o0mg lol tbh WTF??

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ok so a few too many word shortenings in the title but it really explains how i felt when i heard this

in the uk some councils are banning the word christmas when they put up lights decorations etc in december because it might offend some non christian people living here, they are going to be winter celebration decorations or some crap, now is it just me or is this taking things a tad too far?

im not a christian but i do celebrate christmas, and as much as some people want to deny it the uk is actually a christian country, christmas is a tradition so old it seems (to me) horrendous to ban the word its part of OUR culture fgs, and a lot of small shops run by asian/arabic people do sell christmas cards etc.

This is just a theory of mine but it seems to me the councils that do this sort of thing should be done for inciting racial hatered themselves because when i hear that they are banning christmas it makes me feel resentful towards THEM, not the muslims or sieks (eep sp?) or anyone else, its just my thought but by doing things like this the media and the government are making people more hateful towards the people that are said to be offended by it, if i was in a muslim country i wouldnt feel offended by them celebrating their cultral traditions (unless one of them was to impale small red heads on sticks and throw marsh mallows at them, that might make me a bit uneasy tbh).

needed to vent my spleen about this cos it sucks, big time, so to all the PC do gooders out there i say this "Bloody well bugger off and keep your sodding noses out of everyone elses business!!!:twak: "

thankyou and good night.
 

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...They are BANNING the word Christman?
This is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard :eek6:
 
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lol thats fucking ridiculous, don't see anyway at all they could get away with something like that,
 

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Equador said:
...They are BANNING the word Chr****an?
This is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard :eek6:
sssh.. speak not of that word!
 

Ame

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Can we refrain from swearing on the forum please.
 

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it's christmas, and how sad is society becoming if we can't openly celecrate what we've done for years and years.
 

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leviathane said:
it's christmas, and how sad is society becoming if we can't openly celecrate what we've done for years and years.
I think two thousand years (or so) is a bit longer (in comparison) to 'years and years'.
 

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doubt it to be realistically 2 thousand years but if peeps are believers then good for them, that's the beauty of an open society. The idea is not to opress ppl.
 

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Banning the word Christmas is opression tbh.

I don't believe in religion at all, but I respect people's beliefs. And actually banning a word that is linked with a religous holiday is downright disrespectful.
 

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Ame said:
I think two thousand years (or so) is a bit longer (in comparison) to 'years and years'.
Christmas, as it currently is celebrated ain't older then the roman empire, and not even the start of the roman empire. Don't know exactly how long however, christmas, or rather the celebration used to be a pagan celebration of many many cultures because the days starten to lengthen again from December 22'nd on. Summer and Winter solstices etc.
That's where the lights come from. On the darkest day of the year, to light candles to make it a bit brighter etc (more to it in the ancient believes, but cba writing that all up. Search wikipedia if you wanna know) :)
 

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When I said or so, I didn't mean longer then two thousand years since that's when Jesus Christ was (apparently) born thus starting this whole celebration thing?
 

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Ame said:
When I said or so, I didn't mean longer then two thousand years since that's when Jesus Christ was (apparently) born thus starting this whole celebration thing?

nah.. it changed it a bit, but didn't start it.... like I said, before it was christmas, the celebrations were there aswell, as solstice celebrations.. return of the sun etc. and that goes back WÁY further then 2000 years... :)
 

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Outlander said:
WTF is that!! :/

And aye.. I mean ffs... banning christmas... man.. omg.. wtf?.... omg... can't even say/ describe/ tell... wtf... IT'S JUST A HOLIDAY!!! Infact, nowadays it's got little to do with christianity anymore... I mean, tell me the connection between christianity and that big fat dude in that red suit.. and raindeers? how do they link back to bethlehem? they used donkeys afaik.. now that could link to shrek, so I'd say, change the Fat Jolly Ho-ho-scryer for a Fat Grumpy Green fella with weird ears and a mike myers voice saying "Donkey!!!!" would actually make more sense......
 

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Ingafgrinn Macabre said:
nah.. it changed it a bit, but didn't start it.... like I said, before it was christmas, the celebrations were there aswell, as solstice celebrations.. return of the sun etc. and that goes back WÁY further then 2000 years... :)
I'm talking about the actual "Christmas", as in the one that involves "Christ" (thus forming the word Christmas).
 

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Anyone offended by the word Christmas should fuck off home so they dont have to hear it.
 

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Banning christmas is no less a racist act as banning the praying to mecca would be. It is so far beyond political correctness that if we aren't careful, people will start being arrested for saying 'hi' to the wrong person...
 

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as far as i know christmas is celebrated allmost all the countryes in the world.
this celebration has gone out of its religous grounds. most ppl dont even go to church (like me) at christmas and they dont really give a damn about it. its just a great excuse to give and get presents.

banning the word christmas is idiotic
 

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That´s by far the most ridiculous thing I`ve heard in a while. Denying your own cultural background and roots to avoid stepping on the toes of those people with a different cultural background? That accomplishes what exactly?
We´re celebrating the birthday of a guy that happened to be born some odd 2000 years ago.. sorry, that´s the fact and the facts won´t go away if you´re trying to cover them behind euphemisms.

