NF or Old Froniters?

[Marchus]

Well, there are some good thingies, and some bad thingies in it.
What I like:
- RAs are k (I am playing with my reaver *cough*) (only the moc duration is bad)
- no more 1k dmg from casters (or is it just meh?)
- more chance for solo playing, and random groups
- no more waiting for Visur ^^
- no radar
- u know where is the fight, and hows the keeps by the map
- keep fights are better
- cool towers
- no more grapple
- no more fotm
- tireless 1
- u can invite while in combat, and from a very long range
- los
- nice graphic, mor epeeps can be displayed without bad lag
- relic system
- sometimes zerg in 500 radius when I place twf3, etc...
- siege stuffs

What I don't like:
- campers at docks
- df is still netural -p
- swamp
- sometimes water fights
- less rp for lower RRs
- archers
- zephyr out from boat
- sometimes zerg
- some things on map
- some RAs
- too many towers/keeps in one place


theese things get into my mind atm. Imo NF is good with some bad stuff. Nothing can be perfect ^^

 

[Maddude]

NF destroyed most of the fun that was be4 nf with the zerker, however i find my huntress and bonedancer more fun atm, but i really gonna try to get my zerker up for the NF siege bitching ><

 

[Arthemis]

Maybe OF wasn't so funny as hib stealther when you "had" to run to emain for the action... But think there was also the place called odins where you could port to..

Theres no reason to QQ if you have one of the classes which has range! But if you enjoyed to run solo with a meelee class then you're so much more doomed now.

I used to solo quite often with my skald a month or two before NF, stealther adds wasn't such a big problem to me but in NF archer sare everywhere! If i take a run today i will get shot dead by either the archer and the add or a caster which will kill me so fast i dont have any chance to see which direction the person came from. Grouping is a possible way to survive these things but constantly standing at towers waiting for the casters and catapults to kill the enemy so you can go kill the captain / lord isn't really that funny.

(I like some of the things NF added of course: no waiting for gothi / glasny / wizard to port, New RAs, new keep designs etc. )

So well some classes have been improved in rvr - the ranged ones...
Us with mostly meelee abilities can't really do anythin that waiting outside towers and the maybe we get lucky and can get close enough to land a hit if our healers can keep us alive..... So I say: OF > NF!

 

[leviathane]

get rid of all the damn ARCHERS and NF would be the best thing for rvr, but atm nf annoys me with the constant lameass archers about.

 

[remi]

if there is 60albs in a keep, 50 of them are scouts.

 

[MaditioN]

19.00: Login, start grp.
19.30: Port out and start look on /rw for flames, ok flames only at keeps.
19.35: At alb/hib coast by boat, start roaming around keeps to get fg(fg+) fights.
20.30: Grp deicides to take a keep to get some enemies to fight.
20.40: 2 enemies comes running, they die -OR- 10FG enemies comes running, we die.
20.55: Take boat to hib/alb coast, start roam and deicides not to take keep because only the ones with range dmg can have fun.
21.00: Roaming looking for fg/2fg/zerg to fight.
22.00: Still roaming, refuse to attack a keep and get zerged/take a keep because the boringness percent is to high at keeps.
23.00: Logout and login Thidranki toon and curse NF, in thid you can atleast still get action without attack a keep.

That was my latest rvr night, sure we took a keep and let albs bring doors down, maybe 7-8 fg albs, we jumped the backside and killed 3-4 fg's behind before we died. But do you really need to attack a fucking keep to get action? first 2 days of NF was great, loads of roaming ppl checking out NF, then it died, even more dead than the end of OF.

Sure i can understand that NF is fun for archers/casters with ranged to kill stuffs from keeps, but tanks/healers(afk at wall with SH button jammed in) aint my game, so canceled my subs and will play thid with my staff sb, warr or zerk until acc goes out, maybe will try a rvr evening more if remi force me.
But like last time, i let remi lead instead because it was so fucking boring to just run around and look for nothing thats there, impossible to keep a group together when roaming for 4h and not finding a singel fg to fight.

ps. come thid and rejoice the über action without attacking a keep! .ds

edit: run close to a keep: 4 grp dies to 40 assisting scouts = jajajajaj xdDD the spanish bois r back!

