NF = working as intended

[acei]

Considering the population imbalance on all servers this should have ALWAYS been the relic status. Why should hib or mid win when they're outnumbered 2-3:1... pre-NF they were winning cause RA's/spell's/abilities were unbalanced... now the game is balanced but the population remains unbalanced. It's why Mythic is so eager to try and balance the population out.

 

[Ormorof]

um working as intentd meaning realm with highest population can hold relics easyer, which TBH is a sign that the realms are balanced (as far as that part of RvR goes). Of course this won't be much fun and is why they are introducing handycaps for realms holding relics other than there own and realms holding lots of keeps.

Its funny that for over 2 years albs have the hardest time defending/taking relics, and the only realm that cannot hold a keep defended by more people than the attackers, let alone unable to take keeps with any number of attackers defended by just a handful full of people without the need for a large number of Trebs (i don't think i've ever seen mids or hibs have to resort to a using Trebs in the same manner as Albs). Now as soon as thing turn in favour of albs they come out with a fix asap, wounder which realm the people at Mythic never play.

keep them coming balbor

albs are winning... thus its balanced

albs can take keeps like everyone else (well apart from hibs with their shrooms of doom)

just because you dont use your pbaoe class is no reason to whine

 

[Driwen]

Btw is there a real overpoweredness in midgards relic taking on excal then? I mean the fact midgard needed to resort to alarmclockraid and albion just didnt do that, doesnt make midgard an actual stronger relic taking force though.

 

[Icebreaker]

Btw is there a real overpoweredness in midgards relic taking on excal then? I mean the fact midgard needed to resort to alarmclockraid and albion just didnt do that, doesnt make midgard an actual stronger relic taking force though.

Thats the Point. Iam sure Albion could hold the Strength Relics on Exalibur if there aren't any Alarmclockraids.

 

[xxManiacxx]

they couldn´t on prydwen 3 relics in 2 days

 

[Driwen]

Thats the Point. Iam sure Albion could hold the Strength Relics on Exalibur if there aren't any Alarmclockraids.

Albion has been able to take the relics from midgard on semi prime time atleast, midgard hasnt from the albs(atleast in a long time).

And you dont know how populations work out, atleast not by just looking at them. Albion is a different realm meaning it looks different the dungeons are slightly different and it probably has access to DF more often in NF, so that means that you cant be exactly sure who has more people RvR'ing which is important. Anyway cba to actually do the check and it is still in albs favour most likely, but it doesnt really have to be.

 

[Balbor]

Considering the population imbalance on all servers this should have ALWAYS been the relic status. Why should hib or mid win when they're outnumbered 2-3:1... pre-NF they were winning cause RA's/spell's/abilities were unbalanced... now the game is balanced but the population remains unbalanced. It's why Mythic is so eager to try and balance the population out.

the population imbalance is down to the name of the game, with many new player going to albion to play sterotypical classes from the camelot mythology (wizards and Paladins being one of albion high number non buff bot classes). Albion also has a healthy number of sterotypical RPG classes (clerics, sorcerers etc). Albion also have the most effective solo to L50 classes, which is something new people the game will find attractive (considering how low level exping is becoming harder and harder to do).

Paladins are the most numouris class (appart from Buffbots) because they are all of these, the classic holy Knight from Camelot, the sterotypical Paladin from RPGs and they are good at solo combat.

 

[Shike]

seem great tbh, z33333rg wins, pryd will be semibalanced though since mids and albs have about same population, hibs will prolly be sandwiched somewhere inbetween and have some relic now and then with alittle luck. Cant complain really, keepsieging, keepcamping, trebbing, camping, oiling, repair doors.. sound great tbh, mucho fun to be had in NF..

uke:

 

[Thegreatest]

Server A H M
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mids are so overpowered..I mean look1!!

 

[Clipse]

whine, about something that hasn't even been released here yet.

 

[Sigurd]

Oh dear. Well, I tried to warn you all...

 

[Flimgoblin]

Oh dear. Well, I tried to warn you all...

and if we'd heeded your warnings we could have....

erm what exactly?

sat about waiting for NF and whinging... oh we did that.

Personally I can't wait for NF - I'd like to get the "albs get all the relics nya nya" version but it looks like we get "everyone has their own and it's bloody hard to get anyone else's" version which still makes us 2 relics up on what we are in OF

 

[rynnor]

I dont think things will go the same way on the euro servers - New frontiers balances the RA's which is a boost to Mid - on the population of Prydwen I would expect Mid to be dominant.

