nf and tanks

Jimmeh

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whats the point in being a tank in NF? rarely do i get to hit anything and when i do get to hit something other than a door, its a sorc and they pop their RR5 RA and im hitting styled fully buffed for 23...

any1 had good experiences being a tank because im really thinking its not worth even playing any more.
 

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I really like suicide runs... Just charge into albzerg or hibgrps, use ml8 banelord ability and scroll up later and see how much i hitted ppl for ;)
 

Zaphira

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aye tanks are pure leech classes now in NF..
Warrior with high MoB guarding a RM can come quite close to the albs without having to bite the grass because of those god damn awfull scouts throwing their little darts at you.
Thats about the only thing i do these days with my warrior and i dont even like playing him.
 

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bind to tower captain/keep lord, go mental, /recall, wait till you can bind again :)
 

Jergiot

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Jimmeh said:
whats the point in being a tank in NF? rarely do i get to hit anything and when i do get to hit something other than a door, its a sorc and they pop their RR5 RA and im hitting styled fully buffed for 23...

any1 had good experiences being a tank because im really thinking its not worth even playing any more.


sm pet>sorc rr5 ra
 

Javlar

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Well i guess you could say that the tanks (not including lighttanks) role has shifted even more from being damagedealers to being support with high offensive capabilities.

I <3 having a good hero (Hestethun /huggles) in my group, either perma bg'ing and guarding me or shifting around the group.

But seriously the heros/armsmans/warriors job has always been to bg/guard for support, only now its excelled even more towards that end. So thinking OoOo lets go whack shit in the assisttrain doesnt really work any more.

And as for lighttanks i still think they play a very important role, although i understand keepbattles probably suck alot as any tank.

Quite frankly: Thats nf for you :( :( :(
 

Xajorkith

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It is a sad state, I looked up how many active Warriors were in White Rose, just 3, and I don’t play mine.

I see many Tanks (all 3 realms) now manning and "muleing" siege. Tanks mainly seem to operate rams when the oil is up due to their high hit point and proper armour, and manning trebuchets were they are immune to archer’s sticks and can kill assassins without too much of a problem.

Tanks guarding a caster which allows casters to get into the front row of battle can be a neat tactic; it certainly annoys me that I can't pepper their cloth with Mr Bodkin!

I really do wish there were more of the old fashioned roaming l33t groups around (NP, Blizzard, RG etc), during a siege I often wonder at what damage an uber group do to all the lowbie casters looking in the wrong direction, or used to annihilate all the poorly set up “siege” groups leaving keeps or getting off boats….. I suppose we will never know.
 

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Lothandar said:
Scout adds > the poor pincushion looking sm pet.


To add to your "omg sm pet is overpowerated" comment :|

actually compared to loads of other rr5 ras sorc one is overpowered to, still dont change the fact that sm pet is simply better, so whats the point in whining about the sorc ra ? Oo not like im lying/making things up...
 

Alithiel

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Zerg is range warfare, it's in smaller skirmishes that tanks really come into their own. Particularly light tanks.

For a tank to have any fun in NF, they really need to avoid the zerg and have some good fg vs fg fights - whether open RvR or tower siege/defense.
 

Spamb0t

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Lothandar said:
Scout adds > the poor pincushion looking sm pet.


To add to your "omg sm pet is overpowerated" comment :|

not like sorc can do anything except running after he used rr5 ra!
sm can still cast when pet is intercepting.
 

Jergiot

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Spamb0t said:
not like sorc can do anything except running after he used rr5 ra!
sm can still cast when pet is intercepting.

he cant run either :D
 

Booze

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oh my god.

heavy tanks are useful!! :D

as long u know what to do.

Lazza
 

rvn

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ofcourse they are they can be afk bots stuck to a caster to prevent arrows.. but then again thats just as fun as being chaingrappled or getting zerged by ml9chainstunningcabalistpets.
 