 

[remi]

well, scouts are the fucking scum of this game, hope they all die irl xD

 

[MaditioN]

well, scouts are the fucking scum of this game, hope they all die irl xD

yepp

 

[Falukropp]

The intention with NF was definitely good, too bad they did two royal f*ckups. It's too easy to gather up zergs, and zerging is way too rewarding.

 

[atos]

Too bad you can still be targeted inside lordrooms and nuked to death. Well done with that code Mythic. /clap.

I would like a combination of the old fronteirs and the new RAs.

 

[Falukropp]

Atos, that's just the usual kind of daoc crappiness. Nothing that really has to do with NF :>

 

[Animus]

New RA's (for a caster) suck! In OF at RR7, i could get juicy stuff like moc, mota3, wp3, mom2, aug dex2, purge, mcl.

Come NF and i got something like: Purge2, wp3, mcl1, aug dex 3, aug acu 3.

 

[Minn]

Just wondering what people thought of NF, is it any better than the old frontiers?

Was it worth me quitting , or is NF the best add-on so far?

dont like NF much, its all about keeptake/defence, u rarely get nice fights because u only meet the alb/hibb zerg....

so... gib back old frontier

 

[Aussie]

well, scouts are the fucking scum of this game, hope they all die irl xD

k

 

[vintervargen]

NF but with old frontiers, and without the milegates.

oh and remove relics.

 

[remi]

k

its teh truth, and jo know it xD

 

[Ilum]

old frontiers actually had a better balanced ra system, and you had a lot more varation in the rvr tbh .. it's not like you couldn't get keep action in OF. OF was deffo a lot more fun to play in.

 

[Zapsi]

1 Roam find nothing , 2 fight teh zerg , 3 log , after some weeks I think its gonna be easy to pick.

 

[raid]

NF isnt as bad as I thought based on US comments but still I'd take old frontiers back anytime including old RAs. Reasons pretty much mentioned many times in this thread already Oh and in case none said it before, the amount of archers is just disgusting.

 

[xxManiacxx]

NF by Far better: no more waiting for ports - no more running all the way to emain - insta action - cool new tools for big battle - multi choise for 1v1 fights ( had 20 + solo fights yesterday witch would have been impossible in old NF ) and the wather aspect in btl´s gives u even more possibilities.

Ofc i understand the Gang laming mids who ganged me loooooots of time in OF even before i could start having fun in emain, now if i meet em i can Shoot any of em i like, run to a tower and nothing much they can do about it.
U realy expect me to feel sorry for em, having to use a map we all have now
and be a little creative to find nice fights???

And for the albs who only had to port emain and walk 1 min to find the only action in the game ( AMG/E ), just next to multible stealthers and fg´s passing from thier own realm, for em to feel more safe. Feel sorry for em ???

And ofc a few Hibs who had the possibility to run in good groups, and knew that running Emain would bring acction for sure, want me to feel sorry for em, when now all hibs have a chanse to have a good rvr time ???

Now i see action in all Alb - Hib - Mid every night, peeps seem to forget that.

The Game is now much faster and more userfriendly peeps seem to forget that.

U can join a lvl 45 + team in pve on ur new lvl 20 toon now, and do dammege on the mobs so far easyer to lvl. peeps seem to forget that.

U can earn Great monny in only doing rvr now, so u dont have to stop rvr, to pve farm for a nice item u need ( i already earned quite some p in NF only on rvr ) peeps seem to forget that.

U can rvr all the way from lvl 1 to lvl 50 now too if thats what u like, peeps seem to forget that.

And belive me i could go on, so as i see it: the only peeps who dont like NF more than OF, is either one of the albs - Mids - or Hibs i described above, or they havent used a little time find the best action for em....

So stop the QQ about OF, and accept u cant run on easy mode, same way u could before, and start use a little brain, to find out how the game could serve u the way u want to play it, in the best way possible....

You seem to forget that you are playing 1 of the classes that´s actually usefull in every situation nowadays. try play a bm in a 3 hour long keep deff/attack or something instead.

