Off-topic mafia #11 Pie7+2

[Ch3tan]

Okay, Uara agreeing with Kir that I am the least suspicious is troubling me. Something too slimy about it.

unvote Toht

vote Uara

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, in my eyes Tohtori seems more innocent than the rest to me simply for having spoken out for Kirennia before he claimed doc. Ch3tan did as well even though he was willing to listen to my argument why I thought Kir was guilty. It all got turned around of course when we realized Kir is innocent. In either case, this just leaves me with Uara. Uara seems to be picking on me as an easy target and has carefully avoided suspicion upon himself.

This is troubling. As Levin got a vote, he went the way of "let's make me seem like tohtoris buddy", when infact i was thinking of changing my vote back to my second prime subject.

Seems like a "Hey, maybe he won't vote for me" move, ofcourse could be just honest.

Can't help Uara anymore, the friendliness was suspicious, but other then that, can't say i would've hung him.

Ch3tan, well, over all rest(levin excluded), most suspicious, but i think we both are by any default as we don't hold back.

My choices would've been Levin first, ch3tan second and probably get stabbed for it tonight, but so things are.

 

[Uara]

Well thats three votes then, so im dead! Just so you know i'm innocent!

 

[Ch3tan]

You probably are, however with so little to go on, it was always going to down to luck if we actually got the guilty party today.

 

[Uara]

true true, i hope the night-choices go our way then

 

[Levin]

The nightchoice is probably just going to be Kir getting done in.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The nightchoice is probably just going to be Kir getting done in.

Nice way to try and keep Kir protecting himself while you off someone else

 

[Levin]

Nice way to try and keep Kir protecting himself while you off someone else

Haha.. nice way of you playing the victim in all this.

 

[Iceforge]

As of post #271

Vote Count
Day 3

Uara - 3 - (Levin, Kirennia, Ch3tan)
Levin -1 - (Uara)
Ch3tan -1 - (Old.Tohtori)

It's a lynch! The majority of the room sweep over and beat up Uara, until he is faints and then strap him up and hang him from the roof.
A terrible fit of rage as they are certain they found out who was scum now.
Marching over to his house and the following ransacking, however, reveals that Uara was just a another simpleton; Innocent as the day is long.
Uara, the townie, may he rest in peace.

The 4 remaining townies went home to each their houses.. or at least some of them went home; Some had other nightly businesses!

Those with nightchoises, send them to me ASAP. Night ends Monday at 20.00 CET.

EDIT: Yes yes, as usual, no posting in thread until I announce it to be day 4, but think people knows that by now

 

[Iceforge]

Wake up, sleepy heads! A new day is dawning for the town!

Start day 4, you can now post and vote again!

On the way to the townhall, you see the a doctor van, crashed into a tree. Inside, Kirennia is dead, leaning in over the stering wheel. A bullet penetrating his skull.
Seems someone wanted Kirennia, the Doctor, dead... badly.

Now, 3 alive in the town; Could they find the mafia amongst themselves or would the bad guy win?

People Alive: Old.Tohtori, Levin and Ch3tan.

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'll start it out then, i WILL vote for Levin. But since ch3tan might be mafia, i'm nto gonna put Levin up for an easy snatch.

Have to choose one...so.

I'm guessing levin votes me right back, so it's kinda ch3tans job. Unless ch3tan is scum, which is just dandy as i've just sentenced us to loose.

Damn this trio is probably the most "they're all scum!" i've seen :lol:

 

[Ch3tan]

LOL.

Oh man are we screwed. I cannot possibly choose between toht and levin now. We all look as guilty as each other.

Errrr, fuck, this is hard.

I do not want to make the first move.

Toht you do not make much sense, you seem to be leaving a door for levin to vote for me just to prove you wrong. You claim you WILL vote for Levin, yet you do not. Instead you deflect onto me. That does not seem like the actions of a townie.

 

[old.Tohtori]

My alst post is a bit oddly phrased as i edited while writing it(didn't edit, just edited before posting).

What i meant is, i want to vote for levin, but if you're mafia, you'd vote for a quick victory.

Though, it goes other way around too.

If i vote for you, levin would get a quick win.

And since i'm going to go with my gut in any case...

Ah hell, if you're scum, well done: vote: levin

 

[Levin]

Hmm well i guess that leave me with no choice but to vote back. I think your tactics of saying you WILL vote on me no matter what, but then not.. is strange as well. If you were so sure, then there was no way Ch3tan could be mafia anyway? Which leads to the question - why the hesitation? Maybe you wanted me to vote for him, and then change your vote to him too since it doesn't really matter to you who dies next as long as it's not you?

I thought you were innocent for speaking up early for Kirennia. But you've fooled me many times before. Also the sense of drama and commenting on it, almost proudly, gives me a feeling of "director Tohtori" being behind this.

Vote: Tohtori

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah, i'm so cunning that i defend the doc. Please, some moderation in your admiration

I didn't vote for you straight up as i wanted to hear some comments, simple and also what you have been always advocating. Now that i did, you're somehow pushing that as a reaason for being naughty?

Come on.

 

[old.Tohtori]

And by the way, you do have other options then just voting back.

