Night Shades

[-Lonewolf-]

Holy crap what the hell did Mythic do to u?!?

I was perfed last night by Envenom for....dare I say it....276dmg?!?!?!?!!?

If that isn't bad I dunno what is?!

Not a flame thread more of a, holy christ give the nightshades some loving Mythic thread!

 

[old.LandShark]

maybe it's cos he's a blade-shade! He specializes in killing other stealthers!
Give the guy a break Lonewolf mate, he's only got a 15% bonus to your armor type and slower-than-usual weapons :>
/em tries to continue but gets perfed for 500 by iziz
btw, lol @ envenom /laugh-spamming me at nGed last night, even though our 15 people got zerged by at least twice that, and he himself had no part in killing me :>

 

[-Lonewolf-]

U know what Landy for once in your life u made no sense

I am a stealther?!?! And ur saying he is meant to kill me, what I am saying when u read it again is that I hope they give Ns's some loving because I can perf one for well over 400

Why is it people see to like totally ignore a nice good post and assume its insults all the time its hilarious

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by old.LandShark

lol @ envenom /laugh-spamming me

I bet he has even binded it to his main quickbar.

 

[old.Akirai]

That and the /kiss macro too lol.

Btw thats all he ever hits for, hes pretty easy to beat if u catch him alone.

 

[Aeiedil]

i did try to tell him emote-spamming is lame, anyway back to the topic

our damage seems way too low when compared to other realms assassins, my pa's only hit for 200-300 with my piercers it seems, 400-500 if im lucky, about 650-680 cap

 

[old.Laryssa]

did notice it in BG2 with my lill shade - with piercers i'm pretty limited in dmg (tried it on a yellow minstrel).

I killed him barely although PA worked and I used GA+AH all the way with a DD during fight

PA did about 120-150dmg

 

[Ninjastyle]

nightshade vs inf , no perf, just melee = inf will win
sometimes if nightshade gets lucky with evades or something they'll win
dunno why, must be the lower con and strenght ?

 

[-Lonewolf-]

Ninja is right and so is Aeie nuff said I feel

 

[Eleasias]

I dont think any infil has perfed me for over 300 without buffs in quite a while :/ But like said inf > sb > ns, NS has a huge disadvantage vs other stealthers because a) they either spec pierce which isnt that good vs leather or b) they spec blades which is better vs leather but NS's have gimp str = gimp dmg output, while infils can spec either slash and make better damage due to higher str or thrust and get an uber style and the ability to solo every class in the game.

 

[Novamir]

sb > inf > ns

 

[Vireb]

Originally posted by Ninjastyle
nightshade vs inf , no perf, just melee = inf will win
sometimes if nightshade gets lucky with evades or something they'll win
dunno why, must be the lower con and strenght ?

ns melees dmg is less than other assasins due to insta dd's pity they dont use em much and just complain about there melee ok the dd isnt a worlsd of hurt add that to ya lame pa and your doing same sort of pa dmg

 

[old.LandShark]

Aeiedil's instaDD's hit me for 50 each last time we met, iziz's a similar amount. just FYI

Lonewolf mate... i was being sarcastic. He IS a blade (slash) shade and he does boast that he's designed for killing other assassins. He DOES have 15% dmg bonus against your leather, unless it's 20%. ;p
I was being sarcastic and agreeing with you. Nightshades are the weakest assassins but i couldn't help laugh at Mr. "im specced to kill other stealthers" envenom who perfs a leather-wearer for 276.

Aeiedil btw - i noticed you standing next to him saying stuff in a language i couldn't understand, thanks for the support ;D

edit: found the exact quote from envenom:

o btw yes im really looking forward to next patch.I dont think you'll be seeing many solo archers classes much well i hope there is coz im blade shade and i specilize in killing stealther classes.

 

[-Lonewolf-]

DOH DOH DOH DOH!!! Sorry mate twat right here

 

[dexa]

well blade hit harder then percing and thats me
Ok i am no uberKarem hiter so pls dont block/mezz or insta
litle me so i atleast can hurt u abit...

Back 2 topic yes ns hits relly lame, cap is like 300+ less then sb .

what i really fell boring is the insta mezz, i know we get it and so on but we dont have now....

taking keeps:

every time we go its a big chance to get mezzed up there and die, if u lucky u die jumping down so u can get rezz.


holdig keeps:

how hard is it for mids/albs just climb up in a nice line do 1 or 2 hits then jump down, rest a bit then go up again, no worries there..........

 

[Ninjastyle]

tr00 tr00

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

inf>sb>ns

infil got what 2.5*lvl spec points? and dragonfang at 50 pierce

 

[Envenom2]

this realy could have been a numbver of reasons mate 1stly if it was at cruch last night i think i had a perment rez sick so im not surprised i hit u for that crap damage.

