NF inc. Need a new alarmclock debate?

[Tay]

funny that the only way you can get them is by a relic reset, knowing that you have never been able to hold onto them even when midgard took pitty on you and gave you one. Midgard have kept hold of strength relics hibs power. saying that alb have done a fantastic job of holding amg emain.

lol are you refering to getting them or holding them?

We have got relics before, I agree that we have an issue holding them tho.

As for Mids holding Str and Hibs pwr OMFG what planet are you on....

I dont recall the last time Hibs held a str relic for any time whatsoever, likewise the mids hanging on to the pwr for any lenght of time...

Both sides are so desperate to keep them, they will do anything required to get them back.

 

[Clipse]

If we do any rrs apart from the albionian set "prime time" vs 400-600 albs

There is "primetime" "normal hours" and "out-of-hours", don't base all your arguments on "non-primetime" when basically most midd Raids happen in "out-of-hours".

 

[Vaar]

You're obviously somewhat challenged so I'll say it slowly.

R E A D The post!

There can be no debate or discussion because you are posting to a small minority of the Excal server, there is no community to discuss this.

Just troll elsewhere, wtf did you expect to get when you posted "NF inc, Need a new alarmclock debate?" When you start a thread with that as your topic you're gonna get abuse.

Its old, it's boring.

/Undismiss

Most of THOSE points I can accept as valid arguments Tay. When I choose to take the meaning behind rather than the wording as the important.

I do infact belive a number (many?) of GM's/officers/active players uses theese boards to orient themselves about our server. When we discussed camping "rules" for arties for instance, and come up with an "understanding", this "understanding" will spread to even the players which not frequent FH. It's NOT a enforced rule by anyone. Still many ppl play by it... Have such understandings any value? Well.. I was allowed 5 minutes to gather a group, when an artymob popped. That made me a happy duck. Would I have flamed the guild in question if they had CHOSEN not to give me a shot? Nah... There are no rule from Goa/Mythic.

I do not know of any better place to get an impression of the "community" than here...

What did I expect. Well:
-Insights. Which I posted in post.
-Abuse. Yep. Have normally little troble with abuse (have worked on phonesupport ).

Ppl "semiflaming" (your intial post was np really) me after I made a "thread-conclusion"... I could have expected that too. But that kind of response do not make me impressed. I could of course let sleeping dogs lie... Well, I could have... Didn't.

Notice how Fenrisa responded to the same treatment from my side...? /salute Fenrisa.

Boring subject? Well. I think not, therefore I post. Then again I would rank just about any thread over the gratz threads, which are so abdundant here... Like with the gratz threads. Don't read if you don't care... I don't read gratzes unless they are like for Jimmy or Montarloo...

Old topic? Yep. Last real thread really discussing AC-raids I can remember was in November on BW. I may very well have missed some in between. But there have not been many... I think you can survive seeing a post that, from your PoV, is pointless every now and then...

So can we be friends now...? No need to hug.

 

[Xajorkith]

And mids frequently posted stating that 9am UK time was actually 10am cet, what is your point exactly?

Love to know where you get your numbers that most of mid is in CET.

Is that 51%? 90% ? show us yer stats.

There are a huge proportion of Danes (not the dogs), Swedes (not the vegetable), Dutch and Norwegians on Mid. Black Company was (I don't know if it still is) full of Russians.

Don't Albs have Spaniards and predominantly British and Hibs the Greeks?

Albs can thank the "Albion Alarm Clock Master" Finster for starting the whole Alarm Clock raid thing off.

 

[Ardamel]

And mids frequently posted stating that 9am UK time was actually 10am cet, what is your point exactly?

Love to know where you get your numbers that most of mid is in CET.

Is that 51%? 90% ? show us yer stats.

Here's is a liddul (highly unscientific) investigation as to how many scandinavians play on mid. These screens were taken during the retake of the relics after the paladin-engage night raids:

We were about 90 ppl in the BG at the time. The list went on and on and on As you can see, not all the replies are visible.

 

[Ardamel]

So when I say most, I mean way over 50%. The English is a minority on mid/excal.

 

[Draylor]

The English is a minority on mid/excal.

