New guy here and bonedancer help needed

[Irakaz]

Hello everyone! I played Daoc on the US servers but like an idiot i got the eouropean-only expansion disks So now im stuck over here. Btw my first experience of the European servers was a message on wednesday saying i couldnt register, then having it not work even when friday news said it was ok. Not a great start!

Ok first question for u pros out there, I'm a student so i play at weird hours. I wanted a good soloer and since i now have Si and Toa i wanted a valkn bd, is this a good choice? will i get a grp ever, except people who want me to pl them? and how do all u bd's spec, ive read various accounts and i like the sound of bone army with some spec in suppression for the healers.

Any info much appreciated btw since i want to be a bd which server has lowest (or most incompetent) Mids. Where i come from Mids kick ass but Albs win with numbers.

 

[bult]

id say atleast 47 supp for the last insta lifetap and darkness as secondary specc for better baseline DDs. Also imo kobold and troll are better then valkyn. Anyway dont roll BD unless you want to play a really simple class that can beat most opponents by just spamming a single button ;p

 

[emma]

Hello everyone! I played Daoc on the US servers but like an idiot i got the eouropean-only expansion disks So now im stuck over here. Btw my first experience of the European servers was a message on wednesday saying i couldnt register, then having it not work even when friday news said it was ok. Not a great start!

Ok first question for u pros out there, I'm a student so i play at weird hours. I wanted a good soloer and since i now have Si and Toa i wanted a valkn bd, is this a good choice? will i get a grp ever, except people who want me to pl them? and how do all u bd's spec, ive read various accounts and i like the sound of bone army with some spec in suppression for the healers.

Any info much appreciated btw since i want to be a bd which server has lowest (or most incompetent) Mids. Where i come from Mids kick ass but Albs win with numbers.

To be honest and fair mate. Take the disc`s back and get the US version. You thank me after because no one should have to suffer the wrath of GoA no matter who they are ;p

 

[Balbor]

if you play weird hours you should role a Necro as your first character, you won't have to worry about getting groups, you'll get to 50 fast and be able to get free level 20s faster

 

[Urme the Legend]

if you play weird hours you should role a Necro as your first character, you won't have to worry about getting groups, you'll get to 50 fast and be able to get free level 20s faster

And since when did midgard get Necros? :kissit:

 

[Oro]

And since when did midgard get Necros? :kissit:

Camlann, you know, the supposed 3rd English server


47 Sup, rest Darkness for BD and you have nice bonedancer. No point in 48 for last heal pet as you won't get full use of it.

Any spare points left over into bone army for a few minor pet buffs don't hurt.

Expect to spend a lot of money repairing armour. BD first caster class I've ever played that needed to repair a lot. And don't let anyone tell you different, bonedancer is a fun class to play just people that face them like to complain about them a lot as they are hard to kill 1v1.

EDIT: My preference was for kobby BD. Trolls get spotted first in RvR and destroyed, Valkyns have low hitpoints. There are pros and cons of all so just pick the one you fancy and go for it.

 

[Balbor]

Camlann, you know, the supposed 3rd English server


47 Sup, rest Darkness for BD and you have nice bonedancer. No point in 48 for last heal pet as you won't get full use of it.

Any spare points left over into bone army for a few minor pet buffs don't hurt.

Expect to spend a lot of money repairing armour. BD first caster class I've ever played that needed to repair a lot. And don't let anyone tell you different, bonedancer is a fun class to play just people that face them like to complain about them a lot as they are hard to kill 1v1.

EDIT: My preference was for kobby BD. Trolls get spotted first in RvR and destroyed, Valkyns have low hitpoints. There are pros and cons of all so just pick the one you fancy and go for it.

i bet Necros have to repair a lot more than BDers

 

[Leleith]

Imo, bonedancers arent all what they are cracked up to be. Though, some people like them, i have to say they are quite boring to play. The best spec when lvling is probably bone army, with its dots and petbuffs. In RvR though, you will want supp. I went 47 supp, 22 dark and 14 bone army. I also went kobold, but i would suggest you to go troll for that extra con. Dont go valkyn (unless you are much into mokeys and ugleh stuff like that), since they got crappy con. Think only elves and luris have lower? troll and 10 in con, dex and pie should pwn i think. When playing BD, you shouldnt count on getting grps. As for lowbies asking for pl: Show them the middle finger ofc (give them the "just one lvl he needs for a spell or style" and he will stay for 5 and whine and cry "plz just one more im good in grp!" been there, done that) If its people you know, its ok. But if its just some /level- char, you can be very sure he would never let you into his grp to pl you. Thats how it is, and how it has been for very long now. people just arent nice anymore

gl out there!

 

[Irakaz]

I feel that there are not many of u out there that like these servers. Well I have played on the US ones and yeak they have the better patches, it may not crash as much, but hell at least in these servers u dont have to play with Americans!!!! . Im comin online some time next week so if you see someone with Greyhame in their surname then its me.

