No post on sundays, why?

[noblok]

well why should a christian forgive you because your running your mouth?

"Because it says so in the Bible" . Forgiveness being one of the centre-values of Christianity etc. Forgiveness is not one of the centre-values of every participant in the world war (or at least not necessarily), so the analogy doesn't really work.

 

[Darksword]

"Because it says so in the Bible" . Forgiveness being one of the centre-values of Christianity etc. Forgiveness is not one of the centre-values of every participant in the world war (or at least not necessarily), so the analogy doesn't really work.

It says in the law that you have to be politically correct to some degree.

 

[old.Tohtori]

...holy whinage batman.

Our banks or posts don't do either saturday or sunday, been that way forever.

Get over it and wait a day, you're not going to die.

Unless you're waiting for your lung from Mehico, in which case you're just a moron.

 

[noblok]

It says in the law that you have to be politically correct to some degree.

This was a moral rather than a juridical discussion though .

 

[Megarevs]

...holy whinage batman.

Our banks or posts don't do either saturday or sunday, been that way forever.

Get over it and wait a day, you're not going to die.

Unless you're waiting for your lung from Mehico, in which case you're just a moron.

haha rep!!!! :worthy:

arf:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to old.Tohtori again.

 

[Darksword]

This was a moral rather than a juridical discussion though .

Well tris raised the point that everything is becoming policed, even common curtosy. But he also made a strong case for it by offending religious believers. He then argued they should just forgive him becuase its part of their religion.

So why do we need political correctness? Because people abuse others and feel they should have the right to say whatever they want even if it offends others. Ok fair enough, but what if they are offended? theyd expect some form of respect and/or defence. I agree political correctness is getting out of hand, but i also believe that we need it because people will abuse their rights to offend otehrs to a degree and ti will and does and did escalate out of control and causes alot of problems.

So in short, dont offend christianity because it simply has to forgive you, because legally, you dont fully have the right to offend any religion or person.

 

[Shagrat]

ROFL, i'm sorry for stating my opinon on a DISCUSSION FORUM!

Maturity is shown in the ability to discuss things without being offended by it.

Lets go around a take everything off the world that could offend someone.. Goodbye Art, Goodbye Music, Goodbye Freedom of speech, Goodbye Bible (its offensive to Homosexuals and Atheists.)

Maturity is also shown in the way you discuss things. I'm all for intellectual discussion but:

"we should be allowed to have post on a sunday because Christians are crap"

isn't having an intellectual discussion, it's spouting offensive drivel.

 

[Dandare]

lol at this post turning from someone not getting post on a sunday to World war three

 

[tris-]

"we should be allowed to have post on a sunday because Christians are crap"

isn't having an intellectual discussion, it's spouting offensive drivel.

its a good job no one said that then.

i dont know if im making sense, obviously not if no one knows what im on about (apart from noblok. hes just a clever bastard).

my whole point is - why should people care what other peoples oppinion is about them???

i really dont understand it. if someone thinks you are crap, then so what? should you lose sleep over it? no, not imo anyway. i couldnt give two flying fucks if someone thinks im a twat and should die of aids. its their problem im still alive, not mine

also i say again - should people stop discussing the bible because it offends my personal beliefs? the majority would say no. why? becuase its a religion.
and if its a religion you cant say shit, incase if offends someone you couldnt give a crap about.

but i think christianity should be stopped. it offends my belieifs that there is nothing wrong with homosexuals. they are just people like me, except they like a cock or two in their ass.

so everyone on FH should stop talking about the bible, becuase it offends me. and if they do that, i will stop giving my oppinions on religion (becuase it causes so much heart ache for them :'( )

 

