No Political debate ?

[yaruar]

And whilst i'm at it. Dear fucking god.....
http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies.html
"On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity"
"In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles. "

I won't even go into the sheer lunacy of their economic policies as they are up there with the monster raving loony party in terms of what they want to do......

 

[k9awya]

nothing wrong with that

no one wants to be a minority in their own country

i saw an african today with a george cross flag.. wtf.

 

[yaruar]

nothing wrong with that

no one wants to be a minority in their own country

i saw an african today with a george cross flag.. wtf.

there is no such thing as a native britian, or at least there hasn't been for thousands and thousands of years. most of us are technically french.

and what is wrong with an african carrying a flag of saint george. And I assume you knew he was african how? did you ask him? or did you just see was black and assume he was born and grew up in africa?
Although a bit ironic that people such as the bnp and yourself put so much emphasis on a saint who was middle eastern isn't it.

 

[Raven]

jimi hendrix said "its not where your from, its where your at" agree. Though i am fed up with things like the way we cant throw that 1 handed terrorist out of the country, need to make some changes to law but the BNP go to far.

 

[yaruar]

jimi hendrix said "its not where your from, its where your at" agree. Though i am fed up with things like the way we cant throw that 1 handed terrorist out of the country, need to make some changes to law but the BNP go to far.

Indeed, terrorists of any kind shouldn't be tolerated. although i count a number of groups that affiliate themselves with the far right as terrorists as well. C18 being the prime example.

As for the sun's favourite hook handed whipping boy, i don't trust anything that paper says and will reserve judgement until i see real evidence.

 

[k9awya]

Firstly multicoltural "bollocks" has little or nothing to do with the crime rates in london. There is lots of crime in london because it's a huge metropolis with lots of people living in it.

thats why over 80% of muggers in london are black right

ps there is an asian only estate being built

ps "myself" said nothing about personal thoughts on st george

so stop being a **** and go see the asians burning union jacks in the street.. for their trouble we will give them a free housing estate, mobile phones, food, money to buy nice cars.

 

[yaruar]

thats why over 80% of muggers in london are black right

ps there is an asian only estate being built,

ps "myself" said nothing about personal thoughts on st george

so stop being a **** and go see the asians burning union jacks in the street.. for their trouble we will give them a free housing estate, mobile phones, food, money to buy nice cars.

Prove the first statistic and prove there is a causal link between race and crime.

Where is this estate being build purely for asians, give evidence?
I livein london and have done for a long time, i read the papers every day i've not heard about this, you'd have thought the sun would have been running a front page campaign about it if it was true.

I have never seen an asian burning a union jack in the streets and I live in the must culturally divers area of london. + all of the asians I know round here work to buy their food, phones, houses, cars, etc. If you are saying they are living off the dole and affording nice cars i'd be shocked at someone buying a nice car whilst taking home 34 quid a week.

I'll ignore the fact you call me a cun.t here as i see no purpose in decending to your level

 

[Fedaykin]

well i am born and bred in ENGLAND and i'm damn proud of it -

i will wave the flag of st george wherever i damn well feel like it and no one is going to make me feel like a rascist for doign so!

What i despise is people who are 'waging war on the west' and hate what the west stands for - yet lives in our country and abuse our system!

fuck them, if they like being limb amputators send them to wherever they god damn want to go - its cheaper for the country to pay the airplane ticket than to support them in welfare.

i am in no way rascist - infact i have some very good black/asian friends - i just hate people who hate England.

Yeah the BNp should never come to power - they have some god damn stupid ideas, but they also make a few good points.

We need to embrace europe - but we also need to keep our identity, i never want to be European, i want to be English.

has anyone heard the new Morrissey song- Irish blood, english heart? its very good and i suggest people who feel strongly give it a twirl.

 

[Marc]

well i am born and bred in ENGLAND and i'm damn proud of it -

i will wave the flag of st george wherever i damn well feel like it and no one is going to make me feel like a rascist for doign so!

What i despise is people who are 'waging war on the west' and hate what the west stands for - yet lives in our country and abuse our system!

fuck them, if they like being limb amputators send them to wherever they god damn want to go - its cheaper for the country to pay the airplane ticket than to support them in welfare.

i am in no way rascist - infact i have some very good black/asian friends - i just hate people who hate England.

Yeah the BNp should never come to power - they have some god damn stupid ideas, but they also make a few good points.

We need to embrace europe - but we also need to keep our identity, i never want to be European, i want to be English.

has anyone heard the new Morrissey song- Irish blood, english heart? its very good and i suggest people who feel strongly give it a twirl.

99% of the people "waging war on the west" arent even foreign. They are fucking students who are 1 million times worse than any iliegal immagrant.

 

[Chilly]

Rah, this threads kicking off properly!

K9, the only reason you think 90% of muggers in london are black is because the police stop+search more blakc people than white people (in proportion to the total population, theres many more white peopl ein london than others, although thats changing) the police are a bunch of fucking racists, did you not see that program months ago about an undercover journo going to train as a policeman?
He sat in his mates room listenin to foul rascist jokes and joining in with them for fear of being beaten up, there was 1 asian guy on the course i seem to remember and they all started bullying him, eventually he gave up.

When it aired on telly two guys were outright fired and lots of others were suspended/investigated.
Now im not saying EVERy police force is like this, because they arnt, but SOME are and rasicm is what causes 99.9% of all this shit. My own brother is half kenyan, we share the same mother im white, hes black, i didnt even reaslise til i was about 12 that there was such a thing as rascism, it bloody shocked me and i dont look kindly upon people who are actively rascist - starting a fight with some (white/asian/whatever) guys just because they different, its fucking ridiculous.

