non-casual toa whine

klavrynd

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just wondering, how many of you people that stopped would start again if you could transfer your char to a toa-free server
 

emma

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Its not so much the ToA stuff that annoy's. As some of it can actually be fun.

Although ask me the same question regarding New Frontiers in 6 months time i will say.

YES!
 

bashir

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hmmm... how can you answer "YES" on her question? should be a number or so (or "I would!).:twak:
 

Shike

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klavrynd said:
just wondering, how many of you people that stopped would start again if you could transfer your char to a toa-free server

hmm let me think 1s, yes, I would deffo move asap. Only good thing TOA brougt along was that silly op'd savagetrains got nerfed to hell, but the rest is pretty shit :<

Grapple, FZ, BG, Phase Shift etc.. tis just retarded tbh :( And I also feel sorry for all tanks in this Dark Age of Castalot. Not fun to have ones char turned into complete shit due to an expansion.
 

Miff

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Shike said:
hmm let me think 1s, yes, I would deffo move asap. Only good thing TOA brougt along was that silly op'd savagetrains got nerfed to hell, but the rest is pretty shit :<

Grapple, FZ, BG, Phase Shift etc.. tis just retarded tbh :( And I also feel sorry for all tanks in this Dark Age of Castalot. Not fun to have ones char turned into complete shit due to an expansion.

And i feel glad for all casters , for now they can be of use as well as tanks..

Toa whine is getting old....
 

Azathrim

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There is a reason people left the game, and its very rarely ToA itself - that's just the excuse people use to themself and others.

The game has been out for a long time. Many of those that left probably did so because they had grown tired of the game or couldn't adapt to the constant changes that is part of a MMORPG.

Couldn't adapt = Didn't like ToA.

Its fair and square, nothing wrong with it.
 

Morchaoron

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Azathrim said:
There is a reason people left the game, and its very rarely ToA itself - that's just the excuse people use to themself and others.

The game has been out for a long time. Many of those that left probably did so because they had grown tired of the game or couldn't adapt to the constant changes that is part of a MMORPG.

Couldn't adapt = Didn't like ToA.

Its fair and square, nothing wrong with it.

I adapted to ToA, its just that going to ml10 and getting all artis level 10 takes too much time and is extremely boring...

I will bring this char to ml10 with the best stuff i can get but theres no fucking way im ever making another characther

for me, ToA increased the characther level max from 50 to 80 in terms of time, and THATS why i dont like ToA

I dont mind changes but mythics 'changing' is just adding more crap no one is waiting for, i wonder whats in store for us in catacombs... another quickbar of semi-worthless bugged crap abilites?

you all know mythics famous quote:

Master levels will not affect RvR

yes m8s get ready to whine for catacombs
 

Ezteq

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i'd probably start playing again seeing as toa is a total arse to me, i spent sp long lvling me chars and getting good armour/weaps and then toa BAM its all useless ml's make it so its pointless going rvr with out them as everybody can kick my butt even worse now i think its a bloody shame that goa were willing to risk loosing long term players just to make some extra cash :touch:
 

Gahn

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Uhm

Shike said:
hmm let me think 1s, yes, I would deffo move asap. Only good thing TOA brougt along was that silly op'd savagetrains got nerfed to hell, but the rest is pretty shit :<

Grapple, FZ, BG, Phase Shift etc.. tis just retarded tbh :( And I also feel sorry for all tanks in this Dark Age of Castalot. Not fun to have ones char turned into complete shit due to an expansion.

We got rid of savages trains thanks to shit grapple and bg tbh ...
 

cougar

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game would die without toa, pve was nonexisting before toa. Pl in 2days, get sc and rvr gogo. Now atleast we got more pve endgame. cry more noobs!
 

ElemenT

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I wouldn't.. maybe if some of the old guys came back I'd renew just to logon from time to time, but otherwise.. no ty :)
 

DaggerElivager

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i'd come back if it meant no toa :D cos then i could go trhough the lvl'ing process knowing i not got weeks of more soddin pve to get to, to even stand a chance. Saying that i never stood much of a chance with mystik or dagger :p but i had fun playing them even if i died loads.
 

