Nerf the PBAOE!

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Brannor McThife

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Originally posted by old.Bubble
Mana chanter away from Keep = RP cow :)

Not always. If he sees you first, and gets his stun in and you don't have purge... bye bye... Happened to my warrior. 4x450 nukes... And they have speed... They can nuke faster than tanks can swing...

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old.Bubble

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don't worry that will change next patch
resists go up etc

1.51 enchanters were really badass
insta heat debuff followd by 2 sec nukes that are harder than a light spec chanter nukes(spec 48 mana 25 light hits extreamly hard with baselin spells)
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by andrilyn
It might have been a long time since I played this game but aint it possible to AoE the relic keep doors ?!
Not so hard to stop PBAoE if you keep spamming the relic keep doors with AoE spells (dont forget to turn /effects self :D).

thats true
but there's no doors to ae up at the lords
 
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andrilyn

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Originally posted by old.Atrox


thats true
but there's no doors to ae up at the lords

I thought this was about a relic raid ? did they put lords at a relic keep now ?
And btw if you get through the 3rd door in a relic raid you can never be stopped, might take down like 20 people with PBAoE but the zerg would kill everyone in the relic room, since I do beleave this relic raid was organised with like 100+ people atleast, cant stop a zerg that big no way...
 
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old.Atrox

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I stand corrected, but there is no door to ae up at the relic.
and 5 - 6 pbaoe'rs can stop a 100man army.
Group Purge, single purge, heals, MoC
the insane gfx lag caused by the 100 albs combined with 6*400+ dmg every 1.5sec = pwn /release
thou you can use tactics to beat them, but try to get a 100 man zerg not to rush the relic room, and start listening to tactics..
 
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- Pathfinder -

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Few Albs even made it to the top level. I fell through the stairs two times. THose who did were nuked by the 10 or so yellow con pbaers there; no chance in hell to survive :p
 
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andrilyn

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Then they need to invent something like a handgrenade... oops wrong game :D
 
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Ottar

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> Then they need to invent something like a handgrenade...

Aye. Brother Maynard! Bring forth the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch! And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals..

;)

Ottar
 
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j000 d000d

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Actually mids are already atm the overpowered bastards.... insta-AE, AE stun, AE nuke -> /release

But that gets a bit changed next patch with Hibs getting insta-mezz too, I'm quite glad it happens, because basically a bard has no chance against healer when it comes to who gets the first mezz off. And bard is a pure CC class so should be able to at least stand a chance. And now mids get PBAE and GTAoE too, so they're EVEN MORE stronger.

And Albs did quite good, you wiped a force of 40+ hibs twice, was very sad to see the deathmessages spam so fast and so many. But was a fun day overall, including me and Zellrond wiping the floor with about 10 infils ;)

But next patch my stun will always be ready for the first Spiritmaster i see. :p

And btw, if any SM is gonna spec 49 Supp, you're quite gimped, except that you have a good PBAE. You're basically a manachanter without speed, debuff, and casting pet. :rolleyes:
 
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- Pathfinder -

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Ye, we did wipe those Hibs, but largely due to us running up to them when they were assaulting a keep and having every bleeding AE class nuke :p All your CC and stuns won't do much good when 15 albs are nuking :)

As for the SM gimpness, hell, that's just like ice wizzies. Still people like Usp pretends we have a class like enchanter :m00:
 
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j000 d000d

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And btw, nice "spur-of-the-moment" raid, you should've stayed home and defend your relic :m00:
 
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Jonaldo

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Originally posted by The Real Redi

The more you do something, the more second nature it becomes; <snip>

It should stand the same with spells, ive been lightning bolted 300 times, its going to take more of a jolt to shake me as, hell, im used to those standard shocks that take out someone whos never been zapped...

