NAT and wireless

[jaba]

This is gonna be embarassing so feel free to laugh!
I have finally got meself broadband at home and my computer is connected over a wireless network into a netgear adsl modem/wireless router/access point jobby...however it says running games over NAT doesnt often work, so I tried it and hopped on a Q3 server and got a decent ish ping but lots of packet loss and connection drops...so is this because of NAT...the wireless network or my ISP being crap? answers on a postcard to NOOB@barrysworl.com

oh and what games are good to play online right now?

Thanks for help guys

 

[TheJkWhoSaysNi]

I have a linksys wired router and have not had any problems playing online... Not that that helps you at all

 

[Chameleon]

Make a note of the ip address of one of these servers (without the : port) and from Start --> Run --> Command, try

tracert ipaddress

and

ping ipaddress

to get some info on your connection to that ip, e.g. response times to that ip and hops along the way, plus to pin-point potential causes of packet loss. Post some info here on it (although you might disguise your internal ip) and I'm sure people can help further.
Popular online games .... well, lots ..... Counterstrike still, q3, but moreso Battlefield 1942, Call of Duty, Enemy Territory, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor, Star Wars - lots of jedi type stuff .... plus rpg's like Dark Age of Camelot and Final Fantasy 11 (think its 11 anyway ). And loads more I will have forgotten that aren't war related fps's

 

[TheJkWhoSaysNi]

Game wise I've found Vietcong fun to play online.

I've also been playing BF1942, Jedi Academy and UT2003 The UT is still great fun.

 

[wyrd_fish]

i like the way you treat UT with the respect it deserves...

The UT

 

[jaba]

hehe, do these games have internal server browsers? or do I have to go through the scum that is gamespy?
which i have just noticed has appeared mysteriously on my pc!!


ok trc route data to random game server:

C:\Documents and Settings\Jaba>tracert 62.93.201.101

Tracing route to gs0095.clanserver4u.de [62.93.201.101]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms gadamer-dsl1.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.3]
2 19 ms 20 ms 18 ms erazmus-ve-192.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.193]
3 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms bolzano-ge-0-0-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.50]
4 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms deleuze-ve-52.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.54]
5 25 ms 26 ms 26 ms suarez-so-0-0-0.te.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.62]
6 26 ms 25 ms 24 ms ge3-0.pr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [195.66.224.76]
7 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms pos8-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net [208.184.231.73]
8 27 ms 25 ms 27 ms pos0-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [208.185.156.13]
9 26 ms 25 ms 27 ms so-4-1-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.184.231.174]

10 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms pos9-0.cr1.ams2.nl.above.net [64.125.31.154]
11 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms pos14-0.mpr1.ams1.nl.above.net [208.184.231.53]

12 38 ms 39 ms 40 ms so-1-3-0.cr2.fra1.de.above.net [64.125.30.149]
13 41 ms 40 ms 40 ms pos0-0.mpr1.fra2.de.above.net [216.200.115.246]

14 41 ms 42 ms 41 ms gs0095.clanserver4u.de [62.93.201.101]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Jaba>ping 62.93.201.101

Pinging 62.93.201.101 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 62.93.201.101: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=53
Reply from 62.93.201.101: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=53
Reply from 62.93.201.101: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=53
Reply from 62.93.201.101: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 62.93.201.101:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 38ms, Maximum = 39ms, Average = 38ms



the ping seems ok, but the traceroute seems like a lot of hops to me

 

[TheJkWhoSaysNi]

hehe, do these games have internal server browsers? or do I have to go through the scum that is gamespy?

Most of them do, but ASE is god.

 

[tainted]

yeah the All Seeing Eye is easily the best one available. it says theres a 21 day trial, but I've been using it since july with no 'registration required' problems

 

[evilmonkeh]

Originally posted by tainted
yeah the All Seeing Eye is easily the best one available. it says theres a 21 day trial, but I've been using it since july with no 'registration required' problems

register it
it doesnt cost much

 

[Chameleon]

Get ASE jaba
As for the ping and tracert - they seem fine, although that server seems either far away or it takes a damn funny route along the way! When you find you are getting problems with your connection, try ping and tracert again, several times to determine what might be up m8.

 

[jaba]

yeah it was just a server listed from the main q3 menu, so im sure there are better ones out there...well thanks for the help guys, i guess all seeing eye it is!! hehe