Need help with cleric spec.

[smokee_hb]

On the 28th I'm returning to the fine realm of albion.
I've talked with my old guild mates at HB, and decided to dump my wizzy, and make a cleric instead.
Now I'm in need of your help. Beeing away from DAoC for 6 months I have no idea what spec to take. So I ask you here, what are your thoughts and ideas on cleric specs ?
Any thoughts and comments are welcome.
Thank you.

 

[Vegy]

40 Rejuv, 36 Enhance, 4 Smite
or
40 Enhance, 36 Rejuv, 4 Smite

 

[Eggy]

*39 rejuv minimum for decent spread heal, don't go lower than this

but

*40 rejuv minimum for 100% res (worth it). especially after you have MCL2 and Raging Power for battle resses

but

*41 rejuv for much better single heal, which I find incredibly useful, although some people prefer to spam spread it seems...

*35 enhance is needed for half decent spec buffs and resists. So many people have a buffbot these days, it's not worth taking it higher than this

41, 35, 3 fortehwin

I've tried them all, I like this the most.

 

[hotrat]

Yer 41 rej, 35 enh, 4 smite is the best general cleric spec.

Taking enhance to (37?) get the 16% energy resist buff could be worth it if you group with a cleric who only has 35 enh though, but you will lose the 100% rez.

 

[Ambulance]

As above 41r 35 e

With /assist being used so much now, that 41 heal really does help out alot.

Also,do a search on BW, as there is a 3-4 page thread somewhere with every cleric giving his/her best spec etc...but im too lazy to look

 

[Asha]

41r 35e 3s

I won't go below 41r personally.

it's not fun, but it's the most useful
smite is dead

 

[TaF]

Personally i am 40 rej/ 36 enh / 4 smite.

I find the spec very fun, i am useful to group and i like it
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Little thought.

I looked it up again, on herald :
41 Greater Refection 3.0s/ 549 h 109 power = ca 686 hp healed with no relics ? Heals target

While spread heal is :
39 Boon of the Host 3.5s/ 241 h 95 power = 602 hp cap on single target while multiple person hurt, goes up to 740-sh iirc while just 1 is hurt.
+ it ignores disease if Your target has it, normally i am not diseased so it heals for full . Heals grp.

I personally thought the 41 heal is a bit too power hungry to get and i don't even have the 32 one on main quickbar :|

What did i miss ?

 

[Flimgoblin]

43s 30e 12r

but then again I am clinically insane

 

[TaF]

Oh forgot

cast time fully buffed 283 dex no ra-s and + mota :

3.5 sec spell = 2.2 sec || mota 2 = 2.0sec
3.0= 1.9 sec || mota 2 = 1,78sec

argh school .. <runs>

 

[Fagane]

So many buffbots, no real need to get Enhance.

Revj 40
Smite 35
Enhance 9

insta pbaoe mezz when you need to run, if not resisted it slows even the highest determ tank for 2 sec.

And some more smite to have some solo fun, revj 40 for 100% res.

Fagane

 

[Jiggs]

well mine is slightly odd, but after trying most of the specs and talking/playing with piton alot i finally settled on the same spec as her:

i'm 41rej 26enh 23smite

i agree with asha about 41reju, once you get it you can't play without it..

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by Fagane
So many buffbots, no real need to get Enhance.

you need enh for baseline buffs unless you got 3 buffbots or something stupid...

with 26+16 my bases are fine

 

[Asha]

Originally posted by TaF
Oh forgot

cast time fully buffed 283 dex no ra-s and + mota :

3.5 sec spell = 2.2 sec || mota 2 = 2.0sec
3.0= 1.9 sec || mota 2 = 1,78sec

argh school .. <runs>

cast time on 41 spec heal is 2.95 s
cast time on spread is 3.5 s

*shrug* makes a difference to me
I can't afford moart for another lvl but taking just my dex into account, it's slightly faster for a start. Second, it's guarenteed to hit your target whereas a spread heal isn't - you hit 41 heal and you're going to know if your target is out of range is what I mean. With a spread heal you can cast it and if your sorc is running after being hit then maybe he isn't going to get healed. Third, it heals for more.


I never noticed spread heals hitting for more when it's only one target Hehe... learn something new everyday.


Fangane is making as much sense as usual. You need enhance for resists if nothing else.

 

[glorien_]

My spec is 40e 36r 4s atm - with this spec u get yellow dex, good resists and a good heal proc (useful in PvE - as cleric anyway) i have been this spec for quite awhile now and im thinking of going 41r 35e as full rez is heavily needed in rvr and my spread heals arent really cutting it.

 

[vuky]

Originally posted by Fagane
So many buffbots, no real need to get Enhance.

Revj 40
Smite 35
Enhance 9

insta pbaoe mezz when you need to run, if not resisted it slows even the highest determ tank for 2 sec.

And some more smite to have some solo fun, revj 40 for 100% res.

Fagane

And what about resists? if no enchancements, no energy resists ....

Phear enchanters then ^^

My cleric spec is 39 reju ( cool spreadheal ), 37enchance ( all 16% resists ), 4 smite ( pff, to usepoints imo, 9 secs pbaoe mezz 4teh win )

 

[Vorcyn]

50R, 20E, 4S + Wild Healing 3

But then again, i was bored one day, and decided to respec. Only bring the cleric out for sidi & dragon raids etc.

