Off-topic Mafia #9 Game Thread

[Morphius]

haha Rubric, when I first saw that you'd voted me off I thought what the hell have you done. About a minute after that I realise you'd won the game for us, by casting the last vote on me and me being Mafia you were the most innocent of the 4. You cast the look away from you and allowed the prior suspicion of Golena come back around, allowing you to win.

Good Game.

And just to clarify to all, I did honestly think day 1 = day 1, it wasn't a mafia hop around thing, i just fucked up.

 

[Rubric]

but in all fiarness only Levin can answer that, oh and I'm really curiose why did you choose to night kill me ? I was an easy Lynch target, sure it turned out a win but I'd say you got lucky, and that golena was kept out of it.

I chose you as you didn't vote for morph so that everyone left was thinking it must be Thot and then when it wasn't that it must be Gol.

Worked quite nicely i thought.

 

[Rubric]

haha Rubric, when I first saw that you'd voted me off I thought what the hell have you done. About a minute after that I realise you'd won the game for us, by casting the last vote on me and me being Mafia you were the most innocent of the 4. You cast the look away from you and allowed the prior suspicion of Golena come back around, allowing you to win.

Good Game.

And just to clarify to all, I did honestly think day 1 = day 1, it wasn't a mafia hop around thing, i just fucked up.

Thanks Dude, i know you suggested us bickering and throwing suspicion against each other but i don't think you realised i would take it that far. Worked out well though. Thank god.

Oh and it was allowing us to win, as the win counts for you too. Now you just need to hold on to that 100% record.

 

[Olgaline]

What was the PM?

Quite frequently got ot delete messages in my in and out box here on FH.

might be a day or two before I get game #10 started....

was before game #9 cant remember if it was before game #8 also

was just some random theme idea's aflik it was before you even announced that you'd runa theme game.

 

[Olgaline]

I chose you as you didn't vote for morph so that everyone left was thinking it must be Thot and then when it wasn't that it must be Gol.

Worked quite nicely i thought.

heh fair enough, just goes to show how differently people think.
the fact that I got night killed told me that it was almost garantied that toht was innocent,

not that i could do anything about it

 

[old.Tohtori]

I would've gotten away with hanging Rubrci if it wasn't for those pesky Levin and Kirennia fellas

Good game, nicely played and as i DID say, just the kida tactic i would've used

Copyright "kill buddy mafia" lawsuit is i the mail

 

[Golena]

Pitty Levin decided he wanted it over so quickly tbh since I knew from reading halfway through day 3 that Rubric was mafia and had some fairly convincing arguments to go along with it.. (if you wanted to do some detective work the fact that the night choice was made without me logging on would of done it, but it would of been rather against the spirit of the games )

Slightly disapointed actually in him that he didn't give me time to even get one post in on the last 2 days although I guess his reasoning that he didn't want to have his head twisted like last time is fair. Just think he missed a very large opportunity on day 3 to get some more info before the lynch for everyone. Fast voting is never good for the town!

What I can't understand is that he didn't once question the fact that Rubric was almost 100% certain that I was partnering Morph, when when morph was found guilty with his next post voted on Toht. It's the reason I asked people to hang me on day 1, because I saw exactly that scenario occuring, I had figured when Toht was hung by Rubric that Levin might of realised it, but these things are always easier to spot when you know your innocent like Iceforge pointed out.

Maybe next time i'll get a chance to point it out tho I guess. I was rather hampered by a 15 hour flight to Hong Kong in the middle of this game which is I guess what might of cost us it tho.

 

[Levin]

Seriously, don't be disappointed in me. In the game I was referring to where Tohtori was mafia, we would have won if I'd done what I did this time. So it's NOT always good for the town to wait and listen to people. I know it sucks to be hung innocently and that you want to blame someone, but hey, that's what happened to me last game 5 minutes before I managed to claim my cop role because I was out for lunch!

In this game, you simply looked more guilty to me, because Rubric played his whole game very strategically from the point where he came in. Give him some credit instead of blaming me.

 

[Levin]

What I can't understand is that he didn't once question the fact that Rubric was almost 100% certain that I was partnering Morph, when when morph was found guilty with his next post voted on Toht.

Because suddenly you voted for Morph too and helped kill a mafia. Rubric used that as a way of "changing his mind" about you, and it was perfectly viable. I didn't smell bad fish either, because he would have had my help to vote you off had he decided to stay with accusing you. Once again, remember that in my eyes it was 100% that one of you or Tohtori was mafia.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Once again, remember that in my eyes it was 100% that one of you or Tohtori was mafia.

That much was obvious, and for the mafia to use very nicely.

Rubric did play fine enough at start, but i just can't get my head around you not even trying to listen to what i said about Rubric.

Not to mention second day, when you simply voted for Golena without thinking too much and gave Rubric an easy win.

