NHS 'failing to tackle obesity' ??

[Tom]

Originally posted by dysfunction
Why does it have to be the government that does this???

Because as a rule, people are too retarded to understand it for themselves. Think about seatbelt laws, and bike helmets.

 

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Why do the stupid and wreckless who risk their lives deserve money from everyone else?

 

[dysfunction]

Yes you also then end up living in a so called "free society" which is not really free because there are so many laws and such like that prevent you from doing anything!

People really need to take responsibility for themselves and actually use more common sense.

The more you spoon feed the more you have to.

 

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Counldnt agree more. With the onset of compensation culture, we really do need to stop the idea that theres always someone else to blame. Sometimes shit happens, and people should learn to live with that and the results of their own actions.

 

[Any]

Originally posted by Tom
Because as a rule, people are too retarded to understand it for themselves. Think about seatbelt laws, and bike helmets.

Worst laws ever. Stupid people should not be looked after. Let them kill themselves.

 

[Flamin_Squirrel]

 

[Clowneh!]

Heheheh. I have a low metabolism and I eat too much and I eat the wrong foods. I'm not blaming the NHS. I just don't care. I know how to lose weight, I just chose not to

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by Any
Worst laws ever. Stupid people should not be looked after. Let them kill themselves.

I suppose you'd legalise all drugs as well?

 

[Any]

Originally posted by Tom
I suppose you'd legalise all drugs as well?

This is the last post im making about this.

Yes i would. If somebody wants to do something that will harm nobody but themselves then they should be allowed to.

 

[Clowneh!]

Uhuh... no such thing as domino effect...

 

[Any]

Originally posted by Clowneh!
Uhuh... no such thing as domino effect...

What?

 

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Originally posted by Any
This is the last post im making about this.

Yes i would. If somebody wants to do something that will harm nobody but themselves then they should be allowed to.

Nah, getting fat and taking drugs are completely different things. Taking drugs does indeed only harm yourself, but the link between drugs and crime is undeniable

 

[Big G]

Originally posted by Any
This is the last post im making about this.

Yes i would. If somebody wants to do something that will harm nobody but themselves then they should be allowed to.

tard

Not wearing a seatbelt does harm other people, particularly if you don't wear one in the backseat and pile into someone in the front seat killing them instantly. Similarly with drugs; someone you know/love can get access to heroin down the local Asda, shoot up and dies, affecting all those known to them.

Why did i even bother posting :wall:

G

 

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Laws should be there to protect people from the stupidity of others, not themselves.

 

[Clowneh!]

Originally posted by Any
What?

I know someone who stabbed my friend's mum because buzzin' and mad.

 

[Any]

Originally posted by Any
HARM NOBODY BUT THEMSELVES

Read my post please.

 

[bids]

Originally posted by rynnor

Individuals are obviously responsible for their own health but the NHS is responsible for the health of the nation as a whole.

This is simply wrong - the NHS is a provider of health care - it cannot and should not be responsible for the 'health of the nation'. Do a 'google' on NHS Charter to see how the Government sees it.

 

[Clowneh!]

Originally posted by Any
Read my post please.

YOU FUCKING IDIOT. HE WAS SMOKING THE DRUGS THAT YOU WOULD LEGALISE AND HARMED SOMEONE ELSE.

 

[Sleet]

fat people eat fat foods. Ok, so many are unaware of just how fat the foods they eat are.

What i find repulsive and idiotic is parents that have 5 year old ish kids, that have developed breast because of thier huge size. Some parents should be arrested for shit like that, nothing to do with the NHS its a form of neglect and should be punishable.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by Clowneh!
I AM A FECKING IDIOT. ALL I DO IS SPOUT ANNOYING CRAP

Please keep it down, don't want this thread to become a pointless flame war.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by Sleet
What i find repulsive and idiotic is parents that have 5 year old ish kids, that have developed breast because of thier huge size. Some parents should be arrested for shit like that, nothing to do with the NHS its a form of neglect and should be punishable.

Its called ignorance. Also dont forget that eating healthily isn't exactly cheap.

