NF or Old Froniters?

[Sardine]

NF rocks, you couldn't get anywhere in OF unles you zergd emain anyway. If you were solo/duo you would last 5 mins max. At least now I can duo with another druid and get RP's, even if I don't get RP's the comedy value of 2 Druids running in and out of zergs is fun, eh Mojo? \o_

 

[Groborthir]

- RAs are k (I am playing with my reaver *cough*) (only the moc duration is bad)

Yeah, you just have to be RR500 to get anything but 1-2 actives and a little passives to improve your char.

- no radar

Well, everyone who can type "/rw" has radar now.

- u know where is the fight, and hows the keeps by the map

Yes, all 100 enemies who will be heading your way within seconds.

- keep fights are better

Yes, standing at a tower watching treb stones fly around for 6 hours is great fun, and I just love how you can't do anything without getting at least 4-5 archers on you the second you get within range of the keeps.

- no more fotm

Word! Especially archers aren't fotm!

 

[Minn]

what Grobo said

 

[Sagano]

kinda liked it at start since there was action everywhere and shitloads of it
but atm its back to pre nf activity and worse the people who are out now are in 2 towers shooting with trebs at each other for hours
if you get close to one of the towers/keeps you get a fg archers assisting on you
so rvr has been reduced to hit a button every 5 min and receiving steady amount of rps for doing nothing ( you get more rps standing afk in a keep then killing half of albions population )

they fixed some issues yes like porting and stuff but they also made a shitload of new ones
they made the gap between casuals and high rr players even bigger ( try getting a decent ra setup at low rr )
pre nf if a gank grp ran into 5fgs they died mostly sometimes with luck they could kill them
now a gank grp runs into 10fg and kills 5fg of them before going down , talk about balance ...

during toa there were no longer *fotm* setups for grps and pretty much all classes were activ in rvr and could actually do something useful
GL these days if you want to play a non ranged class ...

 

[Mojo]

At least now I can duo with another druid and get RP's, even if I don't get RP's the comedy value of 2 Druids running in and out of zergs is fun, eh Mojo? \o_

Vely stlong comedy value


No way we would have pulled that off in OF

 

[remi]

I feel like mercs got fucked over rather badly, both det and pf nerfed to hell now and charge went from free ability to havin to pay for it (even tho it got better yes). Do like new aug str tho :> But overall soloing on my merc has gone from bad to worse, and groups on merc are rare still ;x
I do on the other hand love nf on my cleric, easy to get groups for some reason and cleric ra are kinda nice, now I just need some lvl's

why are you crying noobie? look what savage got.

(major fubared)

 

[Dreami]

Old Frontiers

 

[GimpStrole]

Someone explain about Flames and stuff, I'm confused.

NF does sound good, but knowing me after 20 minutes of playing there I would get bored and want old frontiers back. Same thing happened with ToA, was fun looking at new areas and doing encounters, but after a while the same old bullshit just didn't appeal to me anymore

 

[Blackdeath]

NF sawks tbh :/

 

[Haggus]

Old Frontiers

 

[Sycho]

during toa there were no longer *fotm* setups for grps

Bullcrap xD

Tone archers down so light tanks aren't human pin cushions.

Make some ra's less expensive.

Nerf boiling oil xD

Make bounty points buy master levels/toa items so you do not have to do it again with another character...

 

[Arthemis]

Bullcrap xD

Tone archers down so light tanks aren't human pin cushions.

Would prolly be a good idea not that funny to play solo light tank / hybrid anymore :!

 

[Marchus]

Yeah, you just have to be RR500 to get anything but 1-2 actives and a little passives to improve your char.

Well, everyone who can type "/rw" has radar now.

Yes, all 100 enemies who will be heading your way within seconds.

Yes, standing at a tower watching treb stones fly around for 6 hours is great fun, and I just love how you can't do anything without getting at least 4-5 archers on you the second you get within range of the keeps.

Word! Especially archers aren't fotm!

Yep, true. Your opinion is not = with mine -p
It depends on what side you see it... I like my new RA setup for my reaver, it's better then it was (imo).

