OF Event?

[Kais]

it's also possible to find hibs and mids that aren't running in an 8-man fully opted gank group...


not very common in OF.

odins gate/ hadrians wall?, used to be a lot of action there and very few opted 8 man grps. Most of the time it was great fun to either solo or duo there. (with the exception of the hib steathzergs at hmg occasionaly)

 

[majik]

give more SBs and less casters @ brynje and I'm happy tbh



ZERG MEEEEH!!!!(casters not allowed to take that offer tho)

Give more random alb caster groups I can add on too while we're at it.

 

[Dorin]

That's right, it's all down to zerging albs m8s!

Here's a novel idea...

NF lay out WOULD provide a lot more varied rvr if

a) Half the so-called FGers hadn't left by the end of the first week because of the initial rush of siege fights instead of staying to make FG roaming work. Too many of them threw their toys out because the game had changed, even if potentially it was for the better.

b) Some of the FGs still out there (though not all) actually roamed areas instead of hanging about towers/edge of zergs and then complaining about the lack of a FG scene

NF layout ain't the problem, it's how it's used (or not as the case is) - and that ain't just down to albs or those who enjoy large scale/siege fights. It's also nothing to do with /rw. FG fights are already resolved by the time they show up on the map, let alone before anyone could get there to "add".

Tbh the rose-tinted-spectacle-wearing brigade are funny with their fotm OF nostalgia. HW was probably the best frontier in OF for rvr yet virtually no one, especially the self-confessed FGers, used it. Why? Because there were no easy rps to be made. Just as now many of those who claim to only want to play for FG action would rather farm the zerg at a tower than actually really roam and keep roaming until other FGs started showing up (as they would eventually). The complaints about NF from some just don't square with how they really play

dunno if you pointed a finger at me there, think i have tried to enjoy NF as long as i could take it, we tried everything but the percentage of decent fights closed to 0 after AD left the server. Yet we continued, but it became so god damn boring (and easy rps are there in NF as it was in OF too... so cant agree there with you.) to fight Synergy and Southfield only as they were the only ones actively rvsring kind of.

YEa other fgs roamed too...(namely 2 max 3 on a good day :E) adds were a big a problem in OF too, but it was okish, not so in NF. Never ever got zerged this much and we werent camping god damn docks 24/7. Emain macha was dead, HW was dead till we captured a tower... oh yea fg's showed up :--->in the form of : 80 albs on your tower, 50 albs on your tower. Novel,,, aye it was albs mainly cant help it Tried with 4 casters in tower, keke loads of fun to camp a tower and kill dudes in epic armor, must be but not for me ! :E

In of it was zergs you could fight openfield, meet roaming grps or camp amg. Action was almost instant, cant really tell the same about NF (server was like dead 2 weeks ago when i tried it, maybe i have logged on a bad day for pvp)

Agree on that NF scene is not used, yes prolly right there. But i do think its designed for 3k+ ppl not 1500.

 

[Kwidz]

dunno if you pointed a finger at me there, think i have tried to enjoy NF as long as i could take it, we tried everything but the percentage of decent fights closed to 0 after AD left the server. Yet we continued, but it became so god damn boring (and easy rps are there in NF as it was in OF too... so cant agree there with you.) to fight Synergy and Southfield only as they were the only ones actively rvsring kind of.

YEa other fgs roamed too...(namely 2 max 3 on a good day :E) adds were a big a problem in OF too, but it was okish, not so in NF. Never ever got zerged this much and we werent camping god damn docks 24/7. Emain macha was dead, HW was dead till we captured a tower... oh yea fg's showed up :--->in the form of : 80 albs on your tower, 50 albs on your tower. Novel,,, aye it was albs mainly cant help it Tried with 4 casters in tower, keke loads of fun to camp a tower and kill dudes in epic armor, must be but not for me ! :E

In of it was zergs you could fight openfield, meet roaming grps or camp amg. Action was almost instant, cant really tell the same about NF (server was like dead 2 weeks ago when i tried it, maybe i have logged on a bad day for pvp)

Agree on that NF scene is not used, yes prolly right there. But i do think its designed for 3k+ ppl not 1500.

dont write so much, cant even be arsed to read through it

 

[Flimgoblin]

I forgot to mention that for my makeshift OF event you need about 10 or 20 random albs (usually tanks) shouting "LEVEL 50 LFG" at the boat dropoff point and about 40 stealthers on each bridge

 

[Calo]

i miss the old FG fights in odins alot , and yes there were alot of FG fights.