Tsolias

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It's all a matter on how u adapt in this new game style frigg nf provided us....either u give up, reroll or as i mentioned adapt....and in my case i usually use 2 duo/trio w/ a skald and a warr or even solo if i had 2! It worked 4 me i guess since i needed bout 160k 2 ding rr7 from 6l8 and took me 5 dayz...but that's not the point...point is how much u wanna play ur tank and finding a way 2 do so!!!!
Just my 2cents...and yes i'm one of those that r nostalgic of old emain fgrp rvr....but that's gone unfortunately....actually i hope by 2morrow i find that site where u can download all kinds of free daoc servers and post it....some even have the 1.50 patch Oo...


Tsolias
 

Sanzor

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NF did the reverse thing to me as what OF did. Now im getting rps, mostly by running solo buffed around bledmeer late nights or early morning.

It does suck thou when your in the keep firing siegeweapons, although aiming at avalonians and scouts with Pallintones are amusing :-P

Warriors do fine guarding archers/casters on walls so they don´t get shot down by enemy archers.

But yes, heavy tanks has less to offer in NF atm due to most rvr activity being keep battles.
Btw, rr5 sorc thingie might be nasty, but if your rr5 warrior, then just pop Testudo and let em waste their power :-P
 

Danord_durin

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Pre NF wars actually could be played both ways in the same time offensive/defensive depending on the situation of the battle.. Now all u can do is bg casters wich is about as boring as firering siege equipment.
 

Jpeg[LOD]

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Jimmeh said:
whats the point in being a tank in NF? rarely do i get to hit anything and when i do get to hit something other than a door, its a sorc and they pop their RR5 RA and im hitting styled fully buffed for 23...

any1 had good experiences being a tank because im really thinking its not worth even playing any more.


form a group and ROAM .. i have a scout and friar .. and scouts r considered uber fun and rp farming machines in NF. but.... i have had more fun in NF with my Friar by far. so much so that i have barely gotten 20k rp's since NF was released with scout. because i have been having tons of fun on my friar.

roaming around or staying near keep sieges killing inc defenders is fun....


if u think NF or tanks is ALL about standing at a keep bashing doors. then u obviously have the zerg mentality. roam around a bit and enjoy NF thats whats im doing ,
 

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Jpeg[LOD] said:
form a group and ROAM .. i have a scout and friar .. and scouts r considered uber fun and rp farming machines in NF. but.... i have had more fun in NF with my Friar by far. so much so that i have barely gotten 20k rp's since NF was released with scout. because i have been having tons of fun on my friar.

roaming around or staying near keep sieges killing inc defenders is fun....


if u think NF or tanks is ALL about standing at a keep bashing doors. then u obviously have the zerg mentality. roam around a bit and enjoy NF thats whats im doing ,

how the fuck can u decide for someone else what is fun or not....
Roam? well I'm not in for getting a fg fight every 10/15 mins were u have 80% chance that u will get adds from one of the sides.

Look some ppl really only like fg or solo or duo rvr, some like the big siege fights. But try to respect that?
So far i didn't have much fun in NF, keeptakes are really so boring for me. and roaming with fg is not always that fun anymore :) (oh and don't come with those bs story's bout no relics etc..)
 

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Calo said:
how the fuck can u decide for someone else what is fun or not....

Umm he was just saying that you don't HAVE to stand at towers and keeps all day if you don't enjoy that. Sure roaming takes a little more patience now, but there is still plenty of fun to be had doing it. Pretty obvious really, but then again some are slower on the uptake than others...
 

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Bracken said:
Umm he was just saying that you don't HAVE to stand at towers and keeps all day if you don't enjoy that. Sure roaming takes a little more patience now, but there is still plenty of fun to be had doing it. Pretty obvious really, but then again some are slower on the uptake than others...

Or just some dont like NF and stop playing. But u seem to be unable to understand that point of view on this game. Oh well, this can go on and on and on and on ...
 

Wildpt

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Im having tons of fun playing armsman in NF's and cant remember the last time i had this much fun and i play this since close beta.