[Cemeterygates]

oh man...i could really fly off the handel here at the religion/law shit...its all a fucking joke imo...i work..pay takes straight out of my wages...an on almost everything i buy...an i walk down the street wearing a shirt that is offensive to christians an can get fined £80 for it....but they can knock on anyones door an preach their fucking shit to them...an thats fine?? an imigrants come intop te country an fuckin bomb us...rape people...kill people...but ye lets just let some more in an wast ethe tax payers money on it....an imigrant gets more rights here than some1 that has worked their lives an payed the taxes.....so tbh...fuck ya laws...fuck ya religion....your a person at the end of the day...but it seems to make you invincible.....i ask any christian....or anyone of any religion....to tell me their religion is not full of hypocrisy.....can you do that??? i fuckin doubt it....so fuck ya

hm...seems i did fly off the handle...oh well

 

[Amildin]

oh man...i could really fly off the handel here at the religion/law shit...its all a fucking joke imo...i work..pay takes straight out of my wages...an on almost everything i buy...an i walk down the street wearing a shirt that is offensive to christians an can get fined £80 for it....but they can knock on anyones door an preach their fucking shit to them...an thats fine?? an imigrants come intop te country an fuckin bomb us...rape people...kill people...but ye lets just let some more in an wast ethe tax payers money on it....an imigrant gets more rights here than some1 that has worked their lives an payed the taxes.....so tbh...fuck ya laws...fuck ya religion....your a person at the end of the day...but it seems to make you invincible.....i ask any christian....or anyone of any religion....to tell me their religion is not full of hypocrisy.....can you do that??? i fuckin doubt it....so fuck ya

hm...seems i did fly off the handle...oh well

Punctuation is your friend.

On a side note, Jehovas Witnesses are not preaching at your door, they state their intentions and ask if you would like to talk and leave you alone if you say no. Whereas your abusive clothing is being forced upon them without a choice in the matter.

To do with the thread in general, political correctness is bollocks. Its for the hyper sensitive people that blame the world hating them on a characteristic they can't change (ie. Race, religion etc) so they dont have to blame themselves about it. I believe tris- is fully entitled to say "religious bollocks" (or something to that nature), especially as this is the internet and if you don't like it you don't have to visit OT forum.

 

[Hansmoleman]

lol at this post turning from someone not getting post on a sunday to World war three

I'll get the sticks and stones ready for the next world war!

oh and for my part, i dont care that we dont get post on a sunday, got a loud letterbox last thing i want when i could be sleeping is being woken by the posty shoving the letters through at 200mph

 

[Bugz]

Blokky is right here guys and its obvious to tell he knows the most on the subject.

Never argue with a wise man

 

[lilmissnaughty]

Punctuation is your friend.

On a side note, Jehovas Witnesses are not preaching at your door, they state their intentions and ask if you would like to talk and leave you alone if you say no.

lol not always the case.
they wouldnt leave my mum alone cos she didnt have the heart to say 'no fuckoff' they decided 'no sorry im not interested' was a cue to teach her why she should be interested. kept coming round.
then i answered the door(dressed as a kinky goth bitch)
they never came back....

for whatever reason we never used to get post i think we should keep it that way.working on sundays sucks.if they r gonna force all services to go 7days a week maybe they should force the office folks too but then folks would whine they want earlier/later times so if we pandered to it everything would be open 24/7.how many people actually go in tesco at 4am now its open then tho?
sunday should be a lazy roll in the hay day imo where the only work ur body does it a bit of .
besides most folks need it to recover from friday an saturday night.

 

[noblok]

my whole point is - why should people care what other peoples oppinion is about them???

While this is a legitimate question, it can't be denied that people do care. Whether we should take this into account or not is the question which is important here.

I think the solution is to make a difference between the subjective and the objective domain. Objectively there is no norm to judge which opinion is worse or better than an other one. This means that objectively all opinions hold an equal value. However, subjectively you can still dislike certain opinions and you should be allowed to express this. This means that I think your statement was incorrect, because you made it sound like a fact. Adding a simple "I think" or "imo" would've fixed that.

One could say that this seems to make the dislike negligible. After all, if there's no objective reason as to why you're wrong, then what does that one person's opinion matter? This isn't quite true though. The reason we care about other's people opinions is acknowledgement. This desire for ackowledgement is always aimed at/bound to particular persons. Objective acknowledgement is not sufficient. We want acknowledgement from other people.

