back as there was no point in it...

GOA tries ... and a couple of morons happily ruin it for the majority of people that are very happy with the GM's (and techy Erivoss) posting here.

 

[Belomar]

Really sorry to hear that, Erivoss. It's Tragedy of the Commons again, but on a virtual scale.

 

[Culanan]

I think the fairest way might be to reward players on an individual basis, in WoW if you haven't logged in for a week you get a reasonably fat bonus to XP which eventually wears off and then builds up again when resting/logged out at a city/inn.

Not saying it should be a ripoff from WoW, there are other things to take into account considering the different nature of the two games but it removes the need to consider total population.

Many new players aren't likely to choose a server because of big camp bonus (wtf is a camp bonus they might say), it's something either experienced players would do or if a friend told you where to play to lvl quickest.

I have to say that the free lvl thing is nice but 2 days for low pop and 7 for a high pop should be balanced out and a flat 7 days for everyone, the camp bonuses already make a big difference as it is.
It's a great system, shame that atm I feel DAOC is so much grind for small reward in the endgame, although being ganked endlessly by alliance in WoW is pretty freaking annoying too, /beg macro saves lives though

 

[Dakkath]

Well This isn't good...

This thread proves that those of us who play on the UK servers care passionately about our servers and the future of the game at least but if all we've suceeded in doing is driving away a useful reference and friend from the GOA community then we've all screwed up...

This thread was meant to be a frank and open discussion from a player perspective of how we felt things were going and trying to brain storm for ideas. Granted we didn't think of the EU picture as much as the UK one but that's only natural as that's where most of us who read these forums are...

I completely understand Erivoss's standpoint of frustration and why it's easier to avoid it than face what feels like a barrage of ignorance, repetition and whining from the player base BUT all that this will do is weaken the community as a whole...

Erivoss, you're not putting the fire out, just taking away one more firefighter by walking away...

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

I dont think he's reading it anymore.I invite any other goa rep to answer that question please?

 

[Krakatau]

I see Prydwen as a EU server, heck I'm a Swede

That's the thing you (GOA) need to remember, you cater for rest of EUROPE with 2 PvE servers, while the french & germans get at least 3 or more...

I do speak some spanish besides my english, but not german or french...My option is the 2 servers... Don't make it into UK vs EU pls

 

[Eroda]

Apologies if ive caused a problem, just wanted to discuss the situation. Hope i didn't come across badly as i have no bad feelings towards GM's, just not nice to see pryd in its current state.

 

[Brunore]

IMO this game is total shit from a UK gamers perspective, its virtually impossible to get hold of, not advertised ANYWHERE and the population of the UK servers is dropping daily.

All of these problems could be corrected if the game was advertised more in the uk, take WoW for example (not compairing the games, only marketing) its sold out EVERYWHERE.

I see adverts for it everywhere and people are buying new copies on ebay for £50+

Its madness, DAoC still offers something that no other MMORPG can offer, the PVP system and yet the oppertunity is wasted because of a 100% total lack of advertising.

If there were more players the population bonues probably woulnt be needed...

Do we see a pattern forming here...?

 

[Sugah]

I am slowly begining to think that the uk daoc community is dying. Prydwen is a joke at the moment and groups are really hard to come by. People are saying well hopefully catacombs will get this sorted but it'll only bring old players back that know about the game already. Goa really need to sort out the uk market as the uk suppliers don't even know when catacombs is coming out and there is no marketing at all.

 

[Ctuchik]

when you first played the game and struggled your way to say level 25, if you then found out that you got a 5% higher camp bonus on excalibur or a 14% faster free level would you really reroll?

well, as i first started to play about 4 days after release, getting to 25 was acually a achivement(sp?). so no i probably wouldent have. but with the current state of the game thats not really a issue. theres tons and tons of friendly guilds that would more then happy provide cash and armor/weapons and stuff for new players, and most probably alittle bit of PL on the side to.

cant realy compare the game as it was 4 years ago to as it is today

 

[Ctuchik]

That's the thing you (GOA) need to remember, you cater for rest of EUROPE with 2 PvE servers, while the french & germans get at least 3 or more...

so ur saying that germany and france isnt part of Europe??

