Ok my guild farmed 1.81 scrolls. Read :]

Sye

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least people cant blame arti's now in RvR as evertone will be able to get them!
 

Belgerath

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Melachi said:
Kildare, im a culshie in denial!

I think total Irish population of players is about 10 people :D

I can Name you at least 10 from Northern Ireland i know in rl
 

Kaun_IA

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lol... its funy to see that ppl acctually regard artis as a big achivement (ok EC, CS, JS are achivements)...

artis a easy to get atm too. IMO the hard part are the morai belts, zahurs bracers, and such stuff...rare drops that will take 10 years to farm... now thats and achivemnt


PS.... im no farmboi. but i dont have a hard time getting eny arti that i need
 

Nix

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Kaun_IA said:
lol... its funy to see that ppl acctually regard artis as a big achivement (ok EC, CS, JS are achivements)...

EC & Jacina's are hard for most/many people. I had a plan to attend every EC raid there was a couple of months ago. Had time to join 1, due to irl stuff going ahead of DAoC. Guess if I got the artifact? :)
 

Penlid

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Aye it's too easy, was farming with guild last night 3 LS3/3 in 10 mins, 1 while we were moving with agro and when we got to farming spot 2 dropped in same pull.

Farming ML 7 tonight and doing ML 8 grp steps, soo maybe finish my skald temp :D
 

Vandar

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True story on 1.78 .....

Me and a m8 needed 2 * LS3 and 1 * MT3. So we started farming in Aerus and Volc.
We had an alt grouped, he started on level 29. He's level 44 now and we've only had 1 LS3 in that time :(

Seriously bad luck, roll on 1.81 soon as poss!!!
 

Nix

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Vandar said:
True story on 1.78 .....

Me and a m8 needed 2 * LS3 and 1 * MT3. So we started farming in Aerus and Volc.
We had an alt grouped, he started on level 29. He's level 44 now and we've only had 1 LS3 in that time :(

Seriously bad luck, roll on 1.81 soon as poss!!!


That's not bad luck, the rarest scrolls really are RARE on this patch...

I almost miss the old scroll drop system :(
 

Chimaira

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getting about 30+ Battler 3o3 at siam he camp last night you didnt care if you deleted em. I dropped some 3o3 rar scrolls on ground by mistake or just to get more inventory space xD
 

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I agree with Nix, (I'm not a farmer either btw) where is the achievement of finding your scrolls? I see the bonus of RvR being better, people being able to compete much quicker but still it does seem a hollow victory when things are too easy. Could this happen?:

1) People start leaving LS 3/3's on the floor cos they have 10 on their CM's

2) Crafters become valued again, as lots of people will be completing temps quicker, in turn people may have more toons as 50'ing them and getting all art's/scrolls is easier and hence more appealing - means more temps ofc and more for the SC'rs etc.

Just thoughts ofc ;)
 

Eeben

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Nice patch but just abit to late imo ;) an whats the point haveing scrolls when they drop like this?:eek6:
 

enkor

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Argyle_Avendale said:
Crap patch, its becoming way too easy now, no challenge left anymore.

was farming scrolls a "challenge"? :eek:
 

Shike

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Argyle_Avendale said:
Crap patch, its becoming way too easy now, no challenge left anymore.

leveling artis to lvl10 isnt a challenge
zerging down MLs isnt a challenge
farming scrolls isnt a challenge
rolling for artifacts after you did it with some people isnt a challenge
buying artis and scrolls off CMs isnt a challenge
camping artifacts isnt challenging

Dude, what is this challenge you speak of? I've read the patchnotes over and over again, and tbh, I cant see anything "challenging" beeing changed at all.
 

Kalidur

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well with DR comming out what would you expect

toon to 50, ML's, Arti's, Champions levels, Champion weapons, Darkspire, mounts.... something had to give.

Arti's were a few nothches higher on the level of hardness to acheive in comparrison to the rest, they're just being watered down to fit in with everything else.

Make everything else easily acheivable and just let people concentrate on getting there RR up.


Maybe the next patch they can concentrate on PVE stuff, i'd love to have quests with the NPC's talking and acting out scenes... Maybe a more involving story oriantated quests, or taking part in epic quests that actually feel epic.
 