What makes you think Alb/excal is any different? Its not

 

[Tazock]

People should take relics whenever they want..

In NF i Think hibs is going to do best. They have the best offensive in keeptakes and defense and It will become better with patches..and seem to have some organisation
Albs where never interested very much in relics and I think they stay doing so, mostly due of the casual player and will lack the abilities.
Mids on a second place, cause they seem to have some organisation, but will lack the abilities.

 

[Vaar]

As stated earlier I have no sure prediction of which Excal-realm will come out best regarding relics in NF. We can use the Yanks as a hint, but I think we will experience big differences from the "general" US outcome.

Relic count will IMO be determined by in order of importance (MY uneducated ranking included):

1. Organization (and willingness to endure the laggy keepfights) (Hib>Alb>Mid)
2. Number of casuals joining the struggle. (Which are theoretically pretty even on Excal compared to a lot of US servers) (Alb>Mid>Hib)
3. Doubleteaming. The ones that displays the first sign of weakness MAY be screwed for a long time.(Alb>Hib/Mid??? or any other combo)
4. Ranged capabillities (Alb>Hib>Mid) NOTE this will SEEM to be a larger factor, since this is what will actually kill you
5. Numer of GG who take a stand for the realm.(Hib>Mid>Alb)
6. Willingness to AC-raids (Mid=Alb=Hib)


But those are only speculations. Maybe we should start another thread with that subject. The again it may be to boring...

 

[Tay]

/Undismiss

Most of THOSE points I can accept as valid arguments Tay. When I choose to take the meaning behind rather than the wording as the important.

You can selectivly ignore or consider them valid comments all you like, what I stated initially still stands, I simply restated (twice) the same point of view.

I do infact belive a number (many?) of GM's/officers/active players uses theese boards to orient themselves about our server. When we discussed camping "rules" for arties for instance, and come up with an "understanding", this "understanding" will spread to even the players which not frequent FH. It's NOT a enforced rule by anyone. Still many ppl play by it... Have such understandings any value? Well.. I was allowed 5 minutes to gather a group, when an artymob popped. That made me a happy duck. Would I have flamed the guild in question if they had CHOSEN not to give me a shot? Nah... There are no rule from Goa/Mythic.

I am a GM and I would NEVER agree to this, why should my guilds gaming times or my gaming times determine what can and cannot happen elsewhere in the game?.

As for an "understanding", it is quite clear that people exist that show no respect to others in the game. People need to exercise no more than common sense when dealing with Artifacts.

People from all sides can be to blame, most adults deal with the issue of Artifacts in an acceptable fashion, the problem here is that acceptable means differant things to differant people..

I do not know of any better place to get an impression of the "community" than here...

What did I expect. Well:
-Insights. Which I posted in post.
-Abuse. Yep. Have normally little troble with abuse (have worked on phonesupport ).

Ppl "semiflaming" (your intial post was np really) me after I made a "thread-conclusion"... I could have expected that too. But that kind of response do not make me impressed. I could of course let sleeping dogs lie... Well, I could have... Didn't.

Thats you though, you should not expect people to respond how you think they should, they can respond how they wish, if you take offence or don't understand the response that is not the posters fault unless they are specifically targeting you..

 

[Tay]

There are a huge proportion of Danes (not the dogs), Swedes (not the vegetable), Dutch and Norwegians on Mid. Black Company was (I don't know if it still is) full of Russians.

Don't Albs have Spaniards and predominantly British and Hibs the Greeks?

Albs can thank the "Albion Alarm Clock Master" Finster for starting the whole Alarm Clock raid thing off.

Alb has members from all over the world, I wouldnt dare to speculate on thier locations or population..

I would suggest that many people treat these forums as a guildeline to who is from where and what realm they are in, FH Albs have some erm very vocal CET locate players..

 

[Tay]

Here's is a liddul (highly unscientific) investigation as to how many scandinavians play on mid. These screens were taken during the retake of the relics after the paladin-engage night raids:

We were about 90 ppl in the BG at the time. The list went on and on and on As you can see, not all the replies are visible.

As you stated its highly unscientific.

Interesting nonetheless tho.