NS spec questions

FallycSymbol

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Hey everyone, im beginning to doubt if blades or pierce spec works best for NS (RR6+) and debating whether or not to respec blades from piercing.
These are specs im considering (aiming for RR7):

33stealth/envenom
34 pierce/blades
50 CS
22 CD

or:

33stealth/envenom
34 pierce/blades
44 CS
32 CD

Would like your opinions on which of these would be most viable, they are based on tests done on US servers and seem like the best options for either blade or pierce shades. If i am completely wrong and might as well reroll plz tell me, but at least give me better alternatives :p
Thx in advance
 

Twist

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Based on Wyrd's testing in the US both are reasonable, although personally I'd go for the 2nd given the deminishing returns over 44 in a spec line. You may want to consider dropping env a little if you don't have viper (i'd keep the top str/con debuff tho) tho at RR7 viper 3 is definitely possible and I'd be tempted to try it out ;)

edit: ofc to be really uber just roll a ranger :p
 

FallycSymbol

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only heard that about 100 million times... damn fotm rangers, its about time they taste the tip of the nerf stick

and ye, was kinda leaning towards the 2nd spec with higher CD, would fit into my QB much better if i leave out Ripper :p
 

Armonia

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FallycSymbol said:
only heard that about 100 million times... damn fotm rangers, its about time they taste the tip of the nerf stick

Sorry, just browsing old threads and this comment really made me laugh.

How many times did Rangers / Archers not only tasted the tip of the nerf stick but actually got hit by a home run!

OK, they were overpowered in the begining, got nerfed to almost nothing and now they're top again! It's not their fault, it's the dumbass way Mythic do things, and after a few years you kinda get used to it :p

Oh, and I play a NS RvR in Excal so I'm spitting as much as anyone when a Scout or Hunter pwns me with ease :puke: (I'm only just RR3) but you gotta just pick yourself up, dust down and get on with it :) I'm sure a nerf is incoming and it'll be waaaay over the top again so let em have their day while it lasts :fluffle:

That's gross, the puke one has some squirting out of his nose!! :eek6:
 

Ogen

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Only thing they shouldnt have done is give FZ to rangers/minsers/scouts etc .. CC´classes only imo.. Me killing a nightshade in duel is just player skills ;) Rangers arent OP in the way i see it.. FZ is tho.. And PA chain still blows a ranger away, but that is why we got MoS ;)
 

Twist

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Ogen said:
but that is why we got MoS ;)

Personally I'd like to see passive stealth detection removed from the game completely, it's never been balanced (i'm going back to when see hidden came in here) and doesn't look likely to be in the near future :(
 

angrysquirrel

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actually nothing has changed for rangers other than getting rf and that sureshot thing in about 2 years. so there was nothing really to speak off about a home run since the nerf bat and afaik they were not overpowered, just everyone had shit resists from day 1. the only thats changed is peoples opinions ?

spec 2 btw :)
 

Gravediggah

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FallycSymbol said:
Hey everyone, im beginning to doubt if blades or pierce spec works best for NS (RR6+) and debating whether or not to respec blades from piercing.
These are specs im considering (aiming for RR7):

33stealth/envenom
34 pierce/blades
50 CS
22 CD

or:

33stealth/envenom
34 pierce/blades
44 CS
32 CD

Would like your opinions on which of these would be most viable, they are based on tests done on US servers and seem like the best options for either blade or pierce shades. If i am completely wrong and might as well reroll plz tell me, but at least give me better alternatives :p
Thx in advance



Both specs do work decent however my personal thoughts are.

If think you should stick with 50CD,Perhaps my best tip is once you there hit test server and duel infil/sb or what you now can come across,I did alot of tests before i actually decided what direction i should face my :kissit: at.

If you win or loose dosent matter really,But it will tell you alot of vital info how ur spec work
 
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My own spec is 34 blades 33 or 34 cd, 21 env, 33 stealth and 50 CS.

I think it works quiet well. Maxed CS b/c i wanted the most dmg i could get from my CS styles - and raise PA dmg abit. Caps at 922 iirc
21 env = 38 with all pluses. Get 2nd best str/con debuff and 2nd best disease ( lasts longer but still same str debuff value / % as all the others )

Shouldnt worry too mutch about having to use ripper ppl will be dead b4 u get to it anyway and if not dead u missed, got parried, evaded or got blocked b4 u could use it :p
 

Vodkafairy

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50 effective stealth
47 effective env
51 effective pierce
44 cs
rest cd

purge2, mos3, mop3, str2, dex2, con2, toughness2, aom2, vanish 1 at rr7

dual legendaries

:wub:

ps. i know what im talking about, but cba writing a 5000 word story again :p
 

Twist

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Vodkafairy said:
50 effective stealth
47 effective env
51 effective pierce
44 cs
rest cd

purge2, mos3, mop3, str2, dex2, con2, toughness2, aom2, vanish 1 at rr7

dual legendaries

:wub:

ps. i know what im talking about, but cba writing a 5000 word story again :p

Same as me except i'm only RR5L6 so less passives
 

Gesta

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51 pierce
50 envenom (lifebane+viper3 really does rock my world and all those mincers that try running off)
44 cs
50 stealth
rest cd

vanish, mos3, other bits n pieces, i dont bother with purge atm
 

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