NHS 'failing to tackle obesity' ??

[sad_mung]

I am gobsmacked.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3188062.stm


I think people just need educating that their arseholes are smaller than their mouths and they should stop shovelling offal into their gobs non-stop. Oh and get off the sofa now and then you lazy blobs.

 

[ECA]

Not sure how its the NHS's fault some ****s are eating too much?

 

[leggy]

Nice attitude fucktards. It's all about education, people just don't know what to eat. This doesn't go for everyone and you can't account for greed and gluttony, but a high percentage of people simply don't know how to eat properly.

The NHS should, to some extend, be responsible for educating that masses on what makes you fat and what doesn't. The government have been pushing a high carb, low fat diet for too many years now which most people know accounts for a big percentage of obesity. We just need to be better educated in the end.

 

[L_Plates]

Originally posted by leggy
Nice attitude fucktards. It's all about education, people just don't know what to eat. This doesn't go for everyone and you can't account for greed and gluttony, but a high percentage of people simply don't know how to eat properly.

The NHS should, to some extend, be responsible for educating that masses on what makes you fat and what doesn't. The government have been pushing a high carb, low fat diet for too many years now which most people know accounts for a big percentage of obesity. We just need to be better educated in the end.

Im sure people know what is good for them and what is not. So i dont think people need educating on this at all.

I think one of the main reasons we have so many obese people is that we work long and hard everyday and never seem to find time to get home and cook a proper healthy meal. It just seems easier to nip past the local Maccy D's or KFC etc etc on the way home from work.

I know our goverment aint the best but you cannot blame them for everything you know. It seems easier these days to blame some on instead of yourself.

I know not everyone is overweight by choice, sometimes it is there bodys that is the problem ( Metabolism - If thats spelt right ) But alot of people it aint.

Go to the gyn , take a walk , jump on a push bick etc etc .....

 

[Summo]

NHS 'failing to tackle obesity'

Excuse me? Since when did making the country less fat fall under the remit of the NHS? As if they've nothing better to do. Surely obesity is a psychological problem to be tackled with education and maybe a nice TV ad campaign.

Criticising the NHS for the country being too fat is like criticising the Fire Brigade for there being too many fires in the country.

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by L_Plates
Im sure people know what is good for them and what is not. So i dont think people need educating on this at all.

That is the point. People don't know. And it's not about what's good for you and what's not, it's about what makes you fat.

People generally are ignorant to the foods that really make you fat. The amount of people at work I see shoveling low fat pish into there mouths every day and complaining about not losing weight is unbelievable. They aren't stopping to realise that low fat food is usually accompanied with fucking loads of sugar.

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by L_Plates

I know not everyone is overweight by choice, sometimes it is there bodys that is the problem ( Metabolism - If thats spelt right ) But alot of people it aint.

Go to the gyn , take a walk , jump on a push bick etc etc .....

this is also complete ignorance sorry. Very few overweight people have a low metabolism, quite the opposite. It's those who use extreme diets that have the low metabolism.

The NHS shouldn't be criticised, all i'm saying is that they should take some responisiblity in educating the masses.

 

[L_Plates]

Originally posted by leggy
this is also complete ignorance sorry. Very few overweight people have a low metabolism, quite the opposite. It's those who use extreme diets that have the low metabolism.

The NHS shouldn't be criticised, all i'm saying is that they should take some responisiblity in educating the masses.

Im sure i said not everyone !!!


Also most food is bad for you its down to the amount you eat most of time. And if you see people at work shovelling shit in there mouth tell them I bet you get abuse off them and then your opinion will change you will think fuck it.

What they eat is up to them not you.

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by L_Plates
What they eat is up to them not you.

You have completely missed the point. It may be up to them, but rest assured they will be looking for someone to blame when their heart stops working and they are wearing trousers with a 40" waiste.

I haven't even mentioned the fact that they will probably develop diabetes and have a stroke.

 

[Insane]

im starving.

*orders large ulster fry*

 

[sad_mung]

Next the NHS will get the blame for not stopping people from smoking........
Oh wait, the NHS do fund advertising warning about the dangers of smoking.....
So if Smoking is obviously bad for you and people need this reinforcing by being fed images and simple statements on the idiot box, what hope do you think there is to get them to stop choking their arteries with grease?

 

[Wij]

Nah, that's bollocks. Most of my fat friends know that they eat too many pies and that they'll get heart disease but they enjoy it. Same with smokers.

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Wij
Nah, that's bollocks. Most of my fat friends know that they eat too many pies and that they'll get heart disease but they enjoy it. Same with smokers.

Your fat friends eat people who smoke ?

 

[sad_mung]

Originally posted by Wij
Nah, that's bollocks. Most of my fat friends know that they eat too many pies and that they'll get heart disease but they enjoy it. Same with smokers.

So you're saying they know it will kill them and they want to die that way or are you saying they know it may kill them but the NHS will pick up the pieces?

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by xane
Your fat friends eat people who smoke ?

They eat anything with a fat layer tbh.

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Wij
They eat anything with a fat layer tbh.

What about Episode VII, when Princess Layer will be preggers ?

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by xane
What about Episode VII, when Princess Layer will be preggers ?

Preggo princess action ? KINKEH

All we need now is a dwarf pissing on her and Star Wars will have reached a new high !!!!

 

[L_Plates]

Originally posted by leggy
You have completely missed the point. It may be up to them, but rest assured they will be looking for someone to blame when their heart stops working and they are wearing trousers with a 40" waiste.

I haven't even mentioned the fact that they will probably develop diabetes and have a stroke.