But then take into consideration that you also die... so in effects you're bein reborn into a body who has never been lightning zapped before :p

touché
 
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old.Bubble

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most SM's i know speced darkness the ones who went to 49 in Suppression loved the PBAOE(did more damage than a mana chanters) but couldn't do much more

Darkness gets - 500 damage 90% life drain (IE GODMODE :) )
30sec aoe mez
30 sec pbaoe mez

than SM's are a nasty class :p
 
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j000 d000d

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Originally posted by old.Bubble
most SM's i know speced darkness the ones who went to 49 in Suppression loved the PBAOE(did more damage than a mana chanters) but couldn't do much more

Darkness gets - 500 damage 90% life drain (IE GODMODE :) )
30sec aoe mez
30 sec pbaoe mez

than SM's are a nasty class :p

Seems a much more viable spec than 49 Supp :)
 
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old.Chavez

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And bard is a pure CC class so should be able to at least stand a chance. And now mids get PBAE and GTAoE too, so they're EVEN MORE stronger.

Bard is NOT a pure cc class he's support. He has limited heals and other useful tools (endurence regen/mach5) but never was he intended to be pure CC. That's why it's odd they have been given instant CC. Wheres albions ?
 
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j000 d000d

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Originally posted by old.Chavez


Bard is NOT a pure cc class he's support. He has limited heals and other useful tools (endurence regen/mach5) but never was he intended to be pure CC. That's why it's odd they have been given instant CC. Wheres albions ?

Albs don't need CC, they just zerg all like we saw yesterday :p
 
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maxgirth

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Originally posted by old.Teador
And btw, nice "spur-of-the-moment" raid, you should've stayed home and defend your relic :m00:

We did, it`s still ours,mids just popped in to pick theirs up,as it has been repaired now for mts,dont you break it again you naughty trolls :).
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by old.Teador


Albs don't need CC, they just zerg all like we saw yesterday :p

tbh most albs dont know how to handle CC
classic example, I get a perfect mezz in, 15 out of 16 mezzed, next second I see all of them getting coverd in bloody ice.

if it aint aeroot theres always a triggerhappy aenuker around to make my day.
 
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Power of Light

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"the insane gfx lag caused by the 100 albs combined with 6*400+ dmg every 1.5sec = pwn /release"

Cant cast every 1,5 sec because the cap on spell casting is 2 sec :D
 
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old.Atrox

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dont trust everything mythic says, they only write the game, no time to play it.....

I think the so called "hard cap" are without cast speed stats.
( MotA wont lower the spell base cast speed below 2sec )


[22:56:02] You begin casting a Mind Shriek spell!
[22:56:03] You cast a Mind Shriek Spell!
[22:56:03] You hit for 345 (-66) damage!
 
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VidX

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Originally posted by Power of Light
"the insane gfx lag caused by the 100 albs combined with 6*400+ dmg every 1.5sec = pwn /release"

Cant cast every 1,5 sec because the cap on spell casting is 2 sec :D

LOL

This argument again?

Trust me, you can cast faster than 2 seconds :)

Currently, my DD casts in 1.4 seconds, calculated with 13 casts in 18 seconds.
 
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VidX

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Only have it that high because my Dex is capped with items, Dex buff from a lvl 50 Bard, and a nice Dex/Qui buff from Ilcanter.

Just wait til Ilcy get up a few more levels, see if I can get casting speed to 1.3 :)

Runies can maybe get their casting speed for a base cast of 2 seconds spell. Just work on your Dex items and RA's.

Granted, I have no Dex RA's yet...

RIGHT, seriously, have to go get Purge tonight, nearly have 11 RSP's, still haven't bothered seeing my trainer as I'm never near any of them...
 
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old.Atrox

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No vidx dont get purge, truely suck..
it's bad for you, it will ruin your RvR life, you will find the game extremly time consuming, since you wont have any mezz downtimes where you can go watch TV or go to the loo etc...

Get lifter instead, and always carry a catapult with you, that way when ever u get oop you can still do sweet dmg... just a tip from a fellow caster.
 
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VidX

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Was actually thinking of buying Aug Con 3, Toughness 2 and Regen 1 :)
 
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old.Bubble

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with fleura buffs
my Lifetap is cast faster normaly than with quickcast :)
 
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Power of Light

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I got it from the ra site on the herald ;)

Mastery of the Art Passive N/A 1 3 6 10 14 Augmented Acuity 3 Additional 3% per level casting speed when casting spells. Please note that the minimum allowed spell casting timer is 2 seconds – this ability will not allow you to go below this hard cap.

Maybe mythic cant count :)
 
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- Pathfinder -

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Noone but naive newbies believe anything Mythic says - I've been nuked by a single chanter five times during one friggin stun.
 

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