Ok you have seen FC being beaten

[gunner440]

u can see alithiels deformed left boob at 8min 38sec if u look close

 

[old.Zarko]

Faster target finding, better assisting (also means kill the target you are on, - saw fatality and konah on fame/bard in first fight - just to let him go again), a little more defensive thoughts (might be that you get sloppy with BoF and SoS) and you guys could really REALLY rock

 

[Sol-]

lol at being rooted and hitting a mezzed tank

 

[old.Zoyster]

Originally posted by AbPoon
I know FC are the 2nd best Alb grp on excal after BF so why do you show a vid that shows not even an ounce of teamwork?

Is this some kinda joke ?

 

[Jiggs]

'group' zoy, you know thats EIGHT people

 

[old.Zoyster]

jiggs, have u deleted and re-rolled a nme class ?

 

[jarl]

uhhhhh, that was realy crappy playing skillwise... And still albgrp won, and u say Albs are nerfed as realm...........

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by Jiggs
'group' zoy, you know thats EIGHT people

sorry had to

 

[hellige]

hahaha, such a comedy.

it can in no way be serious

 

[parlain]

Originally posted by Novamir
More love for sorcs! look after ur fishface!

I'm on enforced vacation

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by old.Zoyster
jiggs, have u deleted and re-rolled a nme class ?

if u call clerics an enemy o_o

 

[alithiel50]

Originally posted by Pin
Just curious why you can't see if someone is running end chant in the SI client?

1) They get green rings around them
2) You get the pulsing end chant icon
3) You have nice 'takes a second wind' spam

1. I only use SI on my slower second PC, with effects off, so I wouldn't have noticed if they'd put them back in after removing them when SI fist went live.
2. I'm fighting, and panning around to see what's going on around me. I don't tend to look at the several rows of icons to see if the end chant one is there.
3. Spell pulse messages are turned off.

Originally posted by gunner440
u can see alithiels deformed left boob at 8min 38sec if u look close

I don't have a deformed left boob, ffs!

You're just jealous because I said Asha could touch any time she liked, but I'd chop your hands off if you tried!

Originally posted by Jiggs
if u call clerics an enemy o_o

If they're full spec in smite!... :uhoh:

 

[Ilur_oom]

Originally posted by Novamir
sloppy by FC.. some reasons...

poor hotrats lies dead for two whole fights - your pala should be /stick and guard for any immediate melees, and ur cleric should be ready with 100% rez.. it really isnt quite so hard to keep mages alive you know. (except vs savages)

Well, try and be a cleric alone in a alb grp and u'll see against pbaoe or even melee grps the time you take to rezz a grp member most of times kill the rest of your grp you can only rezz when it's safe and if u notice on the videos... when was safe i was allways lop... well i let my guild mates/ grp members judge my job...

take care

 

[splash0r]

Tbh if you are giong to make a movie . MAKE SURE THERE IS SOMETHING TO WATCH .......

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by [FC]Ilur
Well, try and be a cleric alone in a alb grp and u'll see against pbaoe or even melee grps the time you take to rezz a grp member most of times kill the rest of your grp you can only rezz when it's safe and if u notice on the videos... when was safe i was allways lop... well i let my guild mates/ grp members judge my job...

take care

my last fight against FC i got casted (30%) rez 3 times.

*shrug*


but its all due to our 1337 PR aint it tren

 

[hotrat]

Man you guys are picky
Do I need to remind you we only had 1 cleric, we did still kill vgn even if they did have a few low RR in there they still had some high RR's and used good tactics.

In the first fight, like Ali said 2 of the vgn group had seperated (prolly chasing us) they used ae str/con and we turned. Now if we had 2 savages in the group no doubt we would have killed the luri and the bard. You did notice that although the luri was our first target the bard purged, so hitting him as well was a good idea, plus a bard is very good at interupting me with insta dd/amnesia when I am trying to ae interupt a pbae circle.

So the luri dies, the bard is still alive but look fatal and konah both change target.

Then after killing vgn we get immediate mid adds, and you will notice our cleric is very low on power, hence when the hibs add as well I die quite fast.

Maybe the assisting isn't perfect either, but from a tanks perspective its easy to tell if the assist is bad. From a Shamans perspective its much harder to tell what the tanks are doing, for example the JH vs FC video:

First fight, only Poon and mumin hitting me, Sushii not assisting.
Looks like the shaman then breaks a mezz on strondor? Well Strondor wasn't casting and with Alithiel hitting the Shaman the last thing I would do is cast a DoT on a theurgist. He then runs up to strondor and uses his cheap insta pbae disease.
Nobody assist Sushii who is hitting the minstrel (the minstrel still dies very fast with just ONE savage attacking it).

Second fight good assisting from both sides, look how long FC tanks are hitting Exioce, compare it to how long it takes JH savages to kill me and the clerics and Strondor.

Fight vs the alb zerg, right away i see mumin hitting McPain a TANK, 2 secs later i see that tank dead with just ONE savage hitting it. Now you moan at us for poor assist and target selection, what can be worse that hitting a tank first by yourself !!!! But its ok he is a savage and kills him in under 5 seconds anyway.

Last fight, I can tell you that sushii chased me solo towards apk, meanwhile mumin is busy attacking Strondor. Next you see mumin and sushii on our minstrel, poon is hitting strondor. Don't say its becuase you were interupting, a skald can do that with one dd, a healer can do that with 1 insta haste debuff, a shaman can do that with 1 fart.