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/me points at sig

it's the only bad thing i can see about 1.81

Code:
[10:17:51] <miracle-mm> zz at 1.81 ~~ 500rp for kill in grp 2.3k for solo kill ~~ and shit with artis
[10:18:03] <MaditioN> nerf ><
[10:18:22] <MaditioN> ppl gonna be rr12 in no time
[10:18:32] <Minn> it sucks tbh
[10:19:33] <MaditioN> yer
[10:19:36] <MaditioN> im gonna get a t-shirt
[10:19:42] <MaditioN> "i was rr11 before 1.81 patch"
[10:20:40] <MaditioN> the arti thing is good tho
[10:21:33] <Minn> haha
[10:21:45] <miracle-mm> ay same
[10:22:20] <miracle-mm> we did 60-80k
[10:22:29] <miracle-mm> now tis like close to 300k
[10:22:36] <miracle-mm> 200-300
[10:22:41] <miracle-mm> in one day
[10:22:48] <MaditioN> yer
[10:23:02] <miracle-mm> 250*7=1,5m per week
[10:23:14] <miracle-mm> rr10 in one month
 

Golena

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This NEEDS to be changed. ML's are now going to take twice as long, because you will have to stop every 30 seconds to shift-D your inventories.

Reducing the average time to get a full book to 30-60 minutes farming would of been fine, making it so your done in 2 mins is just pointless, if your actually going to do that, just remove the scrolls completely. Why the hell would you implement a system where you need to go to an ME and buy 3 1 gold items everytime you want to activate an artifact, it's a pointless waste of 10 minutes of gamer time and achieves nothing. If they said, before you can activate an artifact you need to run 20 times clockwise round aerus haven then you will get your artifact, people would laugh and call mythic idiots, how is this really any different?
 

Awarkle

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no it means MLs wont take Half as long because your not begging folk to pick up loot all the fecking time.

6 months it took us to equip our group thats 8 hours a week , you think 6 months is a good feature that is 1 character fully equiped and with at least 6 bubs into level 50 before they all hit lvl 10 ?

im sorry but i actually want to turn my heretic/valkyrie/vampire/warlock/healer/ + any other alt i choose to level rvr active within a month or two at the most.

Artifact farming and Scroll whoring made the game very ME me me me me orientated no longer we going to see the "i camped for cloudsong and it was bum rushed from underneath me" because now there is no reason why folks just cant join a group.

Seem to me some people are not actually thinking this through and are instead going "omg toa is too easy". Thats a good thing means more new players wont be put off by the common answer about toa "yeah it takes about 2 weeks to hit 50 but your going to be farming toa for months"

i dont think it will make things easier in rvr as they havnt touched that but at least folks will go "hey i can get into rvr a lot easier than before yay \o/. " guild groups that want to change their setup or even start a new guild group wont think "naww we got our rr10 mains i cant be bothered with toa!

anywho looking forward im sure goa have sent emisaries to mythic to abduct some of their programmers so they can 1.81 activated asap :)
 

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Shike said:
leveling artis to lvl10 isnt a challenge
Dude, what is this challenge you speak of? I've read the patchnotes over and over again, and tbh, I cant see anything "challenging" beeing changed at all.
The only challenge will be in getting the complementary dropped items you'll need to complete your templates.
Prices for soot boots, cinder sleeves, immo rings and other items like that will probably skyrocket. The cash will have to go somewhere.

Danita
 

Nix

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Awarkle said:
... Seem to me some people are not actually thinking this through and are instead going "omg toa is too easy"....

It's nothing like that m8. I haven't seen anyone defending the current scroll drop rate, just people wondering why the drop rate has been increased TOO much. With the increased scroll drop rate, farming scrolls is just a 10 minute walk in the park, that makes most parts of ToA useless. Or more likely, a 1 minute stroll to the nearest market explorer.

It would be way more interesting if the drop rate would be adjusted slightly lower (instead of the:"Same Old Love Story"-scenario in 1.81 currently), so new players would have to explore ToA a bit for scroll dropping mobs, and whack them a while to get the scroll (I'm not talking about several hour sessions that we now have, but more in the lines what Golena suggested), and experienced/established players would just need to buy the scrolls off the CMs for couple of plats tops, as the drops would be less rare, but not insanely common either. This system would help the new players more, as they would be the ones selling the scrolls, powergamers cba with the less profitable scrollfarming but would be only after the rare drops, right?

It's not all black and white, there's shades of gray between, if you get my meaning, Awarkle? :)
 

SkarIronfist

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Well not so sure about the rps, seem far to high, does tend to under value the time invested in getting your chars RRs in RVR. I would have left the RR points left as it.

Danger of alot of RR10 groups running around with RR10 RA sets.

I think there is a real danger of the game being dumbed down far to much. Abit like what Sony have done on SWG.

Maybe by the time we get 1.81, we have a more balanced 1.81 patch.
 

Awarkle

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sony didnt dumb down SWG they gutted it :D

i think mythic are trying to make the RVR side more fun and more rewarding, at the moment i would say that rvr favours the rr10 groups far more than a solo rr1 peeps. Which is sort of fair but if that rr1 peep can never actually kill anyone then they will get pretty bored and leave.
 