833 single target heal without crits is nice though if a bit power hungry

 

[old.shotgunstow]

If you want to be a complete rejuvinator do 46r/29e or whatever, 41/35 is quite good, although I quite like my spec, 41/30/18, giving you a long enough mez to get away if not resisted 50r is pointless and boring and means you're shite err, another good option is 40e/36r, if you group with 2 clerics in group, cos then u get decent enough healing and u get better buffs, if there is no buffbot servicing the group. Although if u got a buffbot yourself, 41r/35s might be fun

 

[TaF]

Originally posted by Asha
cast time on 41 spec heal is 2.95 s
cast time on spread is 3.5 s

*shrug* makes a difference to me
I can't afford moart for another lvl but taking just my dex into account, it's slightly faster for a start. Second, it's guarenteed to hit your target whereas a spread heal isn't - you hit 41 heal and you're going to know if your target is out of range is what I mean. With a spread heal you can cast it and if your sorc is running after being hit then maybe he isn't going to get healed. Third, it heals for more.

Good points, agreed on cast time it's a bit slow especially as i am usually not botted and 256 dex or so as Highlander :| .

The problem (at least for me) is your target vs mids is 90% times diseased which makes you move closer to cure the disease and then ur in range for spread, BUT i don't use spread on single targets, usually going with the 383 hp heal, will test the biggest one out and see how it goes.

ps. Same disease thing goes for hibs with mana elds <curses>

I never noticed spread heals hitting for more when it's only one target Hehe... learn something new everyday.

Guild cleric (Adrirali) pointed it out, i didn't believe, but i have seen it happen and it is logical, as it is spread heal and should focus more on ONE target then anyway.

 

[nalistah]

50 smite

 

[TaF]

Originally posted by nalistah
50 smite

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[Asha]

Originally posted by TaF
Good points, agreed on cast time it's a bit slow especially as i am usually not botted and 256 dex or so as Highlander :| .

The problem (at least for me) is your target vs mids is 90% times diseased which makes you move closer to cure the disease and then ur in range for spread, BUT i don't use spread on single targets, usually going with the 383 hp heal, will test the biggest one out and see how it goes.

ps. Same disease thing goes for hibs with mana elds <curses>



Guild cleric (Adrirali) pointed it out, i didn't believe, but i have seen it happen and it is logical, as it is spread heal and should focus more on ONE target then anyway.

Honestly haven't noticed it, but will try. I haven't noticed cause I use the 41 for single instances ...

As for disease... haven't noticed it much on casters as they tend to stay back and get assisting tanks on them. As for tanks w/disease, well it's viatal to cure the disease, maybe even more than to heal them.

Vs. hibs is't always spread heal Unless it's a tank group then it's just easy

 

[syri]

My final spec for Pirel is going to be 41rej, 35 enh, 3 smite. looks a nice spec to me

 

[_fanta_]

41 rej 35 enc 3 smite .

moreover u have 0points left so i think this is the perfect spec for a group cleric

 

[corel]

spec

my spec was:

43 Rejuv for the last major heal
31 enchance for the 2nd last acuity buff
10 smite for the ae dd (great for uncovering stealthers at milegates)

spec i find better :

39 rejuv for the 2nd spread heal
29 enhance
23 smite (pbaoe mez if you get a pet on you)

 

[kirennia]

aye, the 41 rej heal is more power hungry then the spread heal which imo needs to be seriously fixed cause it means spamming spread heal soon as just one person gets hit is MORE effective power wise then the single heal. I had always been a single healer myself until I found this out :/

Of course the main downpoint is aggro in PvE but that isn't really an issue for RvR

Seems 40rej, 35enh, rest smtie is better in that respect for additional help in interupting the enemy group

 

[Motowntheta]

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
43s 30e 12r

but then again I am clinically insane

You got documentary evidence ?

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Jiggs
i agree with asha about 41reju, once you get it you can't play without it..

Funny, my druid was 41 regrowth (exactly same as 41 rejuv) and respecced to 40 regrowth.

In my eyes the 41 regrowth specline heal is too powerhogging and is in terms of mana/heal very bad.

Only positive thing about it is the cast-time versus healvalue which is about it.

Manacosts? Too high
Fighting against Mids means you gotta cure disease first or you're healing for absolute shite.

Fighting Hibs often means PBAoE means more targets damaged ---> spreadheal for way best mana/heal and heal/time values.

There is however, one difference: When speccing 41 ---> 40 regrowth a druid actually does get something useful in another line. I dont think that's the case on clerics. Hence why they probably more often spec 41 rejuv. You aint forced to use the big-ass heal and it can be nice to have.

 

[old.Ramas]

45r 29e

But I'm in a minority on this.

The power efficient large heal at 43 is useful on pve raids.

The time efficient large heal at 41 has saved any number of lives both in pve and rvr - spread heal is too slow sometimes.

And 45 for the 100% group insta is nice because you don't get an inferiority complex when Paladins use faith heal.

 

[parlain]

For 90% of grouping purposes take either:

41r 36e 3s (Rejuv Cleric)

or

40e 35r 9s (Enhance Cleric to compliment Rejuv Cleric with 16% resist buffs)

However if you are going to play with the same cleric buddy and/or team all the time in RvR I'd favour this in a group:

40e 35r 9s for the Reisists and Bases
48r 24s 9e for the last spread heal and increased chance of mez sticking long enough (around 4 secs on det 5) for you to flee
2xBuffbots for specs and preferably a 3rd for Bases.

Unconventional

 

[Eggy]

Originally posted by parlain
For 90% of grouping purposes take either:

41r 36e 3s (Rejuv Cleric)

This spec is impossible.