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charmangle said:
Baselinestun = no defence = nukenukenuke = death. (It not hard with a twobutton killingsprea. Try it with mess next time and see what happens.)

You are aware Hibernian classes dont get mezz baseline? Hell the 'person' you're attacking plays an enchanter who has 1 form of CC: Single-target stun.

In other words: He cannot do anything but stun (if he wants to CC). Next time check spellbook of classes before whining.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Talking about power, I have a recording of one Bard FZ'ing me and 30-40 people behind him trying to get 1 realm point at last Alb tower of Crim.

ahh that was you was it. We were not trying to get the realm point we were just trying to get your ass out of Hib. You had low numbers but still put up a good defence. We were rusty last night and had to be bailed out a few times - so /respect you guys were no push over.

We need to get our act together (I am referring to random Hibs like me not the FG's ofc ;)) or come the cluster it is going to be nothing but a sea of red out there.
 

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Puppet said:
You are aware Hibernian classes dont get mezz baseline? Hell the 'person' you're attacking plays an enchanter who has 1 form of CC: Single-target stun.

In other words: He cannot do anything but stun (if he wants to CC). Next time check spellbook of classes before whining.

So what? Doesn't make it any less lame.
 

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Its an advantage, like bolt range mezz (or indeed a main CC'er with quickcast), insta pbaoe disease, lifetap nukes instead of just DD's... do I really have to go on?

Give over manisch, or at least just recognise that you're talking from a very one sided, narrow view of one tiny aspect of the game.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
So what? Doesn't make it any less lame.

Does make him look utter stupid when he says 'try it with mezz and see what happens' if the frigging class doesnt even have access to mezz...

Besides, baseline stun, baseline mezz, whatever... in a caster vs caster duel it hardly matters unless you can MOC-lifetap which wins most of the (MOC-)duels. Ofcourse that isnt lame, mostly because its your own class capable of doing it.

Just the 'omg baseline stun, thats no soloing no skill no life'-whine gets abit old now. Contrary to you, grow up for once instead of whining about baseline stun, but also whine about me purging your own stun on your armsman. Manisch Hypocrite would suit you better.
 

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Does make him look utter stupid when he says 'try it with mezz and see what happens' if the frigging class doesnt even have access to mezz...

Besides, baseline stun, baseline mezz, whatever... in a caster vs caster duel it hardly matters unless you can MOC-lifetap which wins most of the (MOC-)duels. Ofcourse that isnt lame, mostly because its your own class capable of doing it.

Just the 'omg baseline stun, thats no soloing no skill no life'-whine gets abit old now. Contrary to you, grow up for once instead of whining about baseline stun, but also whine about me purging your own stun on your armsman. Manisch Hypocrite would suit you better.
Ignore him Muppet you get used to it :eek7:
 

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Dwali said:
u wont get so much defend if this keeps up with the PvE realm!!!!

Dwali's Sig said:
Tombela lvl 50 Mincer
Jalin lvl 50 necromancer ML3 Servant specc
Aladia 50 cleric
Aladio lvl 4x heretic
Blauc lvl 50 4l5 Pally ml5 (borrowd)
Cerwen lvl 50 Cabalist (in ToA training)
Frireg lvl 50 sniper
Edial lvl 50 icewiza ml4 rr4

Semi-active

+4 more lvl 50ish

That's a nice long list of chars you got there, Fri. All levelled and ToA'd through RvR I'm guessing then?
 

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Puppet said:
Does make him look utter stupid when he says 'try it with mezz and see what happens' if the frigging class doesnt even have access to mezz...

Besides, baseline stun, baseline mezz, whatever... in a caster vs caster duel it hardly matters unless you can MOC-lifetap which wins most of the (MOC-)duels. Ofcourse that isnt lame, mostly because its your own class capable of doing it.

Just the 'omg baseline stun, thats no soloing no skill no life'-whine gets abit old now. Contrary to you, grow up for once instead of whining about baseline stun, but also whine about me purging your own stun on your armsman. Manisch Hypocrite would suit you better.

What are you trying to achieve by saying that? You will never convince me that baseline stuning is not lame. FYI I don't cast a damage spell from 1500 range each second after a successful slam. Comparing melee stuns to the castable stun is a joke. I also never MoC3 lifetapped someone and I have enough tools as a Sorc to kill Hib casters when I get the jump or my purge is up. So... Why am I still "whining" about baseline stuning? There is no skill involved in making someone not able to fight back (purge down), debuffing him for 50% and nuking the crap out of him and then continuing with the next target. It kills solo play with a lot of classes and I wouldn't mind a different long duration CC spell instead of baseline stun for damage dealing casters as long as it breaks upon damage.