2nd i duno if the PA was accurate u could have moved anything to stop it causing the ususal damage.


also i think ninjastyle will know my damage i had the sucker at alb wall tonight in emain 1 hit he would have been dead but nooooooo i got ganked
also killed aussie at the tower 1st hit took over half health he stil died even thou i got ganked posion finsihed him off.


so just to clear any confusion blade shade is better then pierce shade for killing stealthers/scouts etc.

most shades in US are blade shades and thats a fact so that speaks for itself really

 

[Novamir]

umm

since when can inf use 2 handers? a 2 hander kobie can make crazy perf damage, but sword users especially can get CD in most times before enemy can react with 2h swords which go down to 3.5-4 spd. (and high kobold QUI modifier)

dragonfang isnt nearly as good as it is cracked up to be, why waste 11 more points in thrust to get a semi-useful rvr move? if you want to kill a mage in 2 shots, you won't use it. any time you can get CD in and a few hits after then escape + let lifebane work, you won't use it. it's only GOOD in 1v1s when you have evaded, and even with dodger realm ability you only have 35% chance to evade.

SBs are so much more powerful, they can deal insane dmg (EITHER 2hander, OR norse shadowzerk). briton blade inf > saracan thruster. luri bladeshade is the best hib can get, but it certainly aint uber in any way - up to 4.5spd perf max, and with 50 base STR :/

 

[Release]

Its strange, I dont think I hardly ever get killed by NS's, always Inf's. Rangers get me alot though

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by Envenom2
also killed aussie at the tower 1st hit took over half health he stil died even thou i got ganked posion finsihed him off.

pitty you died before i did and saw your list of buffs again ;/

so just to clear any confusion blade shade is better then pierce shade for killing stealthers/scouts etc.

Actually an ubergimped assasin with buffs can kill an archer.

 

[Envenom2]

i knew i shoulda took a screenie how coul di have buffs when the bard died in that hib/alb fight? he died just before i attacked u mate so enough of the bullshit pls i killed u fair and square and yes i was being ganked by albs but YES I KILLED U without buffs u were healed once ffs lol bye aussie u couldnt run that time eh?

 

[Cowled]

Hi lone-wolf

I dunno if anyone posted this BUT:

After next patch (1.50), u'll only get HIT by a NS, in normal hit.. and u'll be dead!

why?

Viper Active 30 min. 14 0 0 0 0 N/A N/A For 30 seconds, all of your DoT poisons will do double damage.

480 dot *2 = 960 dmg
then u have to plus with the dmg from the hib .. about 1000 dmg.

Anyone want a little hit?

 

[censi]

I hate the whole idea of assasin and ranger classes..... They dont do the game anygood.

Basically, assasins will target things they know they can kill. So once they attack there aint that much you can do. (especially as a Luri Ranger, assasins each me for breakfast)

Pretty similar for me when Im out hunting, ill see something and ill pretty much know in an instant if its killable or not...

There is no joy in actually making the kill in this game. And very very few fights involve any skill. I have farmed 20k RP soloing in one day... but its the most boring day of gaming I have ever had...

Regret playing a ranger tbh...

Its a pity that the gameplay does not encororate larger elements of skill to determine the outcome of a battle. Rather than just whoever does "their ting" first wins.... OR the larger Zerg wins in Mass RVR.

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by Envenom2
i knew i shoulda took a screenie how coul di have buffs when the bard died in that hib/alb fight? he died just before i attacked u mate so enough of the bullshit pls i killed u fair and square and yes i was being ganked by albs but YES I KILLED U without buffs u were healed once ffs lol bye aussie u couldnt run that time eh?

http://users.skynet.be/Aussie/liarenvenom.jpg

yeah no buffs
the heal was even my own heal, a bountypoint heal :/

 

[Tranquil-]

"dragonfang isnt nearly as good as it is cracked up to be, why waste 11 more points in thrust to get a semi-useful rvr move? if you want to kill a mage in 2 shots, you won't use it. any time you can get CD in and a few hits after then escape + let lifebane work, you won't use it. it's only GOOD in 1v1s when you have evaded, and even with dodger realm ability you only have 35% chance to evade."-Novamir

An assassin gets Evade VII that's EVADE 7, you get 5% chance to evade per level of evade, which means 35% BASE chance to evade with evade 7. This is then modified by the dex you have and by the difference in lvl's between you and the target. Dodger increases with 3% per lvl of dodger, which means at Dodger 5 you have an added 15% chance to evade, that gives a total chance of 50% chance to evade. An Inf will evade
That style can take down tanks.

 

[Envenom2]

that screenie could have been 1 u took days ago ;/ nuff said

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
That style can take down tanks.

Dont forget Inf's can use a small shield also, for another 5% chance to not get hit, again modified by dex.. Handy also for lvling in dungeons etc when doing TOO MUCH dmg is a problem
Making an inf without Dragonfang is like rolling a scout without Slam. plain daft imo.

 

[old.LandShark]

Slash inf really has relatively few advantages on a thrust inf... good anytime style (amethyst slash) and 16.5dps fast offhand weapon (no such thruster in albion) is frankly all i can think of right now. You WILL do more damage to enemy stealthers, true, but it's not as if you need the slash dmg bonus to do so. If you perf first, you win
Dragonfang = you kill tanks after failing perf or CD.
Diamond slash (50slash style) = you, er, kill tanks after perf and CD and not without

 

[Novamir]

because blades have slower spd than piercers, the perf will always be higher. plus a briton can have 70 base str which is comparable to a norse.

i personally would make a SB or brit blade inf for PvP. no way would i choose thrust. norse doublefroster sounds naaajce