Dr_Evil

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Awarkle said:
sony didnt dumb down SWG they gutted it :D

i think mythic are trying to make the RVR side more fun and more rewarding, at the moment i would say that rvr favours the rr10 groups far more than a solo rr1 peeps. Which is sort of fair but if that rr1 peep can never actually kill anyone then they will get pretty bored and leave.
Are you one of those who leave the game when it starts getting challenging?
 

Argyle_Avendale

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Shike said:
leveling artis to lvl10 isnt a challenge
zerging down MLs isnt a challenge
farming scrolls isnt a challenge
rolling for artifacts after you did it with some people isnt a challenge
buying artis and scrolls off CMs isnt a challenge
camping artifacts isnt challenging

Dude, what is this challenge you speak of? I've read the patchnotes over and over again, and tbh, I cant see anything "challenging" beeing changed at all.

I am refering to the patch as a whole.

For me, they are taking away a lot of things. The joy of finally getting that scroll ive been searching for. The joy of getting my artifact collection finished. The joy of having that special artifact, which doesnt belong to every single other person who just hit 46. Imo they added ToA, and now they are semi removing it again. Earning cash 4tl.
 

Penlid

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MaditioN said:
/me points at sig

it's the only bad thing i can see about 1.81

Code:
[10:17:51] <miracle-mm> zz at 1.81 ~~ 500rp for kill in grp 2.3k for solo kill ~~ and shit with artis
[10:18:03] <MaditioN> nerf ><
[10:18:22] <MaditioN> ppl gonna be rr12 in no time
[10:18:32] <Minn> it sucks tbh
[10:19:33] <MaditioN> yer
[10:19:36] <MaditioN> im gonna get a t-shirt
[10:19:42] <MaditioN> "i was rr11 before 1.81 patch"
[10:20:40] <MaditioN> the arti thing is good tho
[10:21:33] <Minn> haha
[10:21:45] <miracle-mm> ay same
[10:22:20] <miracle-mm> we did 60-80k
[10:22:29] <miracle-mm> now tis like close to 300k
[10:22:36] <miracle-mm> 200-300
[10:22:41] <miracle-mm> in one day
[10:22:48] <MaditioN> yer
[10:23:02] <miracle-mm> 250*7=1,5m per week
[10:23:14] <miracle-mm> rr10 in one month


QQ more noobs!
 

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Shike said:
leveling artis to lvl10 isnt a challenge
zerging down MLs isnt a challenge
farming scrolls isnt a challenge
rolling for artifacts after you did it with some people isnt a challenge
buying artis and scrolls off CMs isnt a challenge
camping artifacts isnt challenging

Dude, what is this challenge you speak of? I've read the patchnotes over and over again, and tbh, I cant see anything "challenging" beeing changed at all.

I think its a just reward when you finally get your first char to ml10, fully toaed and sced etc

Now its a piece of piss, taking away all the sense of achivement

I spent hours getting the little bits and pieces that make up my template and spent a good amount of money on it, now some guy who has just left his paladin/icer fop bot in PoC/AC can go and get every artifact he desires without no timing

Shit really.
 

Devilseye

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Hmm been playing on US servers a bit now. and checked multiple ME's.. but Lovestory 3o3 is still expensive.. and like GoV 8p?? think he/she keeps it in reserve tho.. as unactivated arti's are not much of use anymore =]

and i've also noticed they have uber emotes :D

/rofl /lookfar /doh /mememe (ie: Pick me! jump up and down with your hand in the air :p)


realy cool =]

and ofcourse allot more stuff we dont have

Horses look /wub.. dye'd arti's look wub.. Champion weapons look /wub (tho most use arti's there)..

crap loads of ppl with Elder title (4+ year old account)
and Frontier Champion (if i remember correctly) for being CL5

and ofc. a pack of Dragon Foe's (10x dragon slaying)


just that i SOOO hate playing without /level 20 but hey ;>

also a cool thing is that porting in and out of zones takes less then 3secs :O

dunno how its possible. but its allot faster than here

and ofc abit more of roleplay (npc tent camps in classic zone(s)

sshot003.jpg


/point /rofl ftw =]


and on merlin theres rvr action like 24/7. lots of ppl online. (so its not realy a place to find 1vs1 ;))
nice ppl.. and for some reason the cliprange on US servers has increased?

cant believe i could see Dun Ailline Watchtower from DL @ Excalibur/Prydwen..

Oh well

/end of hugging US servers :>
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last thing.. MXN ui has some bug @ US server (styles got reorganized. so couldnt drag them back to the quickbar after removing them)..
/appeal... 8GM's online. watching over pretty much all servers. and got helped in like 4mins.. something GoA hasn't realy heard of
 

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