Old people on the road

Laddey

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Really pisses me off.

You only notice if you're a driver yourself.

They either do WAY under the speed limit, or they are genuinly shite drivers.

The other day, this silly old man was driving THE WRONG WAY AROUND A MAJOR ROUND ABOUT!!

Seriously though. They need an assesment or new test or something over the age of 60.


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I've been in the car when my Grandad was driving. That was a scary experience lol. Hes 68.
 

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I agree i was sat on a 60mph behind an old couple doing between 10 and 20 last week. Of of the Evo Police Interceptors pulled them over in the end, prolly because no one would over take with them there :)
 

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But will anything happen about it?


My grandad is 76, he bought a brand new Lexus soft top 6 months ago, it's done 80 miles.

This lexus is like 16 valve 2litre absolute animal. He cannot control it, he's a silly old c*nt on the road. Something needs doing about it but who do you go to, to put a request forward??
 

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The DVLA make everyone renew their driving licence at the age of 70. When you renew you have to answer medical questions, designed to judge whether you are able to safely drive still.
 

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Many young drivers are lacking experience AND think they´re the king of the road because they overestimate themselves (= they can´t drive for shit). Almost 60% of all car accidents in Germany are caused by young drivers. If I had the choice to drive in a car of a 18yo and a 68yo, I´d chose the latter.

I agree though, that there are drivers who are definitely too old and should not drive anymore.
 

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lol B2's grandpa was a menace (he was diabetic and so his mum and nanna told the doctor to get his DL revoked but he didn't!) he used to scrape all the cars down one side of the road and knock everyones wing mirrors off.

Saying this though there are idiotic drivers of all ages on the roads and I think it's unfair to ban someone just because of their age, I mean I know people who are under 50 and can't drive for toffee.
 

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being diabetic doesnt affect how you drive... unless you havent managed it and it made you blind
 

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Many young drivers are lacking experience AND think they´re the king of the road because they overestimate themselves (= they can´t drive for shit).

This.

Young drivers are way more dangerous more frequently than the occasional old coot causing problems. Agreed some old coots should not be out driving, but certainly not more than many of the pre-25 drivers I've seen roaring up the road and casually endangering other drivers.
 

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Yeah it's why we as a group never let Dard drive. You say go Odin's and you end up @ Snowdonia. At the roundabout in Agramon we always got in trouble and the amount of tree's he hit, my god!

On a more serious note. I once whas in the car with my grandpa when he did 50km on a road where 100km whas the limit. Scary stuff...
Driving too slow on a freeway/motorway (not sure whats what in English) is one of the most dangerous things you can do tbh.
 

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being diabetic doesnt affect how you drive... unless you havent managed it and it made you blind

But being diabetic and even with a -tiny- abnormality in your bloodwork can revoke your lisence.

You don't have to be blind, even with a average blood level of 9 you won't be able to get a drivers lisence and the doctor will report you to the police as a risk case.
 

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I agree with the young idiots driving like dicks.

When i was learning to drive, my instructor said that they are going to make you do 12 months driving lessons before you can put in for your test.

Dunno if he was talking crap or not!
 

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I agree with the young idiots driving like dicks.

When i was learning to drive, my instructor said that they are going to make you do 12 months driving lessons before you can put in for your test.

Dunno if he was talking crap or not!

If true that might be wallet ouchness, its already very expensive. Unless they mean you must have had lessons and a provisional for at least 12 months before allowing you to sit your test.

That would effectively push up the age of new drivers to 18 in the UK, even if you could start learning the moment you turned 17.
 

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I'm doing my test shortly, I've had 45 odd lessons, people usually take around 30. I feel like a much safer driver than I did at 30 lessons. I really think they should set more of a minimum standard, too many idiots on the road.
 

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Many young drivers are lacking experience AND think they´re the king of the road because they overestimate themselves (= they can´t drive for shit). Almost 60% of all car accidents in Germany are caused by young drivers. If I had the choice to drive in a car of a 18yo and a 68yo, I´d chose the latter.

I agree though, that there are drivers who are definitely too old and should not drive anymore.


qft :iagree:

I'm doing my test shortly, I've had 45 odd lessons, people usually take around 30. I feel like a much safer driver than I did at 30 lessons. I really think they should set more of a minimum standard, too many idiots on the road.

dont recall what its called, advanced driver or something, but you can do extra stuff beyond actual test, which both makes you a better driver, and if you get the thing, you can afaik get a reduction on car insurance ?
 

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dont recall what its called, advanced driver or something, but you can do extra stuff beyond actual test, which both makes you a better driver, and if you get the thing, you can afaik get a reduction on car insurance ?

Institute of Advanced Motorists....
 

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being diabetic doesnt affect how you drive... unless you havent managed it and it made you blind

well suspect it was B2's mum and nanna using it as an excuse because he used to nod off all the time and was a bloody dangerous driver so I think maybe they just tried t get the Doctor to say it was because of that and get the licence revoked.
 

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qft :iagree:



dont recall what its called, advanced driver or something, but you can do extra stuff beyond actual test, which both makes you a better driver...

I think some people believe this to be alcohol...


or Status Quo mix tapes Oo
 

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Pass Plus - It gives you Motorway and Night driving lessons ect.

