Ok, who f*Cked up? There's a hole in my universe!

old.Tohtori

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Yeah a finnish scientist compared the thing to a (suprise) foam of a beerpint :D

Like the universe is those tiny bubbles, and then there's this f*ckall big bubble in the middle and you go "what?"

About that interview though, i've always wondered, how can universe be random when there's only one universe? If there's only one example of something forming, wouldn't it be as safe to say it isn't random at all and next time it would form the same way :D
 

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I bet the giant we talked about earlier heard its call and left home :p
 

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Yeah a finnish scientist compared the thing to a (suprise) foam of a beerpint :D

Like the universe is those tiny bubbles, and then there's this f*ckall big bubble in the middle and you go "what?"

About that interview though, i've always wondered, how can universe be random when there's only one universe? If there's only one example of something forming, wouldn't it be as safe to say it isn't random at all and next time it would form the same way :D

hence the: billions and billions of paralell universes theory
 

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Maybe more of a philosophy since theres really no way to test it ;)

I read somewhere they were creating a device that opened up a new dimension. Or no.. it created a new universe... or something. Anyone remember this? I remember reading it and thinking "wtf?" it sounded too science-fiction to be true, but they were actually half way through building it or something. Link would be lovely.
 

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That's why my thing went! Ffs.. I was looking for what :( I made a big hole and it vanished.

I'd honestly love to know what would be the other side of it, and the same distance/heading to earth coming out of the end.

Don't you find it funny how the JUST found the big hole? I mean... 100bn light years and it's just been found?

"Oh, big hole.. Ignore it... WTF? BIG HOLE?!" (Heh, sounds like a convo I had recently xD)
 

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WTF? BIG HOLE?!" (Heh, sounds like a convo I had recently xD)

with Vlad no doubt. holy shit a gay joke. check me out xD


on topic: i was just discussing (read: drunk talk) with my mate about existence and the universe and all sorts of crazy shit. I'd really like some answers before i die :/
 

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with Vlad no doubt. holy shit a gay joke. check me out xD


on topic: i was just discussing (read: drunk talk) with my mate about existence and the universe and all sorts of crazy shit. I'd really like some answers before i die :/

42!
 

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There's loads of things I'd love to find out before I hit the dirt really. Would be nice for some of them to be answered (Mainly science based one) but I doubt they will be.


That's a load of crap, the answer to everything is one of these:

127.0.0.1
10.0.0.2

NOT 42.
 

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That's why my thing went! Ffs.. I was looking for what :( I made a big hole and it vanished.

I'd honestly love to know what would be the other side of it, and the same distance/heading to earth coming out of the end.

Don't you find it funny how the JUST found the big hole? I mean... 100bn light years and it's just been found?

"Oh, big hole.. Ignore it... WTF? BIG HOLE?!" (Heh, sounds like a convo I had recently xD)

I'd think its pretty hard to find nothingness and then confirm the size of the nothingness.

As you'd send an electromagnetic signal into space and await for the echo after it hits something. So they must have sampled the entire 100bn lyr hole.
 

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its prolly down to what one the geezers said... prolly was an area of space but over time other nearby masses have dragged the matter from there.. and then in turn that itself been pulled to somewhere else.

tbh there's nothing alarming about it, would have thought any astronomer worth his salt woulda expected to see things like this even on this scale.

its just like the butterfly effect on the weather but on a bigger scale.
 

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A billion light years across...!?

"billion" and "light years" in the same sentence :eek7:

1 billion is a difficult number for me to imagine properly, 1 million I can deal with, but a billion? its just a stupidly big number! I know, there are bigger numbers, but still, a billion is the lowest of them that makes my mind boggle.

A billion light years, 1 light year is 5,879,000,000,000 miles. How many f'cking zero's would 1 billion light years expressed as miles be?! it takes 10 minutes to jog a mile at a leisurely pace, how many minutes would it take to 'leisurely' jog 1 billion light years?! how many steps? how many lifetimes? seconds? a second takes the same amount of time as when you say "one and" slowly, so imagine the sheer length of time being expressed when you say the world ONE BILLION LIGHT YEARS.

