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Foadon

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OF wise you had to get useless buffs to be immune, like breathe, dmg shield, pox etc etc etc
another glorious ( :rolleyes: ) aspect of NF, is that you NEED breathe, else you'll just get pwned by swimspeed, this however brings with it my following problem:
im a warrior for those that still dont know :d and i dont get buffs to be immune, its even pointless to get immune, because you cant benefit from baod/bof/am/etc etc. however, with the buff limit, i cant even try not to be buffcapped or i have to drop 1 or mulitple useful buffs, lastnight and the night before i wasted 3 charges of af just to get the msg that i already have too much active effects. iv looked and its 26buffs that i can max get, + all my protecting abilities (guard, bg, intercept, etc) now, what