Love ip & purge with 15m timer, no more endurance problems with tireless & second wind, xbow with some use with snapshot and better range, more useful role in rvr with sieges (and not bashing doors for 30min) not to mention more rps, 3 big maps to have rvr fun and not the 3 years old emain, and much more that NF's brought.

I understand thou there is a major problem cos tanks population are still decreasing and mythic should do something.

What kind of a game is Dark Age of Camelot if there arent any tanks left in the future? this game is about medieval wars at least id like to think so. ;)
 

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Javlar said:
Well i guess you could say that the tanks (not including lighttanks) role has shifted even more from being damagedealers to being support with high offensive capabilities.

I <3 having a good hero (Hestethun /huggles) in my group, either perma bg'ing and guarding me or shifting around the group.

But seriously the heros/armsmans/warriors job has always been to bg/guard for support, only now its excelled even more towards that end. So thinking OoOo lets go whack shit in the assisttrain doesnt really work any more.

Maybe hero's and warriors have that def bg/guard job but pallys are the alb land 1. Armsmen make coffee and build rams / trebs for a living ;>!
 

Jpeg[LOD]

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Calo said:
how the fuck can u decide for someone else what is fun or not....
Roam? well I'm not in for getting a fg fight every 10/15 mins were u have 80% chance that u will get adds from one of the sides.

Look some ppl really only like fg or solo or duo rvr, some like the big siege fights. But try to respect that?
So far i didn't have much fun in NF, keeptakes are really so boring for me. and roaming with fg is not always that fun anymore :) (oh and don't come with those bs story's bout no relics etc..)

Translated.... Hi i got no relics. so i am QQ more.... i dont like keep fights. i dont like FG rvr . so im just gonna QQ and hope for some sympathy from somebody and then i can feel better.


but sriously if u cant take a different perspective about it from sum1 else.. and you whine here.. and obviously u aint happy ingame. join the bandwagon and /QUIT the game...

go out . get laid. breath some REAL fresh air instead of consuming yourself with virtual oxygen. then maybe u wont get so hotheaded and frustrated when u die :)

if all that fails... go play diablo2 of CS :)
 

Javlar

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Vindicator said:
Maybe hero's and warriors have that def bg/guard job but pallys are the alb land 1. Armsmen make coffee and build rams / trebs for a living ;>!

Aye that's correct i guess.

Too bad really. Armsmen r teh <3
 

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Jpeg[LOD] said:
Translated.... Hi i got no relics. so i am QQ more.... i dont like keep fights. i dont like FG rvr . so im just gonna QQ and hope for some sympathy from somebody and then i can feel better.


but sriously if u cant take a different perspective about it from sum1 else.. and you whine here.. and obviously u aint happy ingame. join the bandwagon and /QUIT the game...

go out . get laid. breath some REAL fresh air instead of consuming yourself with virtual oxygen. then maybe u wont get so hotheaded and frustrated when u die :)

if all that fails... go play diablo2 of CS :)

oke , read again and try to understand
i don't whine cause i don't care and yes i stopped playing (except i roleplay sometimes)
This reply just shows more bout u then me don't ya think

oh and thx, my rl is fine! funny u try to make it look bad. Quite amusing, keep it going :D
 

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Calo said:
oke , read again and try to understand
i don't whine cause i don't care and yes i stopped playing (except i roleplay sometimes)
This reply just shows more bout u then me don't ya think

oh and thx, my rl is fine! funny u try to make it look bad. Quite amusing, keep it going :D

If you don't like NF, don't play anymore (except roleplaying) why do you continously come to the rvr discussion and post whines?

Not a go at you personally just bewilders me why you waste your time here.
 

Jika

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well as far as I know .. groove did pretty well with tank grp and same did that .. umm Tedious Ten (sorry if spelled wrong) Draxa and co =)
So tanks are not THAT bad and we killed pretty much with mixed (mage/tank) grp on mid and on hib
 

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