/rw is not a "realy" radar. Gang groups can't fight with just low rr groups, escape easily from zerg, and find the soloers...

"- u know where is the fight, and hows the keeps by the map"
I meant that u know where is the action, and what places should u avoid, or go to there.

And yep, mebbe for a pure fighter keep takes are not good any more, but I love it when the stupid zerg just rush up, and I can use my pbaoe RAs, MLs. Or when they are hitting door, or they are in a 500 radius...

Wasn't accuary... More classes are able to get into a group now, and they are able to do something, not just the really built fotm groups...

---> IMO <---​

 

[Sagano]

you give me the fotm setups for toa mister sycho im waiting ...

no mid grps had same setups neither did alb or hib ones
you should play more maybe you would notice

 

[Xxcalibur]

i preffer old frontier with one hpk in emain

 

[Sycho]

you give me the fotm setups for toa mister sycho im waiting ...

no mid grps had same setups neither did alb or hib ones
you should play more maybe you would notice

They still only used 5-7 classes max.

That's how the game works though just like most others where you select classes, some people pick all, some people pick the best ones and ignore the others.Also mids/albs never ran with more than 2 casters on many occassions before ToA and now they have became more common since the way mythic changed the game, people adjust to the game's mechanics just like all the archers rolling now with their range advantages from higher structures ingame.

 

[Anar]

/wave Gimp :-P long time no see

Me and stacey are going to the dark side :-P so come and try WoW imo. give me a ring and ill let you loose on scout if you like so you can see for yourself what NF is like.

l8r :wub:

 

[Sagano]

rofl sycho such excuses just name me the setups but you cant do you ?

friar/thane/champ/mentalist are the classes i didnt see much even after toa and seems like NF even opened up rvr for those classes also now
which is a good thing i guess

 

[GimpStrole]

/wave Gimp :-P long time no see

Me and stacey are going to the dark side :-P so come and try WoW imo. give me a ring and ill let you loose on scout if you like so you can see for yourself what NF is like.

l8r :wub:

Alrite mate

Duno if I can be bothered with another MMORPG, takes too much time, which I dont have atm

 

[Sycho]

rofl sycho such excuses just name me the setups but you cant do you ?

friar/thane/champ/mentalist are the classes i didnt see much even after toa and seems like NF even opened up rvr for those classes also now
which is a good thing i guess

It's not excuses, you saying people never change set up when a major part of the game is changed, if you saying people change groups as soon as these changes take effect and it's not fotm well that's silly because they would of ran all the time in first place then wouldn't they.I am not saying it's wrong or right, i am just saying what you said is untrue which it is.

Hibs on the other hand never really changed their fgs at all simply because mythic designed their fgs to work better at the time(GP) aswell as caster fgs being the way to go in the current situation of the game.

 

[Esselinithia]

OF had a few problems. RvR was one key to the success of DaOC it made the game unique, and for this reasons it should be open to most. Yet it had a few real problems:

• Defending homeland had no real advantage
• Most action happened in underpopulated realms frontier, others were able to port they had to walk. This made the stronger realms even stonger, the underpopulated even weaker.
• It was easy to get very strong RAs and a low RR group had very slight chances against a higher RR group.
• Causal players had almost no chances against the high RR groups of 1fg elite RvR guilds, no fun for them
• Some of the said guilds weren't to busy with keep claiming and getting DF in a lot of time, roaming was more fun for them, and they ignored everyone else.
• A lot of classes were locked out of RvR
• A lot of classes were limited in speccs: You had no chance to specc a character how you would like them, but had one RvR specc

This hurt the interests of great majority of players. The ones who enjoyed the benefits and forgot that it ruins the game for others, and if these players get fed up and move, end of realm and end of game are responsible for the end of the days of OF. It had to be changed, and it had to be ended. Their superiority and their "exclusive roaming fun" had to be ended.