An example as to why objective acknowledgement is not enough: say you participate in a contest 'Best Essay' and you win. However, it wasn't announced as your essay, but as the essay of someone else. You won't be pleased, even though you know your essay won. This clearly shows that knowing you're right isn't enough. Other people have to know it as well.

I just hope that makes sense .


P.S. Bugz: I couldn't tell if that was sarcasm or not, but one should always argue, with the wise man as well as the fool. You can only learn.

 

[haarewin]

i like working sundays. shorter shift and timeandahalf, as well as better people at work. i dont like working the rest of the time.
i havent had sundays as a day of rest in 4 years and never will. my day of rest for years has been a tuesday

 

[tris-]

This means that I think your statement was incorrect, because you made it sound like a fact. Adding a simple "I think" or "imo" would've fixed that.

it wasnt my intention to state it as fact. but lets assume it was for arguments sake.
why could a religious person come preach to me their information as fact? then, because i dont like it, im not allowed to say what i think incase it offends them. even though what they preach may infact offend me!

"you arnt catholic, so you're life is worthless"

"gay people are disgusting, they will goto hell"

"women should stay home all day and look after the house"

"god doesnt like you masturbating, so you will goto hell"

etc

its because its religion so it doesnt really matter if it offends people or not.

errmrmr, imo

 

[Mey]

Tris at the end of the day your way of living could also be seen as a religion so when they come on here saying that your "religion" is wrong and that there religion has authoirty it's exactly the same.

Religion is guilt of being Un-PC far more than anyone else.

 

[noblok]

it wasnt my intention to state it as fact. but lets assume it was for arguments sake.
why could a religious person come preach to me their information as fact? then, because i dont like it, im not allowed to say what i think incase it offends them. even though what they preach may infact offend me!

That's not what I think at least. I think religious people shouldn't pretend their beliefs to be a fact either and I think you have the fullest right to offend* them, if it's clear that it's (just) an opinion. In a discussion it's usually clear that it's all nothing but opinions though.

My post certainly wasn't meant to say that people should explicitely state when they're expressing an opnion and when they're stating a fact. Most of the time the context makes it clear. As your statement about religon wasn't really embedded in the context of a discussion, it was more liable to be interpreted as stating a fact, rather than expressing an opinion.

*note: I mainly mean unintentionally offending. I'm not quite sure what to do with intentionally offending.

 

[tris-]

this is how catholics come across to me.

 

[Cadiva]

this is how catholics come across to me.

Good job most of us Catholics take no notice of narrowminded people who have blinkered views of the world and don't bother to find out whether they're right or not then isn't it.



/em ties on Devil's Advocate hat

PS Sometimes you do appear to be extremely naive on the way the world works Tris. Not commenting on that one way or the other just to say you may find as you get older that what people think of your behaviour becomes fairly important tho

 

[Bugz]

P.S. Bugz: I couldn't tell if that was sarcasm or not, but one should always argue, with the wise man as well as the fool. You can only learn.

Does everything I say come across as sarcastic to you people?

 

[Elkie]

because sunday is day of rest!

sunday is the day of suck me beautiful

:<:<

 

[tris-]

Good job most of us Catholics take no notice of narrowminded people who have blinkered views of the world and don't bother to find out whether they're right or not then isn't it.



/em ties on Devil's Advocate hat

PS Sometimes you do appear to be extremely naive on the way the world works Tris. Not commenting on that one way or the other just to say you may find as you get older that what people think of your behaviour becomes fairly important tho

actually, half my family is roman catholic. ive been to their christenings, weddings etc. every time its the same. the priest is wittering on that "why are you here at this babies christening, none of you will come to church again. you are all going to hell!". every priest we had, has always comes across as rude, abrupt, harsh and arrogant. if i dont believe in god then i dont need someone telling me i will goto hell. thats just a waste of time isnt it?

and like i said, that pic represents how roman catholics come across to ME. the ones ive met and had the displeasure to experience. not every single one in the universe.