Anyway back to our video I think it makes a nice change to show a video where we lose a few members but still win the fight, unlike JH who just wtfpwn everything with their overpowered savages and barely take a scratch.

 

[Definitely]

Been looking alot of videos lately, nothing to say that hasn't been said yet here, so ... cool movie

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by hotrat



First fight, only Poon and mumin hitting me, Sushii not assisting.
Looks like the shaman then breaks a mezz on strondor? Well Strondor wasn't casting and with Alithiel hitting the Shaman the last thing I would do is cast a DoT on a theurgist. He then runs up to strondor and uses his cheap insta pbae disease.
Nobody assist Sushii who is hitting the minstrel (the minstrel still dies very fast with just ONE savage attacking it).

due to the speed of savages able to kill someone, it would be kinda overkill to have sushii + the skald assisting also, where as they could be taking other support


so it makes more sence for sushii to instakill your minstrel than waste time chasing poons target aswell

 

[hotrat]

due to the speed of savages able to kill someone, it would be kinda overkill to have sushii + the skald assisting also, where as they could be taking other support


so it makes more sence for sushii to instakill your minstrel than waste time chasing poons target aswell

Haha so you just admitted mids don't need to assist because savage can kill any target instantly anyway

[chant]Easy Mode{/chant]

 

[Ilur_oom]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
so it makes more sence for sushii to instakill your minstrel than waste time chasing poons target aswell

u said it... now nerf savages

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by hotrat
Haha so you just admitted mids don't need to assist because savage can kill any target instantly anyway

[chant]Easy Mode{/chant]

he didn't 'just admit' it. Carlos has said so dozens of times before. Just because he plays mid doesn't automatically mean he's in denial.

 

[Treniel-]

my last fight against FC i got casted (30%) rez 3 times.

*shrug*


but its all due to our 1337 PR aint it tren

you had 3 healers and a shamy vs one cleric? last night we fought VGN with Noretn and Glema (i think) in grp managed to res hotrats twice and me + another tnak in the middle of the battle...clerics actually require iccle skill unlike healers

and you were PR'd at least once

fyi i was the paladin (if its the same vid i thinking about) maramar lent it me for dragon raid...and yes hes only got yellow end so even when its on end = veeeeeeeeeeery slow was geting yelled at continously for it when it was on our assist is normally pretty good i mean last night we dropped all of JH support some twice to be killed by overpowered fecking savages a fight which tbh we should of won hands down with any other class in place of savage

afaik we won most of the fights that night so i duno wtf u complaining about

 

[fatalitys]

Originally posted by alme
Nice vid, but lol fatal if u always play like that i suggest u go back to ure mage..

lol i dont always plays like that... and yeh i rather wanna play my mage but wiz usuless atm..

 

[vintervargen]

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[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by hotrat
Haha so you just admitted mids don't need to assist because savage can kill any target instantly anyway

[chant]Easy Mode{/chant]

1) you think idont fucking know savages are overpowered?

never once did i deny it (if i did, it was only to wuren in irc)

2) i dont play a savage so....... chant easy mode as much as u like ;P

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Treniel-
you had 3 healers and a shamy vs one cleric? last night we fought VGN with Noretn and Glema (i think) in grp managed to res hotrats twice and me + another tnak in the middle of the battle...clerics actually require iccle skill unlike healers

and you were PR'd at least once

fyi i was the paladin (if its the same vid i thinking about) maramar lent it me for dragon raid...and yes hes only got yellow end so even when its on end = veeeeeeeeeeery slow was geting yelled at continously for it when it was on our assist is normally pretty good i mean last night we dropped all of JH support some twice to be killed by overpowered fecking savages a fight which tbh we should of won hands down with any other class in place of savage

afaik we won most of the fights that night so i duno wtf u complaining about

as i said before, you can ask the LA grp for confirmation...we had just fought them, and used all 3 PRs in that fight (as well as purge and mcl)

the only RAs that where not used is purge for our tanks. Our shaman didn't have ichor before u bring that up.

so, PR was down, i got casted, 30% res from our shaman, and a casted 50% rez from morphene (mend healer)

our tanks where kinag (zerker), woodrow (zerker) and gjoras (savage) so not rlly a pure ubah fotm overpowered savage grp.



but sure, its our overpowered savages and PR/Ichor RAs.

 

[hotrat]

he didn't 'just admit' it. Carlos has said so dozens of times before. Just because he plays mid doesn't automatically mean he's in denial.

I have never heard a mid say they don't need to assist, I have heard them say savages are overpowered, but looking at all the people here saying how our assist was poor then Carlos saying that mids don't even need to and thats why they don't in the JH video......

1) you think idont fucking know savages are overpowered?

never once did i deny it (if i did, it was only to wuren in irc)

I never said you did deny it.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by hotrat
I have never heard a mid say they don't need to assist, I have heard them say savages are overpowered, but looking at all the people here saying how our assist was poor then Carlos saying that mids don't even need to and thats why they don't in the JH video......

I never said you did deny it.

no,

what i mean is, its easier in mid to have 2 MAs (savage + zerk, and savage + skald) as savage dmg output is significantly higher

it makes taking down key classes faster.

they still need to assist, but not to the same extent

 

[fatalitys]

Originally posted by vintervargen
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i didnt use /stick cous i dont like it..............

 

[Belomar]

You may not like it, but I wonder how many swings you miss because you don't use it?