If they are thinking they want their old fg vs fg fights for a lot of RPs they will be disappointed. If they want fun with many friends who avoided frontiers before, and they don't mind brining a few extra trebuchets to make siege faster, don't mind to buy a warship and use siege hookpoints for coastal tower / keep takes, etc. it opens new possibilities and new horizons. The issues it creates are minor for the majority, and I don't feel sorry for the people who lost their fun at ruining the game for everyone else.

 

[GimpStrole]

I take it DF is less camped with NF out, or am I wrong again?

 

[Azathrim]

NF rocks.

You can:
1) most often log on and find instant keep sieges.
2) run your fg opted and fast find something to fight.
3) run small groups/non-opted if you hug the zerg.

Those that whine about NF are most often the old gank group people that haven't yet learned to adjust to NF. It's their own fault for not bothering though - because gank groups have more to do in NF than they did in OF. Difference is, that the casual players now also have something to do.

Yay for NF!

 

[Sagano]

to sycho :

pre toa all grps had exact same setup in mid , because every patch there always 1 kind of setup that was far superior

after toa you just need a decent utility/dmg balance whatever classes you use for that aint important
so *fotm setups* are dead , fotm classes aint and maybe this whole shit is fotm but one thing is certain the times of everyone running same setup ( aka fotmgrps ) are over
and now you can abstract this shit and play with words as much as you want but there is no standard setup anymore for any realm.

 

[koxi]

Hmm.. i'm a hunter & in NF it's alot easyer to make rp's.. but i'm bored standing on a keepwall shooting arrows.. ofc I can sneak around near bridges or 'flames' on the map, but bridges are heavily camped.. It's fun when it's 100+ vs 100+ on a keep, but when 2 fg's are camping a tower u need a zerk to drive them out or they can camp it forever.. I tell myself i miss Emain as it were in OF, but then again.. Emain was VERY zerky in the days before NF..

Dunno.. think NF is much too keep oriented.. I'm a hunter for christ sake! I should be dancing around kissing the sky..., but i'm actually a bit bored.. =/

Givf a BG for lvl 50 maby ??

 

[Saggy]

after toa you just need a decent utility/dmg balance whatever classes you use for that aint important
so *fotm setups* are dead , fotm classes aint and maybe this whole shit is fotm but one thing is certain the times of everyone running same setup ( aka fotmgrps ) are over
and now you can abstract this shit and play with words as much as you want but there is no standard setup anymore for any realm.

Actually there is fotm groups for each realm: For Albs its a group based on Body-damage, for Mids its a group based on Cold-damage and for Hibs its a group based on Heat-damage (hint: self-debuffers).

Pre-ToA:
Cleric
Cleric
Minstrel
Sorc
Paladin
Det-tank
Det-tank
Random

NF:
Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Sorc
Cabby
Cabby
random (caster )
random (caster )

Of course there is plenty of other (working) group setups, those are just the "fotms" (for Alb) ;o

 

[Sycho]

and now you can abstract this shit and play with words as much as you want but there is no standard setup anymore for any realm.

Such ignorance over nothing.

You have a fair point but still you not realising the only reason there was a standard set group for the realms pre toa was because of all the competing shit in this game, there's no reason a alb/mid caster fg couldn't of did good pre toa it's just tanks had it easier then which you say but not "far superior" type of group.

This will always be in every game since everyone is human and it's usually a thing we have, like driving a ferrari f40 or a porsche 911 carrera, most people would pick the ferrari but not realising the porsche could perform near it's standards aswell if the driver was good.

But you got your own opinion and i have mine, fair enough.

 

[Sagano]

yes very fotm setup not seen 1 activ grp like that on prydwen

and rofl at sycho keep on going youll be talking about chinese food soon

 

[CstasY]

and now you can abstract this shit and play with words as much as you want but there is no standard setup anymore for any realm.

Insulting people who havent/wouldnt insult you back makes you angelic mate! Keep believing it!


Fucking retard.

 

[Sycho]

yes very fotm setup not seen 1 activ grp like that on prydwen

and rofl at sycho keep on going youll be talking about chinese food soon

Yeah i might have to talk about chingongulua soon then you will finally realise what i am on about eh?xD