News Now that's funny!

[Scouse]

European Court on Human Rights finds keeping people's fingerprints could not be regarded as necessary in a democratic society, shocker!!

"Innocent" people should now be able to apply to get their fingerprints and DNA removed from government database.

But, more importantly, if the above is true (and the ruling can't be overturned) then it must be true for ID cards.

Yep! That's right - keeping people's fingerprints/iris scans etc. is undemocratic

The government claims the DNA profile from people who are not convicted may sometimes be linked to later offences, so storing the details on the database is a proportionate response to tackling crime

You can claim it all you like you labour fucktards - but you're officially WRONG!

Queue the Labour government doing FUCK and ALL about it, and half the people on this forum still loving the ID card idea...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Does the ID card store dna, fingerprints etc?

I thought the ID card planned on your isle is just for social number etc.

 

[Scouse]

Thought you'd be first to post

Yes, they want fingerprints and iris scans of every man woman and child in the UK. DNA was in scope but isn't any more. Fingerprints still are...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Thought you'd be first to post

Yes, they want fingerprints and iris scans of every man woman and child in the UK. DNA was in scope but isn't any more. Fingerprints still are...

Grr...i'm just asking!

So, take fingerprints and scans off and put ID cards back on table. Fixed!

 

[dysfunction]

Interesting court case...still wont stop the ID card idea though...In fact it may make it more appealing to people if it no longer stores DNA/Fingerprints etc

 

[Scouse]

So, take fingerprints and scans off and put ID cards back on table. Fixed!

Why bother then? We've already got drivers licences, birth certificates, passports etc. etc. etc...

I'm not up for this country spunking several billions of our pounds on a waste of time and undemocratic system...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Why bother then? We've already got drivers licences, birth certificates, passports etc. etc. etc...

I'm not up for this country spunking several billions of our pounds on a waste of time and undemocratic system...

If i could have all my info on one card, instead of passport, id, health insurance card etc etc, i would. It's just handy all the way round.

Undemocratic only if the undemocratic stuff is added

 

[Scouse]

Insecure then. Having all that information on one card is inherently insecure and worse for ID theft and the likes.

It's a pointless waste-of-money exercise. We don't need them, most of us don't want them, they're expensive and without the biometrics we've already got all the ID we need...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Guess it depends on how paranoid one is, well, paranoid is too harsh a word.

I just don't think about things that might happen like that. Hell, governments have nukes and someone MIGHT steal one and blow up all the macDs in the world, i still get my quarterpounder like always

 

[`mongoose]

tbfh.

M

 

[Scouse]

Guess it depends on how paranoid one is, well, paranoid is too harsh a word.

Fuck all to do with that. The whole POINT of the ID card scheme is the biometrics. Without them it's point-LESS....

Geddit?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Fuck all to do with that. The whole POINT of the ID card scheme is the biometrics. Without them it's point-LESS....

Geddit?

But wasn't the whole POINT of the argument against ID cards the possibility of ID theft and lost data? so paranoia is pretty much POINT.

I'm saying, a card that puts drivers lisence, passport, medical history and all such things to ONE card, is a good thing.

You can't argue it isn't.

 

[MYstIC G]

Don't start this shit again. If you two are gonna go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth PM each other

For what it's worth, I agree with Scouse. However, "being wrong" hasn't stopped a government before and neither has "being illegal" (Dr. David Kelly anyone?).

I don't want a card, I don't need a card and moreover if I'm forced to pay for one in my eyes it will be theft by the state.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Don't start this shit again. If you two are gonna go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth PM each other

Have to remember not to discuss things in a discussion forum :lol:

 

[MYstIC G]

The key word being "things" not 8 million posts on the same point over and over and over.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The key word being "things" not 8 million posts on the same point over and over and over.

I could, but i won't comment on that

Fair enough though, it's not like opinions change around here.

 

[Scouse]

I'm saying, a card that puts drivers lisence, passport, medical history and all such things to ONE card, is a good thing.

You can't argue it isn't.

I can and already have, reread the previous posts rather than ignoring them.

And to keep meg happy this is the last post I'll make here

 

[old.Tohtori]

I can and already have, reread the previous posts rather than ignoring them.

I don't ignore them

But, you wouldn't want one card to rule them all, i would. We're done discussing this anyway

 

[dysfunction]

tbfh.

M

 

[Tom]

Whenever I see Jacquie Smith's face, I want to hit it with a piece of 2x4. I know its not the PC thing to say, but can you imagine her face being whacked with a piece of wood, filmed on one of those 1000fps cameras?

I'd laugh.

 

[Ch3tan]

But wasn't the whole POINT of the argument against ID cards the possibility of ID theft and lost data? so paranoia is pretty much POINT.

I'm saying, a card that puts drivers lisence, passport, medical history and all such things to ONE card, is a good thing.

You can't argue it isn't.

If you think it is a good thing to have all your personal info centralised, then fly Brown and co over to your neck of the woods and let them fuck it up instead of here.

 

[nath]

Whenever I see Jacquie Smith's face, I want to hit it with a piece of 2x4. I know its not the PC thing to say, but can you imagine her face being whacked with a piece of wood, filmed on one of those 1000fps cameras?

I'd laugh.

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Tom again."

I've got a fierce mental image of her being whacked in the face now .

 

[Raven]

Whenever I see Jacquie Smith's face, I want to hit it with a piece of 2x4. I know its not the PC thing to say, but can you imagine her face being whacked with a piece of wood, filmed on one of those 1000fps cameras?

I'd laugh.

Repeatedly

With the odd slow mo section.

Possibly have an after event interview too.


Though I think it would have more artistic merit if it was one of those 2 foot floppy dildos

and Alistair Darling in an industrial sugar boiler, you work in filming stuff don't you? Can't you have a word with producer types? I see a new line in Saturday night family TV.

Actually me and a mate were discussing how good it would be to have Gordon Brown let loose in the woods in nothing but pair of stained underpants, a 100 yard head start and a pack of hungry, horny Alsations

 

[Scouse]

Whenever I see Jacquie Smith's face, I want to hit it with a piece of 2x4. I know its not the PC thing to say, but can you imagine her face being whacked with a piece of wood, filmed on one of those 1000fps cameras?

Surely someone will grace us with the magic of photoshop?!