The thing is, yes, if i WAS mafia this time, you would've done good, but you made the mistake of believing Rubric as 100% innocent, just like with me in earlier game.

Noone, and i do mean noone, should be given 100% either way status in this game.

I'm nto blaming you for the loss, plenty of mistakes, but the last two votes were very uncharacteristic of you.

 

[Levin]

Tohtori... in this game, especially in the final round, you can't trust someone 65% or 90% or even 99%. You put your vote and that means a 100% committment. I had to chose one! How can you say "you can't trust someone 100%"? I know that, but even if i had small doubts what choice did I have??? I had to trust someone and it was the final vote!

I heard all that you said and all that Golena said but how do you expect me to believe anything you guys say after using your 'methods'? At least I was dead on about Morphius from the start. Can you two say the same? I beleived I did the right thing. I'm done defending myself for just playing the game to the best of my ability and trying to win for the town.

If I've learnt something, it's that Rubric is a damn good player.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Tohtori... in this game, especially in the final round, you can't trust someone 65% or 90% or even 99%. You put your vote and that means a 100% committment. I had to chose one! How can you say "you can't trust someone 100%"? I know that, but even if i had small doubts what choice did I have??? I had to trust someone and it was the final vote!

I heard all that you said and all that Golena said but how do you expect me to believe anything you guys say after using your 'methods'? At least I was dead on about Morphius from the start. Can you two say the same? I beleived I did the right thing. I'm done defending myself for just playing the game to the best of my ability and trying to win for the town.

If I've learnt something, it's that Rubric is a damn good player.

Err...calm down maybe?

You were hasty, it's a fact and i can't see why it's such a big problem to say.

We all make mistakes, but usualyl you've atleast given a chance to answer some claims before(like on my case) hanging in the middle of the night.

And i'm not gonna go on an offense here, but Rubrics tactic was almsot play by play what i did in the previous game, when i hanged ECA etc, yet when i said "this is how i did it, would do it", it was not even considered.

the hastiness of it all just puzzles. Like golena said, two days without even able to post is not good.

Last day was all you. Day start, vote, give rubric all the ammo. You did't stop once because you were deadfast on hanging both me and golena.

Not to mention, many of the reasons you give here are what you hated:

- Voting when you're unable to post, then doing the same.
- Using previous games as reference, then doing the same.

 

[old.Tohtori]

And once more Levin, not accusing you of the loss, just giving some feedback as per usual, as you did give too.

 

[Rubric]

Err...calm down maybe?

You were hasty, it's a fact and i can't see why it's such a big problem to say.

We all make mistakes, but usualyl you've atleast given a chance to answer some claims before(like on my case) hanging in the middle of the night.

And i'm not gonna go on an offense here, but Rubrics tactic was almsot play by play what i did in the previous game, when i hanged ECA etc, yet when i said "this is how i did it, would do it", it was not even considered.

the hastiness of it all just puzzles. Like golena said, two days without even able to post is not good.

Last day was all you. Day start, vote, give rubric all the ammo. You did't stop once because you were deadfast on hanging both me and golena.

Not to mention, many of the reasons you give here are what you hated:

- Voting when you're unable to post, then doing the same.
- Using previous games as reference, then doing the same.

You probably won't believe me but i never even saw the last game, funny thing is if that's what happened in it it probably heloped me as nobody thought it would happen twice in a row lol.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You probably won't believe me but i never even saw the last game, funny thing is if that's what happened in it it probably heloped me as nobody thought it would happen twice in a row lol.

Oh i do believe you, though it takes a deviant mind to kill your own buddy, but it's fun as hell

And works like hell too.

that's why i was able to call it really.

 

[Ch3tan]

I think Levin did the right thing, Golena and Tohts long posts were too much. The point they were trying to make got lost in all the waffle. Too many opinions, with quotes that could be taken in a number of ways. That is why you both looked guilty to me, and dangerous to the towns survival if nothing else. Looking back, Levin caught onto a flaw (with morphios on day 1), and argued it well. Toht and Gol you jumped from one argument to the next. I do not know about the other players but I found my self skim reading your posts very quickly.

Sorry about that on day 1 Levin, I just thought Golenas flaw on the first set of posts was bigger than Morphios, and that was wrong. I'm usually good at jumping on little white lies as well :/

 

[old.Tohtori]

The thing is though, without me and golena doing the posty posty, it would've been like this on day one:

....

.........

Hi!

Hang him!!


Don't you agree?

if noone says anything, it's a shot in the dark. If you DO say something, you get hanged without even asking "which noose?".

 

[Ch3tan]

No I don't agree. you confused matters too much. I had the same amount of time I have for most wolf games, I find time to analyse posts and reply lots. This time all my time was spent trawling the ten pages of insta spam you and gol generated every ten minutes

Hence any valid points you made got lost in the waffle. I am not saying people should be silent. But as a townie casting doubt on everyone and everything and then backing it up with some convinient quotes does nothing but help the mafia.