 

[Coldbeard]

deffo old frontiers. The worst part is that I diddnt like that much either ;p

 

[InertiaSlave]

Roll on 1.72 porting changes. Take 3 remote towers quick before enemy react, and they have to run around open field. And they usually won't be going there with 10fg zerg seeing as it's only a tower.

Quote time. Sabranic is a member of Knightwatch on mid/galahad (who fought gank guilds such as Bedlam, Hoss, Stout, Rush mainly, before moving alb on another server). This is post-1.72.

What we do when we are looking for trouble is to load up on 9 rams, and then proceed to make the combined level 3 ram and take 3 strategic (and remote) alb or hib towers – thus cuting off all their teleporting. We then roam inbetween the docks and border keeps, whiping enemies as they try to get to docks/keeps.

I dunno. This is a guy who takes ganking just as seriously as Remi, MaditioN and whoever, saying that due to 1.72 porting changes, you just have to bash up 3 towers real quick, and then you can have a fun night doing FGvsFG, or fighting small zergs. Take it for what you will, but I'd stick around for a while yet

 

[Eroda]

Playing now as a casual player, i prefer NF alot more. I cant be arsed spending time to make proper groups so can just head to a keep on my own if necessary and still have some fun.

Guess its frustrating if you put the effort in to make a nice balanced group and then end up with nothing but keep fights. Still i think the game needed NF to keep it alive, least theres actually people out all the time now, back in the old frontiers it was often very hit and miss.

 

[nikolas]

I've noticed a sharp increase in the amount guildies enjoying RvR since NF was patched. I'm also seeing an increase in the realm points they are gaining on our XML stats.

For me personally i'm loving it. I wasn't keen on old school rvr. I found it boring at times and many time difficult to compete as a stealther and even more difficult as a grouped rvr member in a casual group. I'm finding that the realm unbalances which at times were more obvious in emain are now far far less an issue.

Our casual guild groups are now staying out longer, getting more action and finding it far more enjoyable. So they group more and enjoy rvr more.

 

[Keres]

NF>OF

Personally hated OF due to the amount of Stealther/Gank groups that always camped the MG and forced to try and get through. Least with NF you can port anywhere although I won't disagree with the lameness of Archer classes, got shot by 6 archers at a tower last night in the space of 3 seconds

 

[fungus]

I like the NF layout much flatter so less hilly less getting jumped ;-), what i dont like is that ppl bunch up to zerg, but thats prolly the new thing about NF i suppose it will get less zergy after a while.
Another BIG minus is NF made archers pop everywhere, not only in the enemy realm but also in your own realm, less group chars 2 play with

 

[Zlugugg Benvis]

Roll on 1.72 porting changes. Quote time. Sabranic is a member of Knightwatch on mid/galahad (who fought gank guilds such as Bedlam, Hoss, Stout, Rush mainly, before moving alb on another server). This is post-1.72.
Take it for what you will, but I'd stick around for a while yet

I like NF more then OF ... and the post above might help others like it more too. Dont know what to do about all dem archers though

 

[Mojo]

I think NF kicks arse,

I have had much more fun grouped/solo/duo with 4 of my chars without any problems. OF was no place for a solo rr1, in NF this is no problem.

 

[cHodAX]

I dunno. This is a guy who takes ganking just as seriously as Remi, MaditioN and whoever, saying that due to 1.72 porting changes, you just have to bash up 3 towers real quick, and then you can have a fun night doing FGvsFG, or fighting small zergs. Take it for what you will, but I'd stick around for a while yet

The guy plays on a US server and that says alot, if someone takes 3 of your towers and cuts off your portals then you just get boats and do the same in thier backyard. It is plain stupid to go head-to-head with a gank squad when it is on thier terms anyway, to keep running all the way back to try retake those towers shows a really lack of tactics.

 

[Straef]

I feel like mercs got fucked over rather badly, both det and pf nerfed to hell now and charge went from free ability to havin to pay for it (even tho it got better yes). Do like new aug str tho :> But overall soloing on my merc has gone from bad to worse, and groups on merc are rare still ;x
I do on the other hand love nf on my cleric, easy to get groups for some reason and cleric ra are kinda nice, now I just need some lvl's