 

[Black]

why do only scouts say NF is nice?

 

[vintervargen]

OF sucked. NF rocks

thats why server populations are 40% of OF pop!

 

[vintervargen]

it's also possible to find hibs and mids that aren't running in an 8-man fully opted gank group...


not very common in OF.

possible in OF as well, not common in either. if they are in NF, they are navigating with the swords on /rw, in OF they did through /cg.

alot of non-opted groups ran in odins, surely you remember this.

its just sad to see all the albs who blame relics and OP classes!!! 24/7.

yes relics are fucked up, savages were and still are fucked up. chanters got alot of utility. but no more then theurgists and cabalists. with all the hib/mid is better garbage, theres one counterarguement which you cant answer too:

hibs had gp, mids had instacc, alb had OP bof/sos - yet no alb grp used it. but i guess its still the realms and not the players that made the diff.

 

[inflames]

why do only scouts say NF is nice?

Stop pwn scouts :<<

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Give more random alb caster groups I can add on too while we're at it.

:< as long as u get the mid casters away from brynje I'm happy

 

[Bracken]

but i guess its still the realms and not the players that made the diff.

That's right, clicking the tree instantly gave you mad skillz and tictakz m8s!!!

Glad to see some things never change, such as The World According To Cpt. Ebay. (aren't generalisations sooooo last year....)





Oops I nearly forgot the ubiquitous

 

[Docs]

hibs had gp, mids had instacc, alb had OP bof/sos - yet no alb grp used it. but i guess its still the realms and not the players that made the diff.

Yep, that must be it, ALL who pressed alb on the realm selection screen must be a ->

For me it has been tons of fun in NF compared to OF.

You can actually choose your poison in NF, I can get solo action if I want to,
I can also find, 2v2, 2vX, FGs and zergs.

In OF my poor little gimped wiz was just farmed by high RR hibs.
And it did not help that I was new to the game either.
But I guess that made me a

Today I realise how much easier it is to meet a new player, me and a cabby
can dispatch of a FG without problem if they are low RR or inexperienced players. (and I am no RR king either)

No wonder you had a ton of fun killing of 50 soloing albs running like chickens
in a zerg near old amg.

Its all about time and effort put into the game.

 

[Bracken]

Agree on that NF scene is not used, yes prolly right there. But i do think its designed for 3k+ ppl not 1500.

Yes that's probably true - so the fact pop is lower and fewer people are roaming means finding good fg fights is harder now. But that's player behaviour (or people not playing) that's the problem - not the zone itself. Remember quite a lot of people have left to try WoW too...so combine that with people leaving because of the siege-fest of the first few weeks and we have a low pop issue. Bottom line for me is that if the pop recovers to 2500+ then I think the NF complaints will go away, providing a proportion of that returning pop chooses to roam. Time will tell if it will ofc


(And no I wasn't pointing the finger at you )

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

hibs had gp, mids had instacc, alb had OP bof/sos - yet no alb grp used it. but i guess its still the realms and not the players that made the diff.

Hibs had 2 GP in each grp
Mids had 2(3) * 4 isntant CC in each grp
Albs had 2 * BoF + maybe 1 SOS in grp aswell

BoF helps VS tanks, no doubt uber vs tanks.... hibs ran with caster grps mainly...
SOS helps to to get out of range of tanks/nukers fast, and helped melee assist trains to catch up, nice (but every 30 mins tho)

Hibs had 2* GP + Purge on each char(maybe) that is something that change a fight for sure, GP + Mezz and hibs are in lead again...

Mids insant CC, when ever I nuked a healer with my wiz I got some kind of instant mezz/stun in my face + they have 3 speadhealers(6 * instant heals) in grp so u have trouble killing them anyway, and a savage could 2 shot my wiz with in 1.5 sec anyway.

 

[Dorin]

Mids insant CC, when ever I nuked a healer with my wiz I got some kind of instant mezz/stun in my face + they have 3 speadhealers(6 * instant heals) in grp so u have trouble killing them anyway, and a savage could 2 shot my wiz with in 1.5 sec anyway.

