Off-Topic Mafia #10 Special Game Thread

[Olgaline]

fair enough, here was my first thought, or rather my inturpritation of the roles

I say we should focus on finding the Army guy or guys first, as I understand it, these are the recruiters. Meaning they will add in number each night, plus kill someone, and with only 7 players it'll be a quick one if we dont get it right fast :S
There is no real info on the NrA and what role they play, If they are part of the army or independant?

and I explain it further

good sir, it's a simple mafia conversion act, that can happen each night,
as it can in more advanced mafia games.
the same way cop investigations work, the doctors protection role, night kills and so on.

I belive usually mafia recrutment roles happen in high number games, where you have godfathers, roleblockers, and maisons....

This being a Themed game, that ability has been added to the game. But I do belive it's not a thing you can challenge or prevent, it just happens, if the mafia and in this case The army see's fit.

based on what i read from the wiki mafia traitor role, and thought that recrutement would have been an adoptation of this role.

Who usually draft members of socialy though recruitment campains ?thats right, the army does! so naturally, logic deducts that these are our prime concern. ?

wich i explain above why i think this could be.
and below i make it clear that it's an asumption, but at this point I slowly begin to dout my self

you seee my good man, It was an Assumption on my part that that was how we should interpret the mention of recruitment, this could just as well, have been the way they "killed" us.

I also do not as of yet see any reason to expell anyone els.
not before we learn more about these people. Kirennia seems to suffer from some form of amnesia, adonix has his dog and reminds me of a vagabond, hardly seems threatening to me. levin seems the to be reflective as well, and displaying true pacifistic nature as well. calo hasnt said a word! not one, and morph is hard to get any read on at all.

wich brings me to

This Just dawned on me on the bus on the way home!

It's also Intriging how the two of them dont even stop to question the likely hood of my theory but automaticly jump on it stating it to be fact. Quickly turning it into a counter attack on my person instead of indulging in prooving or disprooving my theory or suplying other thoeries and posibilities. but I guess that doesnt serve thier cause now does it ?! not once concidering that what might have been ment by recruitment would be a" night kill" like expell is the equivelent of a "Lynch"

Not once pointing out that in a game of seven and most likey two "mafia" aka The Army/NrA if the Recruitment worked the way I first theorized wich was the way i read it, that would mean they would only need one kill to win 2+1+night kill = 3v3
or without nightkill gives 2+1 recruit on night one, leaving an auto win on day 2 with 4v3

But that Just prooves my point, that it's of no importance to them. Trying to achive the goal wich would be making someone look suspeciose/guilty to get a lynch however is!

No my fellow Pasifists I'm confidant that even tho my Origional theory might have been flawed, we indeed learned alot from it, and especially learned who to be suspeciose of as their Intent seems very much malicious indeed! thier intent has never been that of aiding an investigation, what they want or at least one of them, is a lynch mob! nothing more.

so as you can see I've brought up variouse theories
and For now I've landed at the conclusion that my initial theory is Unlikely and that rather than An actual recrutment taking place it's just another word/term for a night kill,

and surely you can see how with seven players my initial theory is unlikely ?
wich btw is your bases for suspecting and voting for me.

 

[Olgaline]

what anoys me here is that I might end up lynched mearly due to inactivity and bringing fourth a theory and being talkative.

and I'd bring your attention to this:
wich is after! I explain how i think the whole recrutement theory is unlikely
fl3a desides that yes even with 7 players, my initial theory is indeed very likely that the army can kill people and recrute people each night in a seven man game! wich would effectively end the game at day 2.

Really!?

i dont question the likelyhood of your theory, i am quite certain that you are telling the truth. and that is also the reason i am voting against you, since no pacifist should have (at least i dont) that knowledge at this point in the game.

yet oddly no one els seems to share this concern at all ?
wich leaves me again with the next best bet wich atm is Levin

 

[Olgaline]

Here's my breakdown of things atm:

Toht: Being Toht, and procuting me as usual "nothing suspeciouse really"

Fl3a: Jumped on Tohts Vote and reasoning, and stubornly refusing to at least acknolage that his reason for voting for me is Unlikily at best.