 

[Jonaldo]

I'm thinking of taking the Government and NHS to court.

1) I'm short, this is clearly the fault of the NHS as they didn't give me advice how to grow properly and effextively when I was younger. (actually I remember a kid at school getting growth hormone injections). I shall sue them for this.

2) I'm not as good at football as I want to be, this has cost me millions in lost potential earnings as I want to be playing for England and a megastar in general. This is the Governments fault as they didn't set up training schools or get me involved when I was younger.

 

[Sleet]

well i semi-agree tom. mass produced cheap low quality food does have some influence, although i dont think ignorance is quite the right word

I think that feeding up a little kid to be heavier than someone twice thier age is nothing other than neglect.

 

[rynnor]

Originally posted by Sleet
I think that feeding up a little kid to be heavier than someone twice thier age is nothing other than neglect.

Thats a pretty extreme example but the truth about who's responsible for childrens diets is a combination of the parents/schools - its no good feeding a child healthily at home when the school meals are X+Chips everyday and theres a soft drinks/confectionary machine outside every classroom...

Where we ought to really crack down is on the marketing of junk food and sweets at children - McDonalds have in the past decade bought TV ad slots in the middle of the childrens tv time and theres the proliferation of vending machines. Theres probably only a handful of schools in the UK who dont have a vending machine or 4.

Recent studies showed junk food to be more addictive than crack cocaine yet its still legal to market it at kids despite the proven health risk - theres going to be some almighty court cases soon - its starting now in the same way the tobacco industry started getting sued in the sixties - I actually think its a good thing as it forces companies to be more responsible and alert to the downsides of their products.

 

[rynnor]

Originally posted by bids
This is simply wrong - the NHS is a provider of health care - it cannot and should not be responsible for the 'health of the nation'. Do a 'google' on NHS Charter to see how the Government sees it.

The charter is just a managment tool that describes targets for treatment and patient responsibilities (though the patient responsibilities can be broadly described as turn up for appointments and dont hit the staff...).

Why would you have a National Health service that didn't care for the nations health?

 

[bids]

Originally posted by rynnor
The charter is just a managment tool that describes targets for treatment and patient responsibilities (though the patient responsibilities can be broadly described as turn up for appointments and dont hit the staff...).

Why would you have a National Health service that didn't care for the nations health?

Your original post said the NHS is responsible for the health of the nation as a whole - it isn't. How can the NHS be responsible for the choices you make in the type of lifestyle you follow ? The NHS is a healthcare service provider - it can't be responsible for ensuring we all follow a healthy lifestyle. That is more down to the choices you make as an individual. You're implying that any increase in the prevalence of obesity, STD's, smoking, bad diet, etc, is the fault of the NHS for not telling us about the risks ? Sorry - but I see that as the responsibility of educational 'institutions' - not the poor overworked, underpaid and unappreciated buggers who have to provide treatments.

 

[sad_mung]

Originally posted by bids
Your original post said the NHS is responsible for the health of the nation as a whole - it isn't. How can the NHS be responsible for the choices you make in the type of lifestyle you follow ? The NHS is a healthcare service provider - it can't be responsible for ensuring we all follow a healthy lifestyle. That is more down to the choices you make as an individual. You're implying that any increase in the prevalence of obesity, STD's, smoking, bad diet, etc, is the fault of the NHS for not telling us about the risks ? Sorry - but I see that as the responsibility of educational 'institutions' - not the poor overworked, underpaid and unappreciated buggers who have to provide treatments.

Absolutely spot on....and even when told by their doctors to quit smoking/diet etc do you think half the buggers do? No of course not, 'cos the NHS will pick them back up again after all thats what they pay their taxes for etc..... totally irresponsible!

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by sad_mung
and even when told by their doctors to quit smoking/diet etc do you think half the buggers do? No of course not,

Because they're addicted.

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by Tom
Because they're addicted.

Give up tbh, it's like trying to get an isreali to recognise palestine in here.

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Tom
Also dont forget that eating healthily isn't exactly cheap.

Its cheaper than junk food

Unless you are talking about eating out rather than cooking at home...