I appreciate all the help with the BD. I suppose I'll just have to stop bein an idiot and play the damn class, how else did other people learn.

btw if u want to know there r loads of problems on the US severs at the moment with the new patches. Mythic seem to have gone out there way to annoy the grps that had the most problems to start with

I don't care anyway I just want to have fun here and I already paid for the games so Im here to stay. Hmm I better get my name on the appeal list now, I'm sure its quite long . . . .

 

[Brunore]

Why not just let the guy play what he wants?

Supp spec is good for a BD, you will level very well solo and are pretty good in groups as well as you deal a lot of dmg and have "personal" healer.

Bone army is supposed to be a little bugged from what I have been told.

Stick with Supp, level pretty fast and pretty good in rvr as well.

 

[Leleith]

Why not just let the guy play what he wants?

Sure

Stick with Supp, level pretty fast and pretty good in rvr as well.

^^

 

[Brunore]

Touche

 

[Irakaz]

Well I finally managed to subscribe yesterday! I have my first BD on Mid/Pdywen only got to level 6 yesterday but did some explorin in Midguard then ran back to aegirs cos i got a little lost . Anyway my name is Mandarr so if u c me around give me a wave, if I don't wave its cos im stilll working on that new interface that i cant seem to work as well.

Btw I took in all your advice and went against most people cos im a troll, goin BA half Supp and I think 7 spec in darkness so that 48/24/7 in the end. May go a little more supp less BA i.e second strongest soldier pet. We'll see how i play. May start tailorin as well later on when i got some cash behind me, then hopefully someone can spellcraft my stuff for power boosts

Thnx to all

 

[Eroa]

I feel that there are not many of u out there that like these servers. Well I have played on the US ones and yeak they have the better patches, it may not crash as much, but hell at least in these servers u dont have to play with Americans!!!! . Im comin online some time next week so if you see someone with Greyhame in their surname then its me.

Thing is.. the people that dont like GOA post and say so. The ones that have no problem with them dont post and say so.


And have to agree with you on the american part. Having GOA handel the servers>Playing with americans.

Ofc there are nice americans aswell.. but larger part of them aint (just from my personal experiance)

 

[Glacier]

i bet Necros have to repair a lot more than BDers

BD's get hit more than necroes, bd's get hit more, cause they kill the enemy slower, and cant just spam loose on the LD, in pve that is, buffed necros can drop reds before they get to them, something that dont damage much more than their staff

 

[Amuse]

BD's get hit more than necroes, bd's get hit more, cause they kill the enemy slower, and cant just spam loose on the LD, in pve that is, buffed necros can drop reds before they get to them, something that dont damage much more than their staff

m8, if the necro got hit 10 times less than the BD, the necros stuff would stil degrade 2 times faster than the BDs.. and the staff degrade is crazy now.. i tryed my necro on camlan again after the patch, and after 5 houers of playing, my greencon staff had lost 20% cond. 94 qual staff..

 

[Ickleevul]

Dunno if any advice is too late.
If you go full supp spec, you can chain yellow's/low oj's unbuffed without stopping for hours (with mcl1). Your armour/equipment will degrade fast, expect to get a new set every 3-5 lvls. DF gear is good enough, but get stuff with melee resists if you can. Secondary spec dark for 15% body debuff

BA BD's apparently are PvE monsters. Tank pets+ good dmg add buff (same as rm's, 1 level more to get it)+ dots, you'll chainsaw through mobs. Secondary spec supp for lvl18 healers at some stage

Dark Spec, dont bother.

For endgame RvR, tbh supp spec is probably the most succesful.
BA dots arent going to kill much, especially with heal wards etc, and the pets just get CC'd.
Power usuage will be a main concern. Take's literally a whole bar to kill 1 tank with IP.
Most common spec is 47-48supp/22-24dark/rest ba.

 

[Irakaz]

Advise is never too late when it comes to this game with respeccing. Most of what u said in in consensus with everyone esle i've talked to but i was just wonderin how BD's do at Toa. I havent got that far yet but i want the BD to be my first UK 50 (and so i can /level to a least get back some of the chars i played in US - whack whack whack says the friar, die die die says the pally . . . . wtf says the scout).

Ok were was I . . . oh yes . . . can u get grps at higher levels with a BD? If you need grps for these things then will my BA BD get any love from other players, since i'll need their help. I've looked around but cant seem to find threads that give detailed accounts of what u actually do for the ML raids or watever . Only thing ive ever seen is a dragon raid guidline.

If there are none i will try the BA endgame spec 48 BA 24 supp 7 dark. After being reaped for rp's i may cry but hell i'll have fun. Maybe i just wont go to emain, says the former alb . . .