However, a friend of mine is living in NYC and apparently, it´s common courtesy to NOT say Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year over there (for exactly that reason.. too many other cultures living there, chances of accidentally stepping on someone´s toes).

In Eastern Germany, which was unter communist reign since the end of WW2, all kinds of religious references and aspects were banned as well. They were officially celebrating "Year End" (Jahresendfeier)... and they even took it a step further. A christmastree-angel wasn´t officially a christmastree-angel, but "Year-End-winged-doll" (Jahresend-Fkügelfigur) instead. :)
 

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its stupid and its racist to ban the name christmas. if they tried to ban any other religions names there would be an uproar.
Thats what you get for voting wankers into power though :)
 

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This whole thing is a load of bollocks, i dont go round complaining for muslims to not wear funny face masks, i also dont care if jew's wanna have a 7 day hannuka or however you spell it.

You know that scene in die hard 3 where Bruce Willis is swearing at Samuel L Jackson just after they were being shot at, he curbs his tongue mid flame and Sam L J says "you were gonna call me a n1gg3r". Bruce then tells him that he is not racist.....but in actual fact Sam is racist, thinking the worst of white people.

What im getting at is the so called minorities are the ones kicking up a fuss claiming about discrimination etc, when in actual fact they are treated same as everyone else yet they still play the "ooh im a minority you have to not offend me and do what i want" card.

If an Arsenal fan went to the old trafford and sat in the home seats shouting "blub blub im arsenal you have to be nice and not wear your shirts or cheer your team" he would not change anyone's mind. If you move to a country you have to learn to adapt, if you dont want to then you at least have to understand the country works how it has for years.

in 10 years you wont have any alchohol as muslims cant drink, all meat will have to be killed in whatever way the jewish people do, also you cant have any events incase someone is offended.

I see it like this, you move to a country and you learn to live with how things work, if you were born here then you still have to understand that the country works in a particular way....no one forces anyone to stay in England.

Im against racism, but im also against the minorities using racism as a weapon
 

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many non-christians (atheists, pagans, muslims etc) 'celebrate' christmas. it is a reason for the family to come together and eat loads of food. i dont understand why they are banning the word.
 

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things like this make me want to vote for BNP. i swear things like this will one day TURN me racist because i just cannot stand whats happening in this country. ive got no problem with people comeing to live in britain if they are having a hard time elsewhere. but if you come here then you should fucking respect that this is OUR country, not try and extend it to become a part of yours?

like i said, there are people who come over to britain and work hard and just get on with their lives like anyone else, fair play to you, welcome to britain. and i fully understand that there ARE problems with racism that need to be sorted out. this rant isnt aimed at them.

this rant is aimed at the whiners and the slackers. i read a story a while ago, i cant remember where, but a family from the middle east that had some watered down royal blood, or royal connections or something. they were no longer welcome in their country because they had supported a local militias raids on towns and cities, and since then the militia had lost power and this family was in danger. so they run to england and the english government (for reasons that escape me) gave them a mansion, several acres of land etc free as compensation. (compensation for WHAT?)

they complained their mansion wasnt big enough.


things like that just spark something inside me that triggers all kinds of hate. and i dont think im the only one.

i could go on, but im pretty sure im about to be banned for this already.
 

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Jjuraa said:
things like this make me want to vote for BNP. i swear things like this will one day TURN me racist because i just cannot stand whats happening in this country. ive got no problem with people comeing to live in britain if they are having a hard time elsewhere. but if you come here then you should fucking respect that this is OUR country, not try and extend it to become a part of yours?

like i said, there are people who come over to britain and work hard and just get on with their lives like anyone else, fair play to you, welcome to britain. and i fully understand that there ARE problems with racism that need to be sorted out. this rant isnt aimed at them.

this rant is aimed at the whiners and the slackers. i read a story a while ago, i cant remember where, but a family from the middle east that had some watered down royal blood, or royal connections or something. they were no longer welcome in their country because they had supported a local militias raids on towns and cities, and since then the militia had lost power and this family was in danger. so they run to england and the english government (for reasons that escape me) gave them a mansion, several acres of land etc free as compensation. (compensation for WHAT?)

they complained their mansion wasnt big enough.


things like that just spark something inside me that triggers all kinds of hate. and i dont think im the only one.

i could go on, but im pretty sure im about to be banned for this already.

Your post sums up exactly how I feel.
 

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CHRISTMAS, which takes it's name from Christ's Mass, was first celebrated on various dates from about 200 A.D. but was finally set on December 25 by Bishop Liberus of Rome in 354 A.D. The December date, which almost coincides with the winter solstice, became a popular festival of West Europe during the Middle Ages. But as late as the nineteenth century, Christmas celebration was suppressed in Scotland and England because of some religious differences.
 

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