Levin: Being very odd, unusually quiet, voting for Kirennia seems really odd, and voting for me, with the soul reason "to get things moving" that last part, is the biggest suspect part, surely as a pacifist you'd want to be sure of your vote or at least hold some confidance in your vote, as a "wrong lynch" or maybe more importantly "any lynch" only benifits the army/NrA this together with the "please dont let this game die" puts him at my top two with Fl3a

Kirennia: Seems innocent enough, but I have a hunch he's on "a timer" and will recover as long as we give him due time. I see no reason to expell or suspect him.

Morph: The only one who seems to get what I've been saying, and well thought out on his arguments and reasoning, see no reason to suspect

Adonix: Hmm why do I keep getting the mental image of a bumb with his dog down at the local corner with rag for cloths, a roled filterles ciggy and beer breath ? no reason to suspect

 

[kirennia]

I don't know what to say this is all too ... too much ... too ... too many? Yes, too many cooks spoil the broth is what I was trying to say. We're all trying to lead this rally and .. say, what are we trying to do with this? This town looks peaceful enough. In fact, it's kind of familiar. What are we doing here guys. That's it, I'm going to ... hmm, who are you again? Anyone got a marker so I can write this down properly on my hand? I need to remember... I need to remember ... grr, what was it again?

 

[Levin]

Olgaline, this game has been very close to dying a grim death due to no posting. I'd rather we move things along and risk (you can't avoid the risk when voting anyway) getting the wrong guy, than just forget about the whole thing. Unfortunately you happened to have the most votes, and since it's still day one, one argument is pretty much as good as the other.

Of course, I hope you're the army guy. And if you're not, I'm sorry!

 

[Olgaline]

well at least now I'm preaty sure of kirennia's innocence, and morph seems to be the one voice of reason amongst you so that only leaves Adonix as a question mark for me.

the good thing is that if indeed Toht is innocent that leaves you and fl3a as clear cut army.!

I'm having my douts tho about toht as he's sticking with the vote dispite my reasent posts.. wich to me indicates that evidance and reason are of no importance, a lynch however is

and No Levin I'm not buying that reason.

 

[Levin]

and No Levin I'm not buying that reason.

I'm not expecting you to buy my reasons, just as I wondn't expect anyone here to just give up and accept their expulsion. I just figured I should comment on why I voted for you. Oh and by the way as I've explained earlier, I post from work and can't spend as much time as I used to be able to due to massive pressure at work because of colleagues being on vacation. But at least I post!

 

[fl3a]

Olgaline, this game has been very close to dying a grim death due to no posting. I'd rather we move things along and risk (you can't avoid the risk when voting anyway) getting the wrong guy, than just forget about the whole thing.

i agree with you

 

[Olgaline]

Fl3a:
- Jumps on Tohts Bandwagon,
- Stubornly refuses to see how his or rather tohts reason for voting for me is unlikely
stating that it's a definit fact! that the army can "in a seven man game" recruite other players to their mist.
- Agree's with levin that moving on at any cost is more important than looking at evidence.

I'm Dead sure off Fl3a's Guilt now, the only question is who's is accomplis ?
and atm Levin is very much looking the likely subject.
Toht being the questionmark as usual,

wich also brings me to the fact that ask your self, if I'm so guilty who's my accomplis ?

 

[Olgaline]

so I'm stick with going for levin as I cant oddly enough seem to gather support for Fl3a.

 

[Olgaline]

another question you should be asking your self is:

Is Olga Origional thoery likely ?

I say we should focus on finding the Army guy or guys first, as I understand it, these are the recruiters. Meaning they will add in number each night, plus kill someone, and with only 7 players it'll be a quick one if we dont get it right fast :S
There is no real info on the NrA and what role they play, If they are part of the army or independant?

this is the basis for tohts and fl3a's vote on me!
especially Fl3a's statement here

i dont question the likelyhood of your theory, i am quite certain that you are telling the truth. and that is also the reason i am voting against you, since no pacifist should have (at least i dont) that knowledge at this point in the game.

now then ask your self, who are the Army/NrA guys here?