2-3 slash merc on a svg = dead svg tho

 

[vintervargen]

i dont see why the only ppl discussing the bof/sos issue are random albs who never played in a good alb group.

again, from bof/sos we go to -> AD/PE

"mids/hibs on prydwen suxx"

no, clicking the alb icon gives you skill m8z!!

 

[Kalba]

OF sucked. NF rocks

You could set up your own OF event though.

Get all three realms to participate:

Step 1: Sit on the portal pad in your portal keep for 10 minutes.

Step 2: Take a boat to emain macha.

Hibs take Crauchon island, albs take the west bridge, mids the east.

No use of water allowed once you're there - all traffic must cross the bridges. No moving into the keeps, no siege weaponry allowed.

Not sure how you could recreate the old-style RAs though.

BIggest bunch of bullshit I've seen in awhile

 

[Kalba]

the leet FG'ers didnt realise that if they all leave its ofc not gonna be much fg fights, if they all stayed it would be the same

no since the areas are far more wide, and "highways" dont exist...

 

[Baldrian]

Yep, that must be it, ALL who pressed alb on the realm selection screen must be a ->

For me it has been tons of fun in NF compared to OF.

You can actually choose your poison in NF, I can get solo action if I want to,
I can also find, 2v2, 2vX, FGs and zergs.

In OF my poor little gimped wiz was just farmed by high RR hibs.
And it did not help that I was new to the game either.
But I guess that made me a

I so totally agree.

 

[Bracken]

no since the areas are far more wide, and "highways" dont exist...

Yes there are more areas, but there are also lots of obvious "channels" where fg action could become common (if enough people were up for it). It's just easier to jump on the OF rox/ NF sux bandwagon though

 

[majik]

Yes there are more areas, but there are also lots of obvious "channels" where fg action could become common (if enough people were up for it). It's just easier to jump on the OF rox/ NF sux bandwagon though

If these channels are that obvious you'd have 10 stealthers camping there to add.

 

[Calo]

Yes there are more areas, but there are also lots of obvious "channels" where fg action could become common (if enough people were up for it). It's just easier to jump on the OF rox/ NF sux bandwagon though

But some ppl just do like OF more then NF.

And yes they are normal ppl.

 

[Flimgoblin]

BIggest bunch of bullshit I've seen in awhile

it's exactly how OF was for me at least emain anyway

 

[Flimgoblin]

odins gate/ hadrians wall?, used to be a lot of action there and very few opted 8 man grps. Most of the time it was great fun to either solo or duo there. (with the exception of the hib steathzergs at hmg occasionaly)

every time I went to odins there were 2fg hibs/mids camping amg or 7fg albs in odins and nothing to kill.

occasionally there was 10fg of mids on a keep retake

I tried soloing a few times, got flattened - emain atk->amg was far more fun for solo (except when you had a fg hib/mid gank group running circles between atk->amg scaring off all the stealthers)

HW was dead 90% of the time. When it wasn't it was fun, but that was rare.

Now a year or two ago it was different... just prior to NF it was god awful.

 

[vintervargen]

i'd like to know where you find your 1vs1 fights in NF flim

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

i'd like to know where you find your 1vs1 fights in NF flim

around brynje bridge xD not too close.

 

[Bracken]

But some ppl just do like OF more then NF.

No doubt - but most of the reasons people give for NF being worse are about how it is used, not the zone itself, or their memories of OF are rose-tinted.

 

[vintervargen]

bracken, any further response on the PE/AD issue? seems all the OP classes are found in albion on prydwen..

 

[Kelio]

2-3 slash merc on a svg = dead svg tho

and how do you fit in 3 slash mercs in a alb group?

you need atleast.

sorc
sorc
pally
cabby
cleric
cleric
theurg
wizard

to even start comparing against mid/hib groups... oh damn, guess the mercs didnt fit in to the group, unless ofcourse we can cut down on the healers? (1 cleric vs. 3 healers) or ofcourse 1 sorc (though shit for the group if he gets mezzed since noone can demezz the others) or perhaps the cabby. (well why even bother to ns them? they probably got their ns off first) or interrupters (theurg why have a theurg. he wont get of a single pet when bards keep aoe interrupt) so i guess we just have to get rid of the only real dmg dealer in alb. /kicks the wizz to get 1 merc in group.