I don't whine about anything. You can stun my Armsman all day long if you like it. I said, meet my Arms when he is actually out with solo RAs and ML10 and we will see how it goes and you meet him in group RAs, ML8 and not leveled artifacts and then you say I am wrong? Yeah right...
 

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Dwali said:
hibs did good...it was the albs that lack the ability to defend...so i´m very disepointed at albs defence...atleast 2-3 fgs of us tryd keep hibs back but it wasent enough

2-3fgs....alchool makes you see double mate. i only saw around 8ppl there....(8 ppl not 1fg...like 2bbs 2 on roof 1 near lord 3 near door)
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
What are you trying to achieve by saying that? You will never convince me that baseline stuning is not lame. FYI I don't cast a damage spell from 1500 range each second after a successful slam. Comparing melee stuns to the castable stun is a joke. I also never MoC3 lifetapped someone and I have enough tools as a Sorc to kill Hib casters when I get the jump or my purge is up. So... Why am I still "whining" about baseline stuning? There is no skill involved in making someone not able to fight back (purge down), debuffing him for 50% and nuking the crap out of him and then continuing with the next target. It kills solo play with a lot of classes and I wouldn't mind a different long duration CC spell instead of baseline stun for damage dealing casters as long as it breaks upon damage.


Totaly aggree with you...
Next goa gives all hib stun classes aoe spells and step give mids same duration on that aoe stun thing from .....healer i think.
 

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Kinetix said:
Totaly aggree with you...
Next goa gives all hib stun classes aoe spells and step give mids same duration on that aoe stun thing from .....healer i think.

Yes, because GoA are the ones who made DAoC?
Clueless seems to be your first name. Fits well togheter with Manisch though.
 

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Sigh, sure, baseline stun is destroying the game, time to change the record and try to learn how this game really works. :rolleyes:
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
What are you trying to achieve by saying that? You will never convince me that baseline stuning is not lame. FYI I don't cast a damage spell from 1500 range each second after a successful slam. Comparing melee stuns to the castable stun is a joke. I

You dont seem to get the analogy. I will explain it one more time:

* Baseline stun is lame mostly because you can't do anything even when you do take damage. Enemy cant do much (except purge) during it, and therefore is lame, from your PoV

* Slam means *I* cant do anything even when I do take damage. Ofcourse your DPS is abit lower then a caster, but it doesnt change the fact I still cant do anything.

You complained about me purging your stun - obviously I got the tools to bypass that stun of you. What basically means if you got so much troubles with 'baseline stun' : Just get Purge3 like I used against you and its solved.

Its called 'to adapt': Basically every fight against an Alb-stealther I get a good chance to get stunned: Insta stun from the minstrel, Slam from the scout, Dragonfang/Creeping Death from an infiltrator. Ive learned that if I stay around stunned, Im mostly dead because my skinny Elf doesnt have the HP nor the armour to take the beating. Ive adapted, took up Purge3 and become alot less vulnerable against that or alternatively the quickcast CC from enemy casters.

If you got so much problems with the baseline stun, get Purge3. Tho obviously its lame to purge the baseline stun, as its lame to purge your armsman's slam. Thats why I called you a hypocrit.
 

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Boggy said:
That's a nice long list of chars you got there, Fri. All levelled and ToA'd through RvR I'm guessing then?



nope GoA raped them all accept 3...and thouse 3 that hade stuff is my PvE chars mostley...Mincer was the closest 1 to be complet...was just 2 artis to lvl and 1 more to get then i was done with him...but will only have to get 1 arti now since i will get all back at lvl 10!!!


and most is solod/used my necro and some grps to lvl...not much in RvR!!


But when clustering comes i can once again play with u since some Zones will be so we can meet up again and have some fun peat...u me and the rest of us old fun animists
 

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Dwali said:
But when clustering comes i can once again play with u since some Zones will be so we can meet up again and have some fun peat...u me and the rest of us old fun animists

I'm playing an Eld now. I finally got up enough steam of disatisfaction on Peat to bite the bullet with another round of leveling. Now I have 3 level 50s. Woooo!

Look out for Tape, but if you complain about his baseline stun, I won't play with you anymore :p

I think it's Awarkle & Belgarath's Middie RvR guild that's gonna scare me most though come cluster ;)
 

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Boggy said:
I'm playing an Eld now. I finally got up enough steam of disatisfaction on Peat to bite the bullet with another round of leveling. Now I have 3 level 50s. Woooo!

Look out for Tape, but if you complain about his baseline stun, I won't play with you anymore :p

I think it's Awarkle & Belgarath's Middie RvR guild that's gonna scare me most though come cluster ;)


hehe look out for Tombela then...u never know he might sneak up behind u and mezz the stun dd dd FZ and /danc with u :p
 

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