 

[old.Tohtori]

No I don't agree. you confused matters too much. I had the same amount of time I have for most wolf games, I find time to analyse posts and reply lots. This time all my time was spent trawling the ten pages of insta spam you and gol generated every ten minutes

Hence any valid points you made got lost in the waffle. I am not saying people should be silent. But as a townie casting doubt on everyone and everything and then backing it up with some convinient quotes does nothing but help the mafia.

Actually there wasn't that much "spam"(thank you) by me or golena, compared to the rest.

Not to mention, you were fine with it, evne saying "good post" to golena, until i made a longer then usual post. then it became shite.

Long post=not bothered to read != spam.

If you ignore points, fine, but it doesn't make it bad.

 

[Levin]

Sorry about that on day 1 Levin, I just thought Golenas flaw on the first set of posts was bigger than Morphios, and that was wrong. I'm usually good at jumping on little white lies as well :/

No worries at all. In your spot I might have looked at my jumping on Morphius as well and seen as suspicious. I think you and I have a similar direct approach playstyle by the way. In retrospect I'm of course very sorry we voted you out on day 1.

 

[Ch3tan]

Hence the after I said spam Mr oversensitive

I found your two posts very hard work, Olgaline joined in as well. It honestly just made me switch off, and I usually really enjoy the arguments. I think it is honeslty because I felt your points were more fantasy than fact. Your views jumped to quickly, which is what made me think you were both mafia.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Hence the after I said spam Mr oversensitive

I found your two posts very hard work, Olgaline joined in as well. It honestly just made me switch off, and I usually really enjoy the arguments. I think it is honeslty because I felt your points were more fantasy than fact. Your views jumped to quickly, which is what made me think you were both mafia.

Not oversensitive, just saying that it's a bit rude as you've called it spam(or some such) before. Actually called it shite, but i guess that was just part of the game.

Had fair points there, if bothered to read and consider, but will go to the next game with a new plan.

 

[Levin]

I think I might try the quiet tactic next game, so don't hang me for that, ok? And by quiet I don't mean no posts.. just.. a lot fewer posts.

 

[fl3a]

i was really amazed at being never pushed this game, normally regardless of my innocence i get blamed, this time everyone took it for granted that im innocent and that was probably what made me get nightkilled. wish stuff like this happened when i was scum

 

[Iceforge]

was before game #9 cant remember if it was before game #8 also

was just some random theme idea's aflik it was before you even announced that you'd runa theme game.

Ah, yes, I got that and read it, never got to replying to it and think I deleted it now Thats what happens when one is not too carefull, sorry I remember that it sounded decent, but did not fit what I wanted to do with game 10...

 

[Golena]

Your views jumped to quickly, which is what made me think you were both mafia.

That was exactly my "plan". I deliberatly left holes in my arguments and jumped to conclusions to see who would pick up on that (more likely to be a townie looking for the truth) and who would use them to benefit themselves and use it against me. Seems too many people seemed to miss that however, think Toht saw it tho so it wasn't entirely wasted.

It doesn't work ofc if people just go, ooh a post over 12 words long, i'll skim that however so I guess a new plan is in order.

 

[Golena]

I think I might try the quiet tactic next game, so don't hang me for that, ok?

I'll try and hang you for that.

Simply because being quiet gives no information whatsoever to the town. Spam filled pages do let on who is mafia if you want to trawl through and find the clues. By spamming lots the last 2 games i've found the mafia both times. Just this game I wasn't able to use it.

If nothing else quiet people give the mafia very easy and unsuspicious night kill targets, so you can't read any info from them. Someone dying who hasn't said more than 2 words at night is a wasted night from a townies point of view, and lynching the quiet ones early is by far the best town tactic.

 

[Golena]

Seriously, don't be disappointed in me. In the game I was referring to where Tohtori was mafia, we would have won if I'd done what I did this time. So it's NOT always good for the town to wait and listen to people. I know it sucks to be hung innocently and that you want to blame someone, but hey, that's what happened to me last game 5 minutes before I managed to claim my cop role because I was out for lunch!

In this game, you simply looked more guilty to me, because Rubric played his whole game very strategically from the point where he came in. Give him some credit instead of blaming me.

Disapointed was perhaps the wrong word (I was jet lagged after a 15 hour flight and surprised to find the game ended so quickly more than anything). I wasn't really looking for someone to blame, just upset that I had worked out 99% who was mafia, had lots of arguments worked out in my head as to how to convey that and never got a chance to use them. (I'm not sure Rubric played the game that strategically, but credit to him on exploiting a weakness well which is what playing a mafia goon well is about) but there's always another game and it meant I didn't have to keep paying hotel internet prices to keep up with events so i'm not partically upset over it.