Noob question on what class

[Matmardigan]

my god, some of u playin this game more than 2 years and u guys still dont know that the BEST Char in game is a Avalonian Paladin

so make1

 

[Belomar]

I reiterate, if you are making a Mage, roll a Saracen to counter Luris with 80 starting dex. Cast speed is everything, regardless of whether you are a mind sorc, a body sorc, or a cabalist.

 

[eggy]

Body sorc in my opinion, probably the highest utility. Inconnu 10 dex, con, int.

Great fun too!

 

[Spyf]

I dont care what you roll Glottis, as long as its a sorc or a cabby to fight along with me against vicious enemy's in the frontiers.
Wellcome back Mr. Addict

 

[Extraterestrial]

If you roll a mage then must be Saracen, faster cast speed rule.

 

[Red HATred]

HMMM
my PoV
not that one cares, but just had the time to write a bit


caster: only real thing is power... not speed. Speed can be compensated using different types of things... High intelligence characters are a must. Don't lower yourselfe to the Intelligence level of platewearers , they can'"t help it, they've been bashed brainless in that tinn can. (=user)

why do i think power is the most important thing: well, the % bonus and the basic power bonus really doesn't make much off a difference. ( a little bit, ok).
Realmskill wise , as it is now , you need to invest tons of realmskillpnts to get some power add on a "decent" level. (mcl, int requirements, wild power etc...)

Prospects for future: I think it is verry important to learn how to play without moc and purge etc... because only the verry high RR propably will respec into that system using the new skillsystem. Will have to read up on it... to confirm that

cabalist: verry nice class, no personal xp on that matter. Only lack i can find in them is the blue con pet... wich is pretty tough buffed up. Lifetap + stun pets are a nice level combo, debuffing own damage etc..nice, but if they are efficient, i can't tell.

Sorc: best class if you want to do what you like. The diversity given by this class is so huge. I mean the way you play that type of character. And what all ppl say about a spec type.. most peeps just go for the top damage...
they just love saying: " oooo i nuked for xxx-hundred but otherwise i'm just a piece off crap that can't handle anything unless i'm zerging or grouped, don't ask me to go PVE because i can't /cry"
So going to high in body, like most FOTM sorc are, will make you a nice nuker but you will lose reliable utility on other matters. What i mean with reliable is that the level of used stuff (magic) is high enough to get a decent result. Not every spell has to be purple conned to be effective on targets.

wizards: They are the hardest class to use. Usability in rvr : offensive wizards, Long range AOE+bolts in fire spec line, pbaoe+some stupid ice nukes.. in ice line.

Don't spec ice, the power usage on magic is way to high to be a character that nukes long enough to be effective. And in a couple off months we'll be able to /laugh at all the morons that REspecced into Ice and betrayed the path of fire . They will never be a true-heart fire caster... again. (even with fire skill at 50 they are zerg leeching wankers, those icy-i'm-the-centre-of-attention-gimps. TRAITORS THEY ARE)

defensive wizard... : magic word here again is power.... you need to last long.. playing a wizzy ain't: just rush in > pbaoe> pboae> die... (woohoo 2000 rps.. i'm good.../laugh : lying face down in the dirt :-s )
No , that is the ice wizard spec , a real wizard observes, positions, assistS offence (if any).

wizzys need good groups>>>> solo play = 0

so a caster... dex can be given through buffs and TOA cwap, int. you may considder going for a charater where you added con at creation time



to conclude.. no matter what you want , you are the sole person that knows what playing style he/she prefers. Answer to what is needed: Nothing is needed, all is usefull.
you deceide what feels good for you, nothing is wrong with testing. But don't play things other ppl suggest, you could get dissapointed.
So my comment above here, as stated is my PoV, not something you have to do

ok,

cheers

 

[Wiro]

Given up on that silly thing called 'work' then, Glottis?

 

[Thorwyn]

So going to high in body, like most FOTM sorc are, will make you a nice nuker but you will lose reliable utility on other matters.

Going to high in body means what in your notebook?

 

[Glottis]

@ Red HATred - Thanks for the long post I do feel speed is more important than power, as once you start nuking first, you normally will win

@ Belomar - I hate the idea of a saracen, I was thinking of a small inconnu. I will check what the difference will be in dex between inconnu, luri, and saracen.

