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[old.Greggor]

On the US servers the Top Ten Rps

In fact the top 10 goes like this:

Ranger
Nightshade
Hunter
Minstrel
Shadowblade
Hero
Infiltrator
Scout
Eldritch
Blademaster

Hibernia is just flat out overpowered, as they make up 8 out of the top 15.

 

[andrilyn]

Ns = teh gimp, I cant really beleave a NS getting rps without leeching from a zerg or from someone, please, when a Infil or SB does 500+ dmg on PA a NS only does 150 dmg.
Classes getting the most RPs are stealthers thats true though but I would rather think archer types (Scout,Hunter,Ranger).

 

[old.Sohawen]

umm where is our "OVER POWERD CLERIC" .... .. . . .. .

Nerf em all

 

[Danya]

Blademaster is overpowered? Just shows you how misleading random statistics can be.

 

[matax]

Oh here we go again, another post asking for something to be nerfed - how many of these do we have to put up with

 

[Blood]

when doing these lists you really should look at RP last week, since Mythic are nerfing the classes left and right on a regular basis

 

[Danya]

NERF BLADEMASTERS!!

 

[Generic Poster]

How are these figures calculated though?

I suspect they take the average of each classes RPs. As there are less Nightshades, then Infils and SBs... they'll have a higher average RP, right?

Same with Blademasters.


Lets say; you have 500 Armsmen who rack up 1Million RPs, in a week. That makes an average of 2000RP per Armsman.

You have 40 Blademasters, who make 100,000RPs, this averages to 2500RP per Blademaster.


So, the least played classes will have an unrealistic comparrison to the most played. The only way to do this, is to take statistics from actively played lv50 classes. Not something which takes into consideration every player, from lv5-50.

 

[Danya]

What they need to do is a proper comparison of number of each class, number of realm points earned, time played. Even that doesn't neccessarily give the full picture as some classes might just sit and farm RPs in a zerg without being particularly uber.
The problem is it's very hard to quantify unbalance between the realms therefore you're left with people's opinions, and have to sift through the bias.

 

[old.Baritone]

Most sensible reply i have seen in ages Dannyn

 

[Gef]

Originally posted by andrilyn
Ns = teh gimp, I cant really beleave a NS getting rps without leeching from a zerg or from someone, please, when a Infil or SB does 500+ dmg on PA a NS only does 150 dmg.
Classes getting the most RPs are stealthers thats true though but I would rather think archer types (Scout,Hunter,Ranger).

Think you will find that with the new armor tables that NS's will be doing some major damage against certain armor types .. not sure of the specifics but could explain why they have suddenly jumped up teh RP ranks...

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by andrilyn
Ns = teh gimp, I cant really beleave a NS getting rps without leeching from a zerg or from someone, please, when a Infil or SB does 500+ dmg on PA a NS only does 150 dmg.
Classes getting the most RPs are stealthers thats true though but I would rather think archer types (Scout,Hunter,Ranger).

You know nothing about NS it seems

 

[Danya]

NS aren't gimped, just people don't know how to play them. If used well they are a very effective class.

 

[Jexa]

Hmm, how lucky people get with groups is a factor too ...

Mr Paladin could be a real nice person and get good groups lots, so lots of RPs .... doesn't make Pallies good RvRers .....

 

[Marcus75]

Of course there are times when another character has the upper hand but I too, think that it all comes down with who is behind the keyboard.

A great player makes a great character!

 

[Sharma]

nerf threads......cant escape em....

 

[Shike]

scout, hunter, ranger???

afaik, a ranger have most RP in EU-eng-servers i dont see one scout thats even near Eleasias in amount of RP's.

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by Shike
scout, hunter, ranger???

afaik, a ranger have most RP in EU-eng-servers i dont see one scout thats even near Eleasias in amount of RP's.

lol.. do you actually think before you post this stuff?

ask Eleasias why he have so many RP, its because of all the easy kill albs in emain (im guessing here).

it also take highly a skilled and very dedicated player to take a class to an extreme as he have.

 

[andrilyn]

Originally posted by old.Teador


You know nothing about NS it seems

More than you think...

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by Dannyn
NS aren't gimped, just people don't know how to play them. If used well they are a very effective class.

Yeah like the fact that alot of the high level 'shades on Hib/Prydwen seem to have NOT bought See Hidden...

WTF?

 

[Danya]

Have to say having played both english servers, excal has the better hib stealthers.
Yet to even get PAed by an NS let alone killed.

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by andrilyn


More than you think...

yes you know lots about NS.. btw gregorfatchap is a blue con ranger, not a NS so prob has minimal melee spec at all.. Kherion is a lvl38 BM so green con, and Maxus would be a yellow con warden.. Yes you clearly know plenty about NSes. I bow to your superior knowledge, just one thing tho.. wtf has that picture to do with anything?

 

[Shike]

Blood, A good player always owns a bad player, nomatter of class, I am aware of that.

And I painfully have to admit that i read Andris post too fast, I thought she ranked the 3 classes in that order ,my mistake

nevermind my post before this one.

 

[Gef]

Originally posted by vidx


Yeah like the fact that alot of the high level 'shades on Hib/Prydwen seem to have NOT bought See Hidden...

WTF?

Plain fact is 'See Hidden' wont get you kills, very few (if any) archers will venture out on their own to solo any more. Most of the minstrels/archers have adapted to work as part of a group now. So really whats the point in buying it .. its more of a preventative measure to stop snipers.

So long that a few people have it to discourage the archers from going it solo thats all thats needed..

 

[Venemous]

...

Buying see hidden would gimp me right up i reckon.... good for SB's though as they get to keep the minstrel population under control...

 

[old.Jadow]

Yeah see hidden is a bit of a rip off for albs.

We get to see 2 enemy classes ( ranger, hunter) . Other realms get to see 3 (minstrel, scout + a.n.other). Maybe we should have a 1/3 reduction in points or something.

<Starts his "Infiltrators should get see hidden for five points" campaign>

 

[Solid]

Erm I read on these boards that Nightshades get crits on their DoT's, is someone making this up or what?

 

[old.Jadow]

Nope. There's a realm ability which they can take. Nasty eh?

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Solid
Erm I read on these boards that Nightshades get crits on their DoT's, is someone making this up or what?

I've certainly heard NS's mention hitting for ~160/tick with lifebane. That's gotta hurt.

 

[Solid]

OK as I thought its a RA.

one of the YMCA Brigade was using the arguemnst NS get shouts and crits on their DoT's as a reason that Infils got 2.5 spec points, which I founf laughable