 

[Balbor]

does anyone know why necros stuff degrades faster than anyone else, only theory i have is that when your pet gets get the armour/items degrade as if a L44 was using L50 items?

 

[Knoll]

id say atleast 47 supp for the last insta lifetap and darkness as secondary specc for better baseline DDs. Also imo kobold and troll are better then valkyn. Anyway dont roll BD unless you want to play a really simple class that can beat most opponents by just spamming a single button ;p

or u like to think that and end up playing like that and get farmed constantly over and over again be my guest....


there is more then 1 button to playing a BD effective think of LT as a interupt spell nothing else cause it alone, will not keep u alive against the massive zerg <albs/hibs> that loves to gank a BD thinking they rock and BD is so overpowered.....

i mean u cant blame the BD for the idiot that tries to run away from 1 and ends up being LT to death its so easy to kill a BD unfortunate ppl end up short and act like Forrest Gump all the time and then blame the class when they play idiotic....

 

[Knoll]

Sorc>>>>Bd's any day of the week.........


Cabalist>>>Bd's any day of the week as well if they are not to busy to whine.

 

[Lejemorder]

Sorc>>>>Bd's any day of the week.........


Cabalist>>>Bd's any day of the week as well if they are not to busy to whine.

how will a sorc be able to kill a bd w/o moc?

 

[Flimgoblin]

does anyone know why necros stuff degrades faster than anyone else, only theory i have is that when your pet gets get the armour/items degrade as if a L44 was using L50 items?

it's because you're getting hit lots and healing it, rather than a tank that tends to block more and not get hit as much.

On the whole GOA thing...

Advantages of playing here:

Raids etc. in european timezones (might not be good for you if you play weird hours mind)
We get the working version of patches mostly (ToA launched here with 1.67 - do you remember patch 1.66zc over in the US? )
Compare the amount of GOA whines to the Mythic whines on VN - similar
Hurling! we get to bash pigs with sticks.
If you don't like having to work things out then there's no waiting as the walkthroughs are posted the moment we get it.

Disadvantages:
don't get the new stuff as fast
can't go to pendragon and try out specs till you go blind
don't get to explore as much as all the walkthroughs are posted by the time we get it.

 

[Spathi]

for a solo BD i recommend 47 in supp but if you are gonna be an RvR group BD then more darkness is advised for the extremely powerful debuff nukage - bone army is shite.

i have a 50 bd on camlann and the novelty does wear off pretty quick. easy class to level tho with plenty of 40+ quests from classic SI and ToA

 

[Thegreatest]

how will a sorc be able to kill a bd w/o moc?

Won't be possible cause sorc nukes are 1500 range and bd can insta interrupt you after sorc gets the first nuke in...Or you should have a really strong buffed pet (or a pet that stuns) that can handle the job alone.

 

[Lejemorder]

Won't be possible cause sorc nukes are 1500 range and bd can insta interrupt you after sorc gets the first nuke in...Or you should have a really strong buffed pet (or a pet that stuns) that can handle the job alone.

also my thought dunno how knoll can say that a sorc>bd any day, either the bd sux max (have can u sux when u only need to press 1 buttom) or as u say the sorc got an uber pet.

 

[NeonBlue]

a good sorc will beat a BD pretty easy...its only the good BDs like Banana and Ilskan that u will need moc to beat em....any other BD i came across i could beat without using moc

 

[Brite]

Sorc cant beat me with moc anymore just run over to them and unmana 4tehwin !

Anyway for spec if recommend going full supp all the way to 47 then putting all your spare points into darkness for 26 darkness, dont put any other points anywhere else but in supp until your after 40

going 48 supp is a waste of points as the 48 healer heals for no more than the lvl 42 healer and this has been tested, If your kinda messed up your spec you can always respec or remake give brite a message ingame if you need any help

and as for race, dont listen to them

Trolls are the worst possible race for BD, its like a big neon sign saying kill me im a shaman / BD So what they have 70 con ? end game (level 50) thats about 44 hp more... thats nothing and 30 dex, gimp cast speed and you will hit less with your staff when leveling

Kobold are good for stats 50 con 70 dex 60 pie but there resists arnt good 5% crush and 5% energy

Valkyn have average stats 45 con 65 dex 60 pie, only 5 less con dex than kobold but you get much better resists 3% slash 2% thrust %5 body 5% cold the best resists of any class

 

[NeonBlue]

Sorc cant beat me with moc anymore just run over to them and unmana 4tehwin !

a good sorc wont let u get near for u to unmana em

 

[Brite]

a good sorc wont let u get near for u to unmana em

pfttt its like 1000 range pbaoe anyway so not far to run and they will still cast faster than 4 seconds and for more damage than my lifetap so im gonna have to use that lame run through trick to get some target not in sight stuff

oh and with tapping it takes them a while to kill me anyway even if i dont unmana... mom3, wp3, 9% extra damage and cloudsong is some nice tap damage