 

[chipper]

i agree with fedaykin whole heartedly id like to say im not racist but i dont think anyone can say they arent im not a nazi or anything but everynow and again things slip out that probably shouldnt

about asylum seekers: close our borders off its going to far now our own country is in a big enough mess and we need to sort out our own problems before trying to solve everyone elses. we have too many people who are homeless and not working, but the government sees fit to ignore these people and instead house illegal immigrants assylum seekers for free and give them benefits and let a good portion of these live off the system but i still see many homeless ppl in my town who the government dont giv a fuk about.

as with fedaykin the next thing ill say pisses me off immensely, its the people who hate the west but still live here. i mean after seeing that protest that 1 handed freak made i just lost it, why the fuck do we have to put up with there shit, they live in england not iraq etc if they want to live here they should respect our laws and abide by them if they dont like it they can fuck off back to wherever they come from or wanna go and then they can burn flags all they like they,
they say we are oppressing them and we dont respect there rights yet they demostrate that our way of thinking is wrong and we should do as they say, fuking clowns the lot of em they should be chucked out of the country sent to iraq or where ever they wanna go. i cant believe our goverment lets people get away with stuff like this theres freedom of speech then theres just hate and hate leads people to do evil things.

im sure im coming across as racist its not my intention to at all.
im english and very proud of it, we arent perfect i still see many problems in my own neighborhood so obviously there are places in much worse states.
one day when the goverment can turn around and say that unemployment is practically unheard of poverty no longer exists crime is almost unheard of then you can open the gates and take in however many ppl we can comfortably support id happily welcome them then but as it stands england is slipping in a direction i dont like and probably many others dont either.

i am a firm believe that we should solve our problems at home before we start trying to make the world a better place if we cant make england better what chance we got with the rest of the world.

btw marc im a student and ive backed bush 100% since day 1 im glad some has the bolloxs to stand up to ppl who think they can terrorize the world

 

[k9awya]

the police chief commissioner said 80% of muggers are black in london

everytime i see police assistance boards they always say black youth attacked/assaulted someone else blah blah.

my cousin got mugged few weeks ago, threatened with a knife by 2 black ppl.
my little brother got threatened with knives by a gang of 8 black kids.

i have never had trouble in south east london with white people, always black people trying to give me aggro-

 

[Chilly]

OK, so maybe there are more black muggers than anyone else, but have you stopped ot think WHY?

The problem isnt that because someone is black they are more inclined to commit crime, tis because they get such a shit upbringing, living in shit holes gettign abuse from rascist ***** living around them, threatened etc.. no wonder they feel bitter, its a feedback cycle, the more they turn to crime because no one will help them, the more hate there will be and it just gets worse.

 

[Mimen]

OK, so maybe there are more black muggers than anyone else, but have you stopped ot think WHY?

The problem isnt that because someone is black they are more inclined to commit crime, tis because they get such a shit upbringing, living in shit holes gettign abuse from rascist ***** living around them, threatened etc.. no wonder they feel bitter, its a feedback cycle, the more they turn to crime because no one will help them, the more hate there will be and it just gets worse.

So, what you are basically saying is that if im an alcoholic and beat my kids and i say i am cos my parents did it its ok?.

i used to live in birmingham. What i dont find right is that there are great massive parts of the city THAT DONT SPEAK ENGLISH.


My wife used to teach english in birmingham , the highschool where she worked had 98% ethnic minority pupils. Once she told me that there was some kids beating each other up ( 11 - 12 year olds ). She was brave enough to break it up and asked them why they were fighting. The answer was " cos the are indians ( the boy that was decent enought to talk to her english was a pakistani ). She then asked them " And whats wrong with the indians?" to what she was answered " My dad said we have to hate the indians!". I mean lol.

What i dont understand that it only seems to be in the UK where the Asylum seekers "dont play along". Where i live in spain there are a lot of arabs and north african people, and there is never any problem, no harassment nothing.

It is also true that the police like to hassle the minorities more than the rest, that happens everywhere and will always happen.


/salute

the vicious circle just seems a crappy excuse.

 

[Aoami]

These muggers may be black, but they're still English.

 

[Chilly]

Im NOT saying its ok, im saying that theres a much deeper problem causing these other problems, and throwing them all in jail/out of the country will just export the problem, not solve it.

 

[k9awya]

OK, so maybe there are more black muggers than anyone else, but have you stopped ot think WHY?

The problem isnt that because someone is black they are more inclined to commit crime, tis because they get such a shit upbringing, living in shit holes gettign abuse from rascist ***** living around them, threatened etc.. no wonder they feel bitter, its a feedback cycle, the more they turn to crime because no one will help them, the more hate there will be and it just gets worse.

its the culture they take, a much higher % of them like the rap/gun culture thing

 

[Chilly]

i like rap, i like guns, hell iv GOT a gun (pellet gun ) and iv got about 150 hours of rap music on my puter, but iv never mugged anyone, nor am i black.

 

[k9awya]

well you havent mugged anyone.. and you aint black

thats not actually a suprise to me

 

[Chilly]

so its surpising when a white person commits a crime?

Iv been arrested 4 times for being naughty, went to court once!

/edit and my parents are moderatle rich i live in a detached very nice house i have everything i need, so you cant say its cos im some ghetto boy who needs the cash for a heroine addiction, cos i aint got one of those either!

 

[k9awya]

oh so you are a criminal

rap gun culture there you go again