Noob question on what class

Glottis

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I was thinking of making a mind specced sorc, but reading how det and aom will work in NF I doubt it will be an improvement of how it works right now, along with purge every 15 mins.
So what class is usefull in a group besides a cleric, minstrel or a theurg?
Keeping in mind the upcoming changes with NF of course.
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Stinkie

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From what I've rwead on NF either fire wiz, scout or merc seem the best.
 

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Never ever roll an archer in DAoC unless you enjoy watching your char get more and more useless with every patch.

I would recommend Body sorc or Ice wiz tbh as these are both fotm. Melee chars are in less demand in RvR as everyone is currently focusing on caster groups.
With NF range becomes more important so casters will still be good.
 

Glottis

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Archer is not an option :)
The latest nerf (volley no longer penetrates bladeturn....) does not matter much but it is the just Mythic and their hate campaign against the poor little scout class :)
Fire wiz would be first time anybody said that. Body sorc I do like, specially as a small inconnu. 45 body, 29mind I guess. The idea of an ice wiz also appeals to me, less of a support char, but mostly damage dealer. Simple to play :) Body sorc you still have to do some stuff ;)
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Well, in my experience recently, pallies and mincers are well loved in 40+ groups at least.

Two of the only classes I haven't played .... ho hum!

I think ice wizzies are well like additions to a group, providing the group already has a pally / mincer / cleric combo.
 

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Pala's are fun to play, but one of the hardest in rvr imo.
And after a while i can become a bit boring since pala's mostly have to provide end and protect the casters / healers
 

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Glottis said:
Archer is not an option :)
The latest nerf (volley no longer penetrates bladeturn....) does not matter much but it is the just Mythic and their hate campaign against the poor little scout class :)
Regards, Glottis

the fact you get MoC 2 for free next patch is obviously just a nerf in disguise ;)
roll a wizard, you'll probably appreciate your archer more :)
 

Glottis

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Flimgoblin said:
the fact you get MoC 2 for free next patch is obviously just a nerf in disguise ;)
roll a wizard, you'll probably appreciate your archer more :)

Don't ruin my dreams!
OMFG, archer loving!
Cabby is also an option, spirit one that is :)
So far a body sorc, ice wiz, or a spirit cabby really :)
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everyone seems to act like NF is gonna nerf PB. In all my existance i have very rarely PBed people thru walls anyways.........

and whats this Free MOC2 BS ??

P.s. Dont roll an Icey :D
 

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ice wizards are unbareably shit to play in competative rvr sub rr5, you NEED MoC and the dmg RAs and possibly purge, else you simply cant do owt.
 

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Chilly said:
ice wizards are unbareably shit to play in competative rvr sub rr5, you NEED MoC and the dmg RAs and possibly purge, else you simply cant do owt.
Rubbish. You just can't do everything that you can at a higher Realm Rank... Just like every other class.

Bodyguard, Grapple, et al. make casters much more 'playable' and there's no way a wiz should be relying on MoC in standard fights.
 

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As long as ice wizzes are not as uber as chanters, they are bound to be "shit" :) But will keep them in mind :) I think theurgs are pretty uber, but there are enough of them.
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Tri-bolt wizz (41 fire, 35 earth), MoFocus 1, MoM all you can affort, 3 bolts, 2nd best gtaoe, weird, but it MIGHT works :drink:
 

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Clipse said:
everyone seems to act like NF is gonna nerf PB. In all my existance i have very rarely PBed people thru walls anyways.........

and whats this Free MOC2 BS ??

P.s. Dont roll an Icey :D

Why roll ice when you can be ubah three shotting peeps with fire :) Or if you want to be a keep defence place holder, then roll an earth wiz with gtaoe, that still works.
 

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I just respecced from body after a long time playing it, i didn't really consider going back to mind (I was originally 44 mind, 31 body) but since the new level 50 lifetap and insta str/con and high realm rank, this 44mind 31 body spec can be just as nasty as the 46+ body spec.

Bear in mind that i'm talking solely in a debuff group, i think with NF and the lower body debuff times the faster casting lifedrain will be ideal and the highest mezz will be minimum for providing at least some CC against tank groups (even if its just 5 seconds, that could be 2 people dead at least).

I will miss my dex/qui debuffs versus the casters, and their is a problem that this spec is a mana whore, but with raging power, mcl2 and tartaros, and an effective level of 50 body with +skill and rr this is a v nice spec.

Oh and it might be nice to have a level 50 pet again, i felt like a leper not being able to kill anything in ToA :(
 

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Aye don't be so quick to dismiss a mind sorc, the 44/31 spec is very nice.

Best bolt range mezz, there's some nice lvl50 pets around that can do more than just interrupt, nice str/con debuff that is effectively a large ae nuke, lvl50 lifetap can still hit pretty hard.

It's a fun spec that requires a lot more than the fotm /assist, debuff/nuke body spec :p
 

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Glottis said:
So far a body sorc, ice wiz, or a spirit cabby really :)
Guild is fine for ice wizzies really for now.

Sorc - spec of your choice - or spirit cabby imo :fluffle:
 

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Clipse said:
and whats this Free MOC2 BS ??

Sureshot in 1.69 - archers get uninterruptable (ok ok so they can be interrupted by melee still :p) but half damage - pretty much like MoC 2 for free ;) oh and without the timer...
 

Glottis

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AoM no longer stacks with determination I read, so mind is becoming more viable once again then if we look at CC.
But Draylor knows what the guild needs :)
Spirit cabby it will be then :)
Regards, Glottis
 

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aye glottis good playing ma for debuff grps is a must gl with your cabba :)
 

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we got the HO Merc Zerg in NF we need the Saracen Reaver Zerg!
 

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Whatever you do, if you roll a Mage (i.e. Sorcerer or Cabalist), make it a Saracen with +15 dex and +10 con or intelligence. Inconnu are okay too, I guess, but cast speed is everything and Saracens are really where it's at. In fact, there should be a big fat sign over the Avalonian race on the character creation screen, warning people about rolling them. :(
 

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if you want to roll a cc sorc roll saracen with 15 dex 10 con if you want body sorc or sp cab roll inconnu with 10dex 10con 10int.

id say make a reaver :)
 

Glottis

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Dawn said:
if you want to roll a cc sorc roll saracen with 15 dex 10 con if you want body sorc or sp cab roll inconnu with 10dex 10con 10int.

id say make a reaver :)

Reavers are allmost as hard to play as a minstrel :(
But they are a good class, yes :)
Regards, Glottis
 

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I would go body sorc great char for fun and util, can solo with ease or get groups easy as u say tho they r very hard work but overall great class.
Body sorc id go for the fish 10 con/dex/int.
 

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