Rant NHS fat cat wankers

Lazarus

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Dont know if you guys heard about the NHS spending?

Apparently they have allocated ~£21m pounds to address cleaning up hospitals and reducing the contracting of Cdiff and other virii.

What crack sme up is that they are also allocating ~£30 to pay consultants bonuses at end of year.

Spineless MP (Sturgeon iirc) whining that she cant do anything about it since its written into their contracts.

if its in there contracts, its hardly a bonus!!!! you only get a bonus if you do a better job than expected. CDiff (and other illnesses) are still rampant across scotlad and she still whines that her hands are tied.

Seems like the bankerrs have all jumped ship to the NHS.
 

Tom

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A bonus in a contract is still a bonus. If they don't meet their targets, they don't get it. Bonuses are nothing to do with expectations, they are paid out only if certain conditions are met.

The MP cannot remove the clause from the contract, and rightly so.
 

Chilly

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What can be done is stopping future contracts containing such clauses, although that might hurt the hiring rate a tad.
 

Cadelin

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The definition of bonus is getting a bit silly.

A bonus used to be considered as something that was entirely optional. For example: The company has done well we will give a bonus to keep the best employees from going elsewhere.

Lets say I am having an extension done to my house. I pay the builder 50% at the start and 50% on completion. Nobody would call the 50% on completion a bonus?! If they had done a really good job, completed it ahead of schedule etc I could choose to pay them a bit extra, that would be a bonus.
 

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A bonus should be meeting a challenge above and beyond expectations. They seem to be handed out for turning up on time at the moment.
 

Chilly

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Where I work, bonuses are linked to company and personal performance. If the company doesnt do well, no one gets anything (except the board, I imagine).

It's a natural progression for capitalist societies where the best have no problem moving jobs and there is little resistance to doing so in terms of tax disincentives or an illiquid housing market. Therefore companies need to sweeten the deal for the top performers.
 

gunner440

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Nothing wrong with performance related bonuses. Someone will always be offering them and that's where the talent will go. NHS is rubbish anyway, helped a friend on a 2 month consultancy contract of his and introduced several million cost savings in one area just by changing suppliers - without any compromise in quality of goods and services.

Doesn't surprise me that they need to attach the £'s to lure people in. They don't seem to have much else going for them.

If my bonus arrangements were cut (assuming I meet criteria) then as Chilly said, I'd jump ship. Someone else will show me love.
 

00dave

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I work in private Healthcare and right now the unit I work for is the second highest earner in the country for our company. The highest earner is the hospital we work directly for, yet for some reason it's still not likely we're going to get our bonus this year :(
 

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The bonus seems problematic only if it's assumed the workers haven't done their job(or exceed).

The "~£21m pounds to address cleaning up hospitals and reducing the contracting of Cdiff and other virii." seems unrelated to the bonus.

If it were "the bonus for reducing this and that", then it would seem problematic, but as it is, we can't really say how the people have worked and if they deserve it.
 

Lazarus

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The bonus seems problematic only if it's assumed the workers haven't done their job(or exceed).

The "~£21m pounds to address cleaning up hospitals and reducing the contracting of Cdiff and other virii." seems unrelated to the bonus.

If it were "the bonus for reducing this and that", then it would seem problematic, but as it is, we can't really say how the people have worked and if they deserve it.

point is Toht, the cdiff (and other virii) are actually killing people, yet they are spending less on eradicating that than they are bilging the wallets of the fat cats.
 

Chilly

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point is Toht, the cdiff (and other virii) are actually killing people, yet they are spending less on eradicating that than they are bilging the wallets of the fat cats.

Maybe the bonus is something like 1% of any savings they can make via supply chain efficiencies?

Until you know HOW they are being bonused, talking shit like that is worthy of going into some shit rag like the daily mail or the sun.
 

rynnor

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I think the most disgusting bonuses currently are those the BA execs voted themselves - the companies losing money yet they still pay themselves massive bonuses - lol.

They also voted themselves free first class travel on BA for life - hilarious!

Wont be worth much when the company ends up in administration in a year or so tho :p
 

gunner440

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point is Toht, the cdiff (and other virii) are actually killing people, yet they are spending less on eradicating that than they are bilging the wallets of the fat cats.

Have you got their business plan to hand or what?
 

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