I understand your concern but at the end of the day thats what they choose to be like.

When they start to moan tell them that they are fat due to what they eat. If they cannot handle the truth thats there own fault.

 

[L_Plates]

Originally posted by sad_mung
So you're saying they know it will kill them and they want to die that way or are you saying they know it may kill them but the NHS will pick up the pieces?

People who smoke know it is killing them yes. If there heart starts to give in well yes the NHS will help.

Im a smoker but i still think if someone goes to hospital due to smoking / eating disorders basically any illness that is self conflicted they should stand aside to other that did not choose there illness.

 

[Wij]

Not smokers. Smokers pay miles more tax than non-smokers. We deserve special treatment tbh

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by leggy
That is the point. People don't know. And it's not about what's good for you and what's not, it's about what makes you fat.

People generally are ignorant to the foods that really make you fat. The amount of people at work I see shoveling low fat pish into there mouths every day and complaining about not losing weight is unbelievable. They aren't stopping to realise that low fat food is usually accompanied with fucking loads of sugar.

Spot on. A recent report showed that a lot of low fat low calorie food carry a lot of transfatty acids which can lead to a load of problems in terms of obesity and heart disease. The reason being is that it is processed and these TFA's are produced as a result of it. So regardless of the calorie count and the saturated fat content, supposed health food could potentially be more harmful than eating a well balanced meal well prepared.

A girl at the place I work eats 4 go ahead bars rather than 1 ordinary cake bar because its the healthier option. FFS

Her Husband has been told to go on a Wheat free diet, so he just eats meat and lots of it. He would think nothin of having a KFC Family bucket to himself. or cooking 4 chicken Breasts in Bacon because that has no Wheat in it. I am sure every body does things to excess from time to time. Its about striking the balance. Excuse the pu but its also about people gettig off their fat lazy arses and finding out about what is good to eat and what is bad to eat instead of pleading ignorance

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by L_Plates
Im a smoker but i still think if someone goes to hospital due to smoking / eating disorders basically any illness that is self conflicted they should stand aside to other that did not choose there illness.

Smoking is addictive, and so is overeating. You try it, eat 5 bars of chocolate in a day, and then try and go without any form of sugar for the next 2 days. Its very, very, hard.

The NHS is responsible for ensuring that the general public are made aware of what a healthy lifestyle should be, and the fact that it can only spend such a paltry amount of money on this just shows how much work there is to do. We need a swing in attitudes in this country, for a nation so obsessed with being slim, its something of a contradiction to walk into any shop that sells food, and to be assaulted by various sugary drinks and chocolate bars. As if the regular sizes weren't enough, the manufacturers are now catering for people's addictions by making even larger versions of their best sellers! Also, look how many of these foods contain hydrogenated vegetable oils, one of the main contributors to high levels of LDL cholesterol, and thus heart disease.

As for the comparisons with the fire brigade, well it is responsible for educating people on fire safety. Without the intervention of the brigade a few years ago, many of us still would not have smoke detectors in our homes, and as a result, there would have been many needless deaths over the intervening period.

 

[sad_mung]

So strictly speaking it's the peddlars of the bad foods and the smokes that should be targetted.
They sell us the evil death sticks and heart stopping crisps etc, they are the ones who need educating.

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by sad_mung
So strictly speaking it's the peddlars of the bad foods and the smokes that should be targetted.
They sell us the evil death sticks and heart stopping crisps etc, they are the ones who need educating.

No its the shareholders of these companies who demand a high return on their investment. Wait a minute its us. We are to blame

 

[L_Plates]

It sounds like you think people cannot educate themselves - shame really as it makes us look thick.


I know what smoking does to me IT AINT HARD

I know what 10 Mars bars does to me IT AINT HARD

FFS come on its common sense we dont need it shoving down our throat !


Eat in moderation is the key.

Dont smoke is the key.

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But everyone does what they want and thats the way it is.

 

[Gekul]

Most people are fat because, and this may shock you, they eat too much. and move too little. It's all too easy to shift responsibility these days.

 

[dysfunction]

Its not the NHS who have any responsibility for people being overweight or should have any obligation to educate people.

Why it is always down to the government to teach people basic knowledge.

This sort of thing should be the parents responsibility. If their children are getting obese then it should be up to them to fix it!

The parents should really educate themselves as to what is good for you to eat etc. It doesnt take a genius to work out a balanced diet and excercise their children. If it starts getting out of hand then go and get advice from your local doctor....as there are quite often other reasons for getting fat other than just diet.


I think this a major problem in this country that people rely too much on the Government to tell them what to do without actually thinking for themselves.

 

[Delboy]

I'd say many a person chooses to ignore the facts and actually kid themselves on with regards to diet.

Some take the "diet" foods to ease their conscience and then pig out knowing full well the consequences. (But stil kid themselves on)

Others dont have the will power, or a strong enough reason to put in the effort required to shed that weight. And it doesnt get easier as you get older.

I know a couple fo nieces who have only past 10, and yet their stomachs look like they'll hit the floor soon. The only remedy is for them to leave home, cos their mother loves cooking and likes her food. Lots of good food, but lots of "phatness" in the food too.

The NHS could help here, but again, it might depends on how the info is presented to the public. We'd need an army of dieticians, and other nutritional experts.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

Nothing wrong wih a 40" waist

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by Gekul
Most people are fat because, and this may shock you, they eat too much. and move too little. It's all too easy to shift responsibility these days.

A bit of a rash generalisation me thinks. If it only it were that simple