 

[Raven]

so ur saying that germany and france isnt part of Europe??

no, he is saying France and germany have shit loads of servers, so can have chars on all 3 realms with one account, where as English speakers can only have 2.

anyway, i think its a bit late now to have a 3rd english server, there just isnt the population to support it anymore.

 

[Raven]

as for people rerolling to new servers, for many this simply isnt viable anymore, with the time it takes to get artifacts, master levels, money etc it would take months to get properly settled. Clustering really is the only way to go at the moment, it has many flaws, it wont balance populations, however it will increase the overall action in RVR, which is a good thing for all.
This is assuming when it comes to the point that they start clustering, we even need it, people are coming back to daoc now after the 30 day free sub on WoW, i expect a lot more to come back with catacombs. Hopefully some new players will start with cata too, though it would be a massive challenge for them to catch up, having said that a friend of mine started daoc with the toa release and got everything done in no time at all.

People get angry with Goa because sometimes it seems people are just not being listened to, they take their frustrations out on the GMs, i am guilty of this i know, but its a real shame it has come to erivos (a pioneer in GMs/players talking together imo) stopping reading the boards

 

[Rookiescot]

People get angry with Goa because sometimes it seems people are just not being listened to, they take their frustrations out on the GMs, i am guilty of this i know, but its a real shame it has come to erivos (a pioneer in GMs/players talking together imo) stopping reading the boards

If ever there was a statement that I wished forever to be linked with DAoC it would be this quote listed above.

We really do NOT get that bad a service from either GOA or MYTHIC.
I honestly feel these people do try their hardest to make OUR gaming experience the most fun they can.
Yes we can all point the finger at small problems we have had in DAoC but given the complexity of this game (and given how that complexity is multiplied by having to cater to 3 different languages) does GOA do a bad job?
Yes they could be quicker with patches, if you want to pay an extra £10 a month. This would mean they could employ more staff to convert from DAoC US to DAoC EUR.
Really are GOA that bad? Its VERY rare that the servers are down. That to me speaks volumes for the service we receive.

Would like to add this edit......
The people who are GM's or E+E's devote their OWN time to fixing the little gripes/ moans/ problems we have.
You think you have problems? .... Try playing your own game while trying to fix dozens of other peoples problems.
I've nerver done it ....... but I imagine its a right nightmare......think about it for youselves

 

[Aoln]

Eviross im not having a go but i have done my research on this and the UK marketing campaign seems non-existent. If ive missed it in some way fair enough tell me?

Wouldn't suprise me if they lied and that was just to keep people happy for a while

 

[UndyingAngel]

or you could try looking http://www.hip-europe.com/ is the company they are using for marketing

 

[Krakatau]

so ur saying that germany and france isnt part of Europe??

Don't pull it out of context please Was a continuation on this previous post I made:

...Still, even if we did it doesn't help the situation on all the other servers so why is Prydwen more important than the rest?

More important ?? If it goes on like this, 1 (Prydwen) of 2 (not counting Camlann) ENGLISH servers is soon gonna be dead

Almost giving up on Prydwen now...Started some levelling on Alb/Excal yesterday..
And not having the option to play a third realm on a third English server (Camlann is PvP and I don't count it) just sucks... As of now people leaving pryd for Avalon etc - guess this was not what you expected with 2 UK servers.....

Hope that clears it up some
Just wanted to get it through to Erivoss why I do think they should care a bit more for Prydwen than they do...
Heck, they even got me to change server

On another note:
Excal/Albion: Still a noob, but got 2 chars lvl 43 now + 3 crafters up and running
But I could need some cash transfer from Mid/Pryd to Alb/Excal to speed the crafting up.
Pls PM me here on FH if you can help to transfer some cash.