@ Wiro - Nah, still doing that, but I think I can combine the 2

Thanks for all the input
Regards, Glottis

 

[Pin]

You can get 380+ dex on a 60 base dex class in NF without much trouble and you'll be fine on speed (okay - a little bit of trouble, as it needs good gear and some RAs ). I'd still choose anything other than Avalonian though

 

[Wiro]

Btw, I'd go for body sorc rather than cabby if I were you Glottis.. more fun nuking stuff for way too much than being some sorc's debuffslut

 

[Red HATred]

You can get 380+ dex on a 60 base dex class in NF without much trouble and you'll be fine on speed (okay - a little bit of trouble, as it needs good gear and some RAs ). I'd still choose anything other than Avalonian though

bah bah, we should praise the avalonians
ok, they split in two if you push em around, but if it weren't for that dirty old Avalonian who had a go at one of the ogres, In some other way then fighting, we wouldn't have gotten our Half ogres

 

[Belomar]

caster: only real thing is power... not speed.

No. I don't agree, and you don't present a valid argument for your case either. Having capped cast speed is vital in many cases, especially if you are a sorcerer.

well, the % bonus and the basic power bonus really doesn't make much off a difference. ( a little bit, ok).

Personally, I think an extra 25% power is quite a huge thing in the scheme of things. Certainly much more than your extra intelligence bonus from being an Avalonian gives you.

Realmskill wise , as it is now , you need to invest tons of realmskillpnts to get some power add on a "decent" level. (mcl, int requirements, wild power etc...)

Wild Power doesn't affect your power. It increases your chance to crit on your nukes. I think you need to do some more studying.

And in a couple off months we'll be able to /laugh at all the morons that REspecced into Ice and betrayed the path of fire . They will never be a true-heart fire caster... again. (even with fire skill at 50 they are zerg leeching wankers, those icy-i'm-the-centre-of-attention-gimps. TRAITORS THEY ARE)

Hmm, I am detecting some repressed hate here, perhaps a little over the top?

But don't play things other ppl suggest, you could get dissapointed.

Um, he asked for advice, we gave it. Do you even read what you write?

 

[eggy]

HMMM
my PoV
not that one cares

I completely agree.

caster: only real thing is power... not speed.

Sheer, utter, bollocks.

power bonus really doesn't make much off a difference. ( a little bit, ok).

I'd say 25% power bonus made about 25% difference...ish.

I think it is verry important to learn how to play without moc and purge

GL not needing MoC and Purge with no cast-speed.

cabalist: Only lack i can find in them is the blue con pet... wich is pretty tough buffed up.

Contradiction?

most peeps just go for the top damage...

Maybe most people in barrows.

they just love saying: " oooo i nuked for xxx-hundred but otherwise i'm just a piece off crap that can't handle anything unless i'm zerging or grouped, don't ask me to go PVE because i can't /cry"

Didn't understand this bit.

you will lose reliable utility on other matters ... not every spell has to be purple conned to be effective on targets.

Contradiction. Skitzo?

wizards: They are the hardest class to use.

Bollocks.

Don't spec ice, the power usage on magic is way to high to be a character that nukes long enough to be effective. And in a couple off months we'll be able to /laugh at all the morons that REspecced into Ice and betrayed the path of fire . They will never be a true-heart fire caster... again. (even with fire skill at 50 they are zerg leeching wankers, those icy-i'm-the-centre-of-attention-gimps. TRAITORS THEY ARE)

wtf are you going on about?

defensive wizard...

lol?

playing a wizzy ain't: just rush in > pbaoe> pboae> die...

Well obviously it is if you have no cast speed bonus.

Nothing is needed

Good luck in emain without clerics.

 

[Red HATred]

Um, he asked for advice, we gave it. Do you even read what you write?

and i advice to try things out, have fun.
and yes, i read what i write... my PoV ...do you even read what other ppl write? Or do you just find pleasure in critisizing?

eggy : get laid.

 

[eggy]

eggy : get laid.

If you can't take criticism, you really shouldn't post on the forum to be honest. I just don't want some poor sod to think the things you say are correct.

 

[elbeek]

TBH, if we were to follow fartypants spec lines we would all be HO fire wizz ( cast speed dont matter ).

Ironfart, your posts amuse me, please keep it up. BTW wtf does =user mean?

I was interested in your defensive wizard pov...I take it that entails running like a girl? I guess all the high rr ice wizzies are just plain dumb, shame u didnt roll on hib first, would you use a defensive pbaoe cell there?

Interested in your sig...the secret project..is that like a HO matter sorc or summat?

 

[Red HATred]

i notice they have just brought milk to the kindergarten..... synergy has awoken

 

[elbeek]

i notice they have just brought milk to the kindergarten..... synergy has awoken

Yup.

Unlike you, we sleep. Maybe its the sleep deprivation that makes you such an angry gimp...then again...................

 

[Generation]

Roll a saracen or inconnu mind sorc imo, 44 mind 31 body.

Sod the fotm, i can nuke big and forget that pansy mezzing crap, body spec.

If all you wanna do is nuke big then roll a fire wizz and go run with one of the 100000 body sorcs and force em to debuff for you Otherwise, a mind sorc is fun to play and is normally the deciding factor on whether your group wins or loses.