Garok

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It would have been a good expansion if they just got rid of the stuff that was just not fun, ie camping some spot for 7 hours waitng for a Mob to Pop, then gett'ing the scrolls, then spending days xp'ing the thing ;/

Would have been better is they ...

a) Changed the artifacts so each scroll unlocked 1/3 of the abilities of the artifact and getting rid of xping them for hours upon hours.

b) Changed the ML's so you just could do the ones that gave you the abilies you wanted.

c) Changed the Artifact Mobs to Quest based spawn's.
 

Smurflord

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Shike said:
And I also feel sorry for all tanks in this Dark Age of Castalot.

Funny how not so long ago people were whinging about it being Dark Age of Tankalot. The wheel turns.....


Of course the ideal solution would be to have real balance. I'm not happy with it leaning in either direction too heavily.
 

Bunnytwo

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I'd also like a server pre-RAs personally.

I like some aspects of ToA, but yep basically spawn rate and having to xp artis (or at least the slow rate at which some of em lvl) and ML are a pain in the butt.

Does seem to be shafting the casual player. You go through the grind of getting to 50, getting some decent kit and bam the goal posts have moved. Fair enough game may need to change, but someone who hasn't got the time or inclination to go through all the lvlling and ML's is screwed in RvR.
 

nuky

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loved the game pre-toa and would go back to it in a shot - just wish they would give a chance to move to another realm in that too
 

kain

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yeah I hate TOA too, it's freakin' nightmare for us casual gamers.

I wish they had just went with frontiers insteading of TOA and then worked on catacombs for the pve people to enjoy.
 

Morchaoron

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and artifact encounter reset should be 1 hour... cuz camping a spot 24/7 = such pve endgame yes m8s??? :m00:
 

Darksword

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make scrolls buy able from a merchant for reasonable prices, say 500g (read on catacombs that it had been done on one of the american servers?) make all artis xp NORMALLY! i mean wtfs with having 2 kill in a certain zone, or off certain mobs, just makes it boring as u need eithar A) a grp 2 help u lvl the item, B) a BB 2 lvl the arti or it will take too long and just bore u 2 death. where as if it lvls everywhere off everything u could easily join a DF farming grp so it levels faster and its always more fun grouping.

artis should b set to a 30-1hr timer, allowing people access to them at all times, i.e. not camping over night so u get the SoM camp only 2 ahve sum 1 come up 2 u saying "uve got 10 mins 2 get a grp here or we r taking the arti" which is just cold hearted and shit for sum 1 camping a arti for ages :( . as for ML's remove the pre-reqs or just make them easier 2 do so u dont have 2 set up a raid, so that u can go on a raid, so that u can set up another raid, to get the prereqs of the next raid, etc OR make it like ml1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 and then have cetus, as doing ml1.1-10 gets boring. ALSO remove the crap point of u need all the ml prereqs so u that u get the last quest, i.e. needing ml1.1-9 until u get credit for killing cetus etc. imo that would b so much more easier :clap: omg mythic employ me :p
 

punchy

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having to wait days for an arti encounter to spawn = shite
how is that adding to the content of the game? It means we end up sitting doing nothing for the chance to complete an encounter.

conclusive proof that smoking cheap crack seriously messes with your ability to design games.
 

Huntingtons

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only if the server were classic with featuring updates and fixes etc. that would be fun :D epic prawns!
 

Thrung

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terribly laggy.. most decent artis have shite respawn.. get rid of ML's.. lvling artis sucks.. that about sums it up doesn't it? :4P
I TOLD U BEFORE! SINK THAT TRICE-CURSED ISLAND!
get a couple of hundred trolls to jump around on it all day.. that way we get rid of the trolls AND ToA.. :4D


:puke: ToA
 

Kjel

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TOA pretty much killed being able to just make a new char and going almost instantly into RvR. Now you have to get arti's, level the bastards, ml stuffs and all sorts of crap to complete :(

Rolling an alt just isn't much of an option anymore.

So yeah I'd prolly move to a pre-ToA server.
 

Garnet

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cougar said:
game would die without toa, pve was nonexisting before toa. Pl in 2days, get sc and rvr gogo. Now atleast we got more pve endgame. cry more noobs!

Wouldnt be able to get 28 buffs effect without toa either :<
 

Shike

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Miff said:
And i feel glad for all casters , for now they can be of use as well as tanks..

Toa whine is getting old....

casters was already viable before toa dude.
 

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