Excaliber is a different case - the population has a much higher proportion of albs but the Mids/Hibs seem to be more rvr centric. If the albs could work together they would undoubtably rule in NF but its a big IF...

I reckon Excaliber will end up more or less balanced (no thanks to mythic

 

[Cyfr]

Oh dear. Well, I tried to warn you all...

What you whined about had nothing to do with this.

 

[Xplo]

mid has 2 great alliances that work together in siege warfare, so it might be fair here on excal

 

[Sigurd]

What you whined about had nothing to do with this.

Wrong! Again. You must have missed my whines about sorcerors and minstrels for the last few months.

 

[Danya]

Wrong! Again. You must have missed my whines about sorcerors and minstrels for the last few months.

Assuming you whined about them, that has nothing to do with this.
Whining about specifc classes is not the same as whining about NF being unbalanced because Albs have the biggest zerg.

 

[Sigurd]

Albs have all the relics because they have the most population AND some overpowered classes. Happy? I'm not - since I don't play alb.

 

[Aeatan]

Actually, I wish they'd just ditch those relics. It's a blatant cover-up for the game's imbalance.

 

[GentlemanSpy]

The relics are set to become highly ping pong items anyways, with the addition of foreign relics being held in regular keeps.

 

[Danya]

Albs have all the relics because they have the most population AND some overpowered classes. Happy? I'm not - since I don't play alb.

Ambivalent, since I don't play DAoC.

You're still changing the question to suit your own agenda, very poor.

 

[Sigurd]

Not really. This was always going to happen in a system as poorly designed as NF.

 

[cougar]

You may take our keeps, but you will never take our relics!!

 

[Archeon]

You may take our keeps, but you will never take our relics!!

Seconded, tbh.

 

[Iceflower]

>You may take our keeps, but you will never take our relics!!

Ye get working on developing proper defence tactics Though it would surprice me if you and the rest of the rvr actives havent started already...

 

[Cyfr]

Cougar is an irl tiger and types with his paws.

 

[Samaroon EatsCheese]

zen have a nap... ZEN FIRE THE MIZzILEZ!!

and australias like W T F Meights ^^

 

[Balbor]

Albs have all the relics because they have the most population AND some overpowered classes. Happy? I'm not - since I don't play alb.

Um pre NF Albion has the same population and they had better, Alb only RAs, yet could not hold relics too well (especially the Power ones). So the other realms must have even more overpowered classes.

Handy-caps are the best way to help balance the game without changing the realms, they really should of done it a long, long time ago.

If NF had gone live and one realm totally dominated the relics and keeps, even on servers where they were outnumbered 4-1 then THAT would be unblanced

 

[Poag]

we had a litte chat about this last night whilst out rvring

The opinion i came up with [but wasn't shared by some other] was that we won't see the same kind of thing that has happened to the US servers.

Why?

Well firstly the alb and mid pops on pryd [i am only talking about pryd here not excal or any other server] are pretty much the same...ish so it should really boil down to albs and mids beating each other up and hibs rushing in from the sides to deal a quick kick in the nuts [like how it was in the way back when]

Also...although its hard to believe sometimes...its my opinion that the players on Pryd are just...smarter than most of the US players...although i have nvr played there myself i do read there forums from time to time.
Think back to when the savage grps came around the yanks laughed it down..and then people like Remi and BO showed them how wrong they were and those grps were accepted and strong.

Ok i know i have been pretty vague here but i do feel that we won't experience the same Alb.....dominance?.... that they have on the US servers...i feel it'll be more balenced out....

Infact i wouldn't be suprised if come NF hibs still didn't own power relics and mids n albs fought it out for the str relics.

Well anyway...thats my thoughts..i'm sure people will disagree with me....but until NF actually arrives theres not much we can say about how it will be as we simply do not know.

But i for one am looking forward to it...change is always fun [yes i even found ToA fun..mls especially fun, cept maybe ml3]

But one thing is certain...there won't be many if any stealth RRs after NF what with needing to hold the keeps back the line and the new Relic Gates...its gonna be a interesting and fun time and i for one look forward to it

edit- couple of typos

 

[tasaroca]

Albion has been able to take the relics from midgard on semi prime time atleast, midgard hasnt from the albs(atleast in a long time).

erm the last rr i was on (the last time we took ower relic back ie the 1st of the aformetioned raids) started approx 30 mins after i got in from work at 6pm gmt i belive that is 7pm cet thats a funny alarmclock uv got there m8y
and it was over by 9pm i dont know what time the second 1 happened but the 1st 1 was as prime time as it gets so plz plz plz try getting some facts before u winne u just make your self look silly ;p