I did about 10 of them after i passed as the Instructor said now i have passed he needed to teach me how to drive.
 

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You did 10 pass pluses?

Must have cost you a fortune.
 

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You did 10 pass pluses?

Must have cost you a fortune.

£150 2 Hours a Night for a week it was during a European Championship so basically drove the first half stopped for half time then drove for the second half.

He had a wife and 3 daughters at home so was glad of the escape :)
 

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Many young drivers are lacking experience AND think they´re the king of the road because they overestimate themselves (= they can´t drive for shit). Almost 60% of all car accidents in Germany are caused by young drivers. If I had the choice to drive in a car of a 18yo and a 68yo, I´d chose the latter.

I agree though, that there are drivers who are definitely too old and should not drive anymore.

I guess it's everywhere the same thing with young drivers (especially men) causing a lot of accidents - which is why the insurance is so freaking high. :(

Then again it's highly dependent on the individual. I'd rather drive with my brother than with my grandma, to be honest ;) But then again I'd rather drive with her than with some of the people who went to school with me :p

Where I live there is another quite interesting risk factor on the road: women with an Islamic veil. Can't see left and right, so let's just go ^^ I had this happen on more than just one occasion and it seriously makes me nervous now, when I encounter the same situation again.

But hey, the moment you say that in public, you're a racist, xenophobe and generally hate everything else.
 

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I don't think young drivers cause all of the accident themselves. The problem is they lack the experience to avoid the other retard drivers. I'm almost in an accident most days because of some idiot not looking in his mirror or whatever, but because I have the experience to see it unfolding before it happens, I can avoid it.
 

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I'm almost in an accident most days because of some idiot not looking in his mirror or whatever, but because I have the experience to see it unfolding before it happens, I can avoid it.

Hehe and people not indicating on roundabouts, my other pet hate.
 

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Pass Plus - It gives you Motorway and Night driving lessons ect.

I did about 10 of them after i passed as the Instructor said now i have passed he needed to teach me how to drive.

yes, there is a sad misunderstanding that because you have a liscence, you can actually drive. sadly thats not true. i always view it like school exams, its a means to an end for a bit of paper, doesnt give you all the skills you need, and most importantly, the -practise-. being able to read situations etc while your driving is just something you learn as you go along, assuming you live long enough
 

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I still hate people that stop at roundabouts like its a law the most. You have a nice clear view can see nothing is coming so you do not slow to a stop only to then notice the Idiot in front of you has stopped.
 

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I think young inexperienced drivers are as bad if not worse. Personally I think driving tests in general are far too easy. I don't think retaking your test every 5 years or so would do anyone any harm either.
 

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Here's something that happened to me last year. I was driving across a roundabout in Nuneaton on my way to the M6, there were two people waiting, side by side, to come onto the rounabout. Just before I got to them the guy nearest to me started to pull out. I whipped the wheel to the right. (Luckily there was no one on the outside of me at the time) The entire near-side of my car scraped along the front of this guy's car. The guy then drove off while I was looking for a safe place to stop my car. Now here's the kicker. The guy who hit me was about a hundred and seventy twelve and the guy furthest away was a boy racer.

I don't think young drivers cause all of the accident themselves. The problem is they lack the experience to avoid the other retard drivers. I'm almost in an accident most days because of some idiot not looking in his mirror or whatever, but because I have the experience to see it unfolding before it happens, I can avoid it.

Not always the case. No amount of experience makes any difference when you've got less than a second to react. I think the best way I've heard it said is this: A 25 year old with a pint in his system has faster reactions and better co-ordination than a teetotal 70 year old. If I hadn't reacted as fast as I did the near-side front of my car would've been smashed in.

I'm not saying it's ALL old people but there's certainly something there. I think it has to do with the times. When they passed their tests, if they even took one there were many fewer vehicles on the road. The amount of old people I've seen hunched over their steering wheels looking terrified beggars belief.

Also, and this isn't just old people but people in general who can't do the speed limit do my head in. I don't condone speeding but someone doing 25 in a 60 zone is far more dangerous than someone doing 70 or 80 in a 60 zone.

That's my biggest bug-bear but another one is people in the right turn lane at a rounabout going straight on. I've almost hit a fair few people who've done that. Also, I've been saying for a few years that past the age of 50 you should have to take a test every 5 years to prove you're still competent on the road. Times change and as I said before, the roads 20 years ago were a completely different animal than they are now.
 

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Not always the case. No amount of experience makes any difference when you've got less than a second to react. I think the best way I've heard it said is this: A 25 year old with a pint in his system has faster reactions and better co-ordination than a teetotal 70 year old. If I hadn't reacted as fast as I did the near-side front of my car would've been smashed in.

I'm talking about preventing a situation from starting instead of reacting to one.
 

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I'm talking about preventing a situation from starting instead of reacting to one.

Fair enough, but then I could argue that simply maintaining awareness of what's going on around you can take the place of experience.

I do see you're point though. I only passed my test a couple of years ago at the age of 25. However, that's due to lack of money and motivation. I'd been driving with someone else for almost 6 years on my provisional and there have been instances where that experience has led me to avoid trouble.
 

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