If you think ch3tan is guilty, show why, vote as you feel is right and don't try to make it all seem like my fault.

 

[Levin]

If Ch3tan had been guilty, he would have had all night and morning to vote me off. If i voted on him he would still have the option of voting me off so it would be a loss for the town in either case.

That's why i vote on you. Your vote on me has screwed us in either case IF Ch3tan is guilty. My only hope now is that he's not and that he'll vote on you.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Ofcourse you do as i'm not scum.

Nice "damned if you do" twist by you there, completely relieving yourself of all guilt.

I know ch3tan isn't guilty, or he's toying with us bigtime.

I can only say i've worked for the town all the time, tried to get you hung from the start after i started suspecting you on various issues and actually, even after figuring out kirennia is the doc, defending him instead of just picking up some odd reason to hang the town doc.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, in my eyes Tohtori seems more innocent than the rest to me simply for having spoken out for Kirennia before he claimed doc.

Just to point out, you even agreed on it...

 

[Levin]

Tohtori i'm not blaming you for voting or doing anything. I am simply explaining to you why it would not make sense for me to vote Ch3tan now that you've voted on me. If chose to go with the "I bet Ch3tan is guilty" option and vote for him now - what will happen? He will just vote on me and win anyway! By voting on you, at least there is a hope that you are guilty instead and that he'll vote on you. Get it?

Also, I'm not trying to wriggle out of your vote for me or cast blame on you - I pretty much expected you to gun for me. But don't try and make it sound as if i have options here when i don't. If you actually think Ch3tan is guilty, you should have voted on him. If you think I am guilty, which you seem to do, then yes keep your vote on me and let Ch3tan decide what he wants to do. Don't waste your time trying to wriggle out of my vote, as there's no way i'll change it while yours is on me - for the above logical reasons.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah it's given that ch3tan is innocent in my books, could be wrong, just seemed like you're basically throwing a "well it's your fault then" when you say you don't have a choice.

I'm not trying to wriggle out of the vote as i know it's your only choice of winning, seeing as ch3tan didn't vote you off last night already.

Ofcourse i'll vote for you, as i've suspected you long before for reasons stated several times.

 

[Ch3tan]

Neither of you has said anything that makes you appear less guilty in my eyes.

Why all these claims that I am innocent? Will it stop me voting for you? Cause me hesitation? Hmmm?

So, Levin, Toht. Why should I not vote for you (in 50 words or less please toht)

 

[Levin]

Ch3tan, my claim of you being innocent is now just based on common sense. If you were guilty, you'd already have won. Tohtori and I have a vote each, and if you're mafia you could vote for either of us and get your fanfare!

Why you should vote for Tohtori and not me, is a harder question to answer. From my point of view, and now knowing he must be guilty, I still can't see anything that sticks out as hard evidence against throughout the thread - just some small mistakes that he could make for having a cold or whatever. He has a sense for the dramatic though, and I think some of his comments on this last day let's that shine through a little bit, for whatever that may be worth.

Finally all I can say is: I will hate you if you lose this for us! But no pressure! :wub:

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah the innocence is rather obvious, or you're very taunting in your victory, but i wouldn't put that past any of us

Why you shouldn't vote for me? I kept, atleast for my part, kirennia the doc safe, even after i noticed he was the doc as i suspected. I also held back my Levin vote to give time for people to talk. Well, reasonable time.

Also, i guess my best "defence" would be what levin himself said, as i quoted; "Well, in my eyes Tohtori seems more innocent than the rest to me simply for having spoken out for Kirennia before he claimed doc."

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm going to have to ponder this in greater depth and look over everything you have both said so far. This could take some time.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The ironic part is that the only way either one of us could be proven as innocent, by default "are you that stupid"-factor, would be for either me or levin to vote for you.

If the other person doesn't vote for you too, he's innocent for sure, or really silly.

But, as Levin and you surely notice, there's the little problem with that

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm not free until the weekend to re-read and cast my vote....

 

[Ch3tan]

Gah, I put the last vote on uara and condemed him.

Toht did not vote for him, but if he was mafia he did not have to either.

Levin was quick to vote uara after uara voted for him, nice cover as a tit for tat vote.

My gut is screaming toht, my mind is screaming levin. I do not know which to go with.

Uara thought it was levin, and I think he is more likely.

however can I bring myself to let toht live? If levin is innocent and I condemn him, can I live with tohts gloating before he turns the knife on me?

GAH!

 

[Ch3tan]

Righto, I have re-read the thread. I do not believe that as a mafia toht would have been so casual and careless with some of the mistakes and assumptions he has made.

On the basis that Levin has been very careful not to cross swords with anyonr -always backing off when he could go for the kill, re-considering based on peoples counter-arguments. It just seemed like he was trying to be everyones friend. Toht on the other hand was not in it to win favour from anyone else.

Toht if you are guilty then well done, but make no mistake, if I had the ability I would be voting you both off right now.

vote Levin

 

[old.Tohtori]

*lifts two thumbs up for ch3tan*

Had to restrain my tongue to not give you any more reason to vote for me, now let's hang that scum!