 

[Olgaline]

so breakdown goes

- olga brings fourth theory based on mafia traitor role and the info given to us by our mod

- Toht jumps this stating it's knowlage i shouldnt have ? "wich i still dont get"

- Fl3a jump right on the wagon

- Olga having thought about his theory comes to the conclusion and I'm sure you'll agree, that that setup is highly unlikely due to low number of players in the game. see post #62

- Fl3a stubornly sticks to his vote stating that in a seven man game my innitial theory is indeed FACT! adn that I would openly as Army tell the lot of you that I had this power!!

- Toht for some reason goes very quiet, knowing full well I have a very valid point here, yet stays with his vote. the usual I want to hang olga at any cost or something more sinister ?

so do you really A: belive that Ice.F would set up a seven man game with The army being able to recrute and kill each night leaving an autowin situation on day 2 already
and B: that If I as Army had that Knowlage that I would really share it with you ?

 

[fl3a]

now then ask your self, who are the Army/NrA guys here?

or maybe you should ask yourself if its actually such a bad thing if you are lynched, from the towns point of view not just yours. is your role really that powerful that the cons of your death outweigh the benefits of a lynch and a night? maybe we could agree on something here:

unvote
vote: no expel

 

[Olgaline]

hmm..
only one problem with that,
we have no cop/doc
so by all accounts, this would give the army/NrA a freebee ?

 

[fl3a]

hmm..
only one problem with that,
we have no cop/doc
so by all accounts, this would give the army/NrA a freebee ?

how do you know theres no cop/doc?

 

[Olgaline]

- Going back into character after this post.

hmm good point actually, I just kinda took it for granted wich is also why I hadnt suggested it guess I held the notion that we'r pasifists, a cop seems an odd out in a pasifist group fending off mili types. And there is no mention of any thing other than mafia = Army/NrA

I'll get back to you on the No Expell idea, and In character!

 

[adoNix]

Sorry for inactivity but i couldnt pay my phone\internet bills before now
so i have been offline for a week now, it was kinda nice actually.
Got the chance to have long walks with fido.

 

[Levin]

About cops/doc/number of army guys etc.. it seems once again the odds are somewhat stacked against the pacificsts here. We simply have too little information to even know what the consequences of our actions would be! What if we vote novote and the only thing that happens is we lose a pacifist?

Hrm. *goes back to his paper shuffling*

 

[Levin]

...aaaand... the thread dies again... *taps foot impatiently* I wonder if this one will be done this year?

 

[old.Tohtori]

...aaaand... the thread dies again... *taps foot impatiently* I wonder if this one will be done this year?

Oh oh! i get to quote mondoshawan!

"Time not important. Only life important."

And it fits!

- Toht for some reason goes very quiet, knowing full well I have a very valid point here, yet stays with his vote. the usual I want to hang olga at any cost or something more sinister ?

Quiet to prove a point, quiet just because, quiet for none of your concern.

You replied with the same stuff you've posted before, and with the added "cop/doc" thing, you seem to know ALOT more about the game then the rest.

Ergo, vote stays, and this time i'm not gonna start votehopping.

There's no "olga at any cost", there's only "olga as he's the only one to doubt with current stuff".


Bytheby:

- Going back into character after this post.

Mod:(Can one just hop on and off character like that? Kinda...iffy.

 

[Olgaline]

first off, All I wrote I could easily defend within character, so dont even try, you dont know the limititations of my character, I just didnt go full out as in the beggining.

Funny toht seems to want people to belive that i now know that there are no cop/docs
twisting twisting twisting, you really are making me into a super mod type villan character eh ?
what kinda role would that be eh ?

you are Mr. Recrute every night and get a kill as well Army guy Oh and btw, as if thats not enough you also know from the get go get to know that there are no Cops or Docs!
who can harm or uncover you. Have a nice game!

anyone els beggining to see how utterly rediculouse these redundant accusations are?
Now moving on from these silly accusations.

