New PC: Jonty please advise :D

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nath

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Intel Pentium 4 'Northwood' 2.8CGHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - Retail (CP-026-IN)
£190.90 £190.90
Abit IC7-G Max-2 Advance "Canterwood" (Socket 478) Motherboard (MB-032-AB)
£124.90 £124.90
Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB TV-Out/DVI - Retail (GX-017-SP)
£244.95 £244.95
Western Digital Caviar 120GB Special Edition 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-001-WD)
£75.50 £75.50
Enermax EG365AX-VE(G)(FMA) 350W ATX Power Supply (CA-003-EN)
£39.95 £39.95
Rounded Ultra ATA133/100/66 IDE Cable (0.45m) - Green (CB-033-GE)
£3.95 £3.95
Rounded Ultra ATA133/100/66 IDE Cable (0.45m) - Blue (CB-041-GE)
£3.95 £3.95
Logitech MX-700 Cordless Optical Mouse (KB-004-LG)
£42.65 £42.65
Corsair 512MB DDR XMS3200 TwinX (2x256MB) Platinum CAS2 (MY-017-CS)
£124.90 £124.90

Subtotal £851.65
VAT £149.04
Total £1,000.69


That gud then? (Pricewise/equipment wise, I know that the 2.8 and 9800pro's gunna rock, but are sapphire good?)

Oh, and onboard sound on the mobo, good?
 
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-Ultimate

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Sapphire are a very well known brand of ATI card, you have no worries at all on that score.
 
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Panda On Smack

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where you getting all these bits from nath?
 
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nath

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Overclockers. I had a quick look about, nowhere else seems to be much cheaper to warrant paying lots of different delivery charges.
 
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nath

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Oh well, it's all ordered. If it turns out I've made a huge mistake, feel free not to tell me.
 
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Jonty

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Hi nath

Just a quickie, since you've already ordered :D To be honest, that system looks great and, as -Ultimate highlighted, Sapphire are a very well respected brand of ATi cards. I can't vouch for those prices, but Overclockers UK, give or take a bit, tend to be amongst the cheapest.

Good luck!
 
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CptDoom

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Nath,

I got the ecct same chip as you so if u are after a good board i settled with the MSI Neo 2 PE Springdale board for £120 or so, has too many superflous leds but its really nice

Oh u already paid, advice (if u didnt already know) i spent 1 whole day battling with my 'non working new p4 2.8c' till i realised that pentiums 4 chips (maybe all, im unsure) use the littlke 4 hole plug that comes from the psu aswell as the big socket thing
 
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Memphis2K

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Originally posted by CptDoom
advice (if u didnt already know) i spent 1 whole day battling with my 'non working new p4 2.8c' till i realised that pentiums 4 chips (maybe all, im unsure) use the littlke 4 hole plug that comes from the psu aswell as the big socket thing
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that could have been solved within 30secs if you'd read the Manual or even the Quick Install guide ;) :p
 
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CptDoom

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The lot cost me £430 and the board has a led diagnostic thingy on it which tells you whats wrong with the mobo

So when i turned it on, all red lights came on which meant either the cpu is fucked or not mounted properly my heart sank and tried reinstalling the chip several times. I panicked and cant read when like that :)

Its always a small thing anyway that stops pc's from working after putting it together. I just never even bothered to look at the psu instructions as this was the last problem on my mind.

And anyway, i worked it out and its pretty damn quick :p
 
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nath

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big smelly arse burgers. It doesn't look like it's been dispatched today. Guess I'll get it wednesday then.

nghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
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CptDoom

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Amtrak? If yes, they doint show anything on the site for 24 hrs, if you ordered from ocuk before 12 its next day even tho the amtrak site says nothing
 
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nath

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Nah, I got the order in around 1:15. Plus I've had no e-mail from them saying its been dispatched..
 
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lovedaddy

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Im sooooooo tempted to get a similar setup....

2 things bother me - prescott due out soon, and ati9900 is a nice card. Also I HATE soundblasters these days, and I dont want to use the onboard sound due to CPU overhead
 
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(Shovel)

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I was under the imrpession that Prescott was still going to be branded Pentium 4?

Prescott will be a better bet than Athlon64 - probably - since 64-bit Windows* wont come until early next year.

*There is a 64-bit version already for the Intel IA-64 Arch. processor Intel Itanium, however, AMDs Athlong 64 is not the same at all, so requires a different comilation of Windows to take advantage of it.
 