Imagine what kind of explosive force would be required to clear a space that big :eek6:

yea, i know, an 'explosion' in the normal sense of the word would leave debris and other matter, but still, imagine? :eek6:

Dealing with things of this size makes my mind race :mad:
 

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This ties in with my own personal belief of how our universe was created.

First up, I believe there are trillions of universes. Our universe is but one.

I believe that before the Big Bang, there was nothing. A void. No matter, no stars, no planets, no molecules, no dark matter, no wormholes, no black holes. Nothing.

When the BB hapenned, then all matter as we know it populated a portion of the void, and it is this explosion of matter - a 15 billion light year explosion - which we call our universe. Its everything we can detect. Beyond all matter, the Void continues.

The cosmos is, therefore, according to my theory, an infinite expanse of nothingness punctuated by trillions of universes.

I believe that each universe is / was / will be created by a Big Bang.

One Big Bang acts as a catalyst to create another Big Bang, which gets around the paradox of creating something out of nothing.

How did the original - the first Big Bang occur then ? I don't know. Either a supreme being created it, or the laws of physics as we know it simply do not apply, and somehow, it is / was / still is possible to create matter out of nothingness. If we go down the route of a supreme being - God - some alien being of vast unimaginable intellect and power, how did they exist ? Who created them ? And so on ad infinitum. At the end of the day, there is either a God-like entity which has always existed and who created everything, or matter simply created out of nothingness.

I am completely comfortable with the idea of an infinite void. Only humans, with their limited lifespan, whose life is defined by boundaries and limits cannot envisage, accept, comprehend, or understand the concept of infinite space. We should be, if you think about it. Take the number one. Keep adding one to it.There's no end to the sum. It goes on for ever. So infinity does exist. Why not in the "physical" world then ?

There may be somewhere out there in the Void - some unimaginably insane distance away from us - entire nurseries of Big Bags - like Stellar Nurseries which contain billions and billions of stars - containing trillions of burgeoning universes. Who knows ?

To be honest, its science fiction. We'll never know the bigger picture. All we can do is try to understand as much about what we can detect.

Even if we create light-speed space craft in 2000 years time, we'd still never reach the "edge" of our universe. Not unless man can somehow invent cryogenics technology which is capable of preserving a human being for 15 billion years !
 

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Ability to travle Faster Than Light will be around some time soon.. Will see what happens with satelites which can move that fast and would be thrown into it. (We won't be living) but somebody will find out.
 

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you cant travel faster than light since your mass will be infinite then, no way to get around that, unless you manage to travel via a wormhole that is like a shortcut between 2 places in space. That in theory would be travel in time though.
 

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According to Einstein physics, faster than light speed travel is impossible.

But...there are probably areas out there / regions of bizarre phenomena whereby the laws of physics as we know them don't apply.

Eg. Black hole singularity. Einstein physics breaks down at the singularity as thats a tiny region of infinite mass. So infinite mass is possible

**scratches head**

I need a coffee
 

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Wouldn't say anything is impossible to be honest..

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In one experiment, led by Anedio Ranfagni, of the Italian National Research Council, microwaves were sent through a narrow, ring-shaped opening onto a large mirror, sent the waves back to and behind the source. The arrival times of these pulses showed that they travelled at speeds 5% above c.
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Isn't much.. But who knows, maybe one day.. :( Would be nice.

(c = speed of light)
 

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Its theoretically impossible to travel faster than light, it used to be theoretically impossible to travel faster than sound...and before that to travel faster than 20 miles an hour or whatever.
 

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Yeah, faster then light travel IN THEORY is impossible, and that also is only applied to vacuums, since you have Cerenkov radiation. Which only gets emitted when things move faster then light. Basically.
 

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