Fl3a I know why i took it for granted why there might be no cops/docs,
Go look at post#44 from before the games died down. I actually mentioned this already, yet I got No reply's, No one it seems cared to discuss it.

Question is what are the benifits to a No expell?

 

[Olgaline]

Right first things First, this quote Imo is preaty low, as it's directed at the mod refering to me rather than directed at me, a preaty sad low blow

Bytheby:
Mod:(Can one just hop on and off character like that? Kinda...iffy.

and I'll tell you why, and Levin mate this isnt an attack on you, it's an explanation so bear with me here.

The way I see it the reason given for the last vote on me, was due to game inactivity, wich easily steps outside the confinds off the Game/roleplay world.
and it seems preaty unfair that i should be locked to within the roleplaying world and character when the voting agaisnt me is being reasoned outside this world7confind.

here's the quotes

Alright.. having forgot all that's been said and not having the time to read it all again (I too am at work while everyone else is on vacation which means i'm working like a wilderbeast on speed) so...... in the interest of speeding the game along:
Expel: Olgaline

and

Olgaline, this game has been very close to dying a grim death due to no posting. I'd rather we move things along and risk getting the wrong guy, than just forget about the whole thing.

anyway,
Levin, Just before the gamewhent Inactive you said!

Not much happening here...? What happened to discussing things out and settling for someone to expel?

Let's discuss at least? I've got craploads of work so must hurry back to it, but will try to speak up when i can!

well, Fl3a just gave us a suggestion!
a new angle and i say we at least discuss it! My only concern is that we have no clear indication of any investagive role :S

and to the group,
I submit to you one little detail, Notice who is the only person atm, not willing to discus any other option than a lynch? the only one not wanting to theorize, but rather attack and redicule tho's that would?

next he'll be telling you that i know all your roles beforehand , and hell even when your going to post so i can prepare my replies before hand and just copy paste them, For I am The Super-Magnito-joker-rambo-physcic-army-mod-guy!!!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Olga, you're the only one doing the attacking and namecalling.

I asked a mod a question, get over it, has nothing to do with you.

I have reasons to vote for you(and said them) and until there's some more pressing "info" to do otherwise, my vote stays. That does not mean i can't unvote you nutcase.

YOU saying your reasons means nothing as you could be innocent or not, lies or not, fooling or not. Get it?

What's wrong with you?! What you screamin' for?! Every 5 minutes there's somethin', a bomb or somethin'. I'm leavin'. bzzzz.

 

[Iceforge]

Mod:(Can one just hop on and off character like that? Kinda...iffy.

No, not really!

But, that being said, while Olgaline felt like he was going out of character to do that post, that post did factually not violate his post restriction.

But due to my general lack of time here, I have yet to check all posts by all people for post restriction violations, but that specific post was not a violation

 

[Uara]

I kno i'm not in this game, but I just want to say that Morphius is actually in Ecuador and will be until 26th July. So I dunno if you want to get someone to replace him or just have him expelled from your pacifist community!

 

[Olgaline]

Thank you Uara,
well it is kinda long time to wait until the 26'th tbh :S

wich leaves us with three options,

A: Replace
B: Agree to wait and only post to bump
C: Lynch Him and move on

I'm Pro Option A, waiting will take a while and I simply do not belive morph is guilty!

 

[Iceforge]

Well, Golena replacing Morphius then, didn't realise his trip to Ecuador would be until the 26th.

Welcome Golena to the game then

 

[Golena]

Well if i've like got to choose one of you people to not be here any more...

Vote Kirrenia

He's acting all crazy and stuff which is like what all them army blokes like do.

 

[Olgaline]

Oh I do declare!

my good man,
Did you go off on another of your acidtrip and change your name again ?
and what have! you done to your hair?

 

[Golena]

Actually like i'm going to get rid of Fl3a cos Toht looks like the kind of bloke that you know is like right and stuff.

Expell Old.Tohtori