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nath

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It's been shipped, should be with me tomorrow. :D :D :D

*does a little dance*
 
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lovedaddy

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Originally posted by (Shovel)
I was under the imrpession that Prescott was still going to be branded Pentium 4?

Prescott will be a better bet than Athlon64 - probably - since 64-bit Windows* wont come until early next year.

*There is a 64-bit version already for the Intel IA-64 Arch. processor Intel Itanium, however, AMDs Athlong 64 is not the same at all, so requires a different comilation of Windows to take advantage of it.
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I'd heard it was different enough to warrent a name change. Either way, its a big update (they are talking upto 5gig), and IMHO worth forcing yourself to wait for (painful as it might be).

The AMD64s are backwards compatible with 32bit code, (unlike the I64), so even if you are running a 32bit compiled winxp, your going to see quality performance. Combined with the nForce3 MB thats already waiting, should be a tasty system.
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by lovedaddy
Im sooooooo tempted to get a similar setup....

2 things bother me - prescott due out soon, and ati9900 is a nice card. Also I HATE soundblasters these days, and I dont want to use the onboard sound due to CPU overhead
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CPU overhead isn't that much with recent onboard sound chips.

Prescott is likely to be limited supply and rather expensive when it first arrives on the scene.

I reckon the NF3 sounds fairly good but I would personally look towards the next version as I expect a number of bugs will crop up with many of the first release chipsets for the Athlon 64.
 
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lovedaddy

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Yep, but the big price cuts that will undoubtly happen around this time is worth waiting for (IMHO).

P4s with onboard sound have quite a large overhead when playing over 16 3d voices.

http://www.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html

There are other benchmarks about that show that onboard solutions (bar the nForce) go skyhigh over 32 voices.
 
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Embattle

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There will not be massive prices cuts, they will decrease when the Prescott arrives, which only gets launched in Q4 this year, as I've stated before but I doubt they can go a great deal lower than current prices...model dependent.

The NF2 which is still an onboard solution and one of the most recent still did best and I've used a few of the others but never really noticed any real world performance problems, although again this depends on you processer power as the slower it is the bigger the hit.
 
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Embattle

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As for a new name, such as P5, only time will tell since they've changed name before for less changes ;)
 
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lovedaddy

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/31048.html

34% planned on the top end processor from Intel. That sounds like a worthwhile wait to me. With the 9900 forcing the 9800 down in price, all adds up. Especially when the game that I bet 90% of us to upgrade for aint even out yet.

Quote from Toms:
"The Realtek and C-MEDIA chips have an overall performance drop of 13% to 15%"

Thats a huge performance decrease, especially considering the onboards (by onboards im talking the likes that come with the P4 boards, not the nForce) scale alot worse next to the Audigy/nForce2 with higher number of 3d voices (which I'm sure most HL2 games will want).
 
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Embattle

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I never said it wasn't worth waiting for, in fact I've said many times over many threads it is but never expect massive price cuts...plus the linked article is not based on fact, it is an article posted from information from Xbit, nor does it relate to the UK market directly...we often don't quite get the same sort drop as the yanks.

I said I've used them in games and I didn't notice much diff and thats with games like BF1942, although as said this is processor dependent and if you notice that they only used a XP 2100+ in Tom's test. Also if you look at the real drop in terms of frame rates and not just % you'll notice a fair drop but nothing worth worrying about on any game of importance, for example the difference between 175fps and 200fps is nothing in real terms.

The NF2 MCP-T is the most popular onboard sound chip actually used and if you have anything else you tend to buy a drop in card to get more features.
 
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Embattle

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PS I find that the best way to look at facts in the Technology market is when it actually happens....its fact ;)
 
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lovedaddy

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And they are only using Quake3, something that doesn't push alot of 3d voices. The 15% drop is probably (alot) more with games today like UT2k3 with all its DD5.1 goodness.

The figures were used to highlight how big an impact a poor onboard solution will cost you in frame rate. Double the cost of a replacement card.
 
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Embattle

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Now you are talking about hypothetical facts, since not one of these games (UT2k3, HL2, Doom3) was tested in the Toms article which you linked, in fact nor was it a test with a P4...although no doubt the results would be similar and the games would be more of a challenge.

As for DD5.1 goodness it is overrated and still better to use headphones IMO.

Double the cost of a replacement card, in the old days yes but current mobos hardly charge any extra for onboard sound solutions.
 
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Embattle

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Again if you can afford a drop in card, such as an Audigy 2 then you should get it but the onboard sound isn't going to cause massive problems unless you have a really shit PC in other areas.
 
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