i know its important what people think of my behaviour. but once you get scared to express an oppinion incase someone doesnt like it, well whats the point anymore? if i have an oppinion i will give it. i dont really care what your view is on me anymore after that.

still, if i cant say i think religion is silly, then why should religious people be allowed to preach things. things i may find offensive? they can offend me but not vice versa? :/

edit: if this post is full of errors, soz. i woke up at 3am and havent been able to sleep since. on top of that i got a final exam in 4 hours. woot

 

[Raven]

Good job most of us Catholics take no notice of narrowminded people who have blinkered views of the world and don't bother to find out whether they're right or not then isn't it.

its a good thing this thread isnt about whether there is proof of gods existance or not. otherwise people would have to start pointing out that there is no proof of gods existance but loads of proof that christianity is just an out dated way of controlling and taxing the populus.

back to the off topic bit. this is the problem with society these days, if you dare to upset the god botherers (or any other minority*) then you are in for a rough ride, cant say anything or do anything through fear of upsetting someones feelings, get over it, people have different views and are entitled to them. the churches strangle hold over us ended years ago. if they want to waste thier time then thats fine but i do so wish they would stop calling people sinners and whatnot because they happen to think its all crap and a waste of time.

* as in people that give a shit about the church (or any religion)

 

[Jeremiah]

its a good thing this thread isnt about whether there is proof of gods existance or not. otherwise people would have to start pointing out that there is no proof of gods existance but loads of proof that christianity is just an out dated way of controlling and taxing the populus.

Such a thread would be huge, but probably contain little, if any, evidence to argue what you say here. Dont think I'm flaming you here, but these days science stuggles to prove there isnt a God (Something must have created the universe, right?)

back to the off topic bit. this is the problem with society these days, if you dare to upset the god botherers (or any other minority*) then you are in for a rough ride, cant say anything or do anything through fear of upsetting someones feelings, get over it, people have different views and are entitled to them. the churches strangle hold over us ended years ago. if they want to waste thier time then thats fine but i do so wish they would stop calling people sinners and whatnot because they happen to think its all crap and a waste of time.

* as in people that give a shit about the church (or any religion)

I think you'll find that, even though Britain is considered a Christian country, we actually have a lot of religious freedom. I dunno if people remember, but a show called "Jerry Springer, the Opera" was shown on TV (BBC2 I think) which loads of Christians petitioned against and the BBC decided to show it. ( I think it had a scene with Jesus in a nappy or something). Theres been countless issues concerning legislation which Christians demonstrated against (such as proposition 42a in Scotland, I think that was the one, about teaching about homosexuallity in schools) which have all been passed despite Christians being unhappy about it all.

I think our country does a good job of promoting religious freedom (even more than the USA!), but I would agree that the political correctness has gone way too far. These days, you dont get black boards in class rooms. They are now called "chalk boards". Also, I dunno if schools in England taugh Scottish dancing, but we have a dance called "The Gay Gordons"(such amazing fun :worthy: ). In schools, they now have to call it "The Happy Highlander". In my opinon, I think the government is trying to make up for the countless centuries of religious persecution forced upon the common people, and it really does take the shine of the "freedom" we have here

And to get back to the original topic ( ), it is probably historically based on Sunday being the Christian day of rest why most services shut down on. But these days, I think its probablly to give people a chance to recover from their Saturday nights

 

[Bracken]

I'm sure there are Postman Pat re-runs on UK Gold on a Sunday morning. Does that count?

 

[Jeremiah]

Didnt he turn out to be a renegade postman? Posting on unexpected days, fighting the system!

 

[Hansmoleman]

Didnt he turn out to be a renegade postman? Posting on unexpected days, fighting the system!

ive also heard wild rumours that he posted mail after noon and drove around with his cat cause all the villagers were allergic.

 

[Darzil]

Getting back on to the orignial topic, whilst working shifts would work in major towns with large numbers of postmen, it doesn't work so well in rural districts where there may only be 1-2 postmen. As the Post Office has to cover the whole country, they can't easily change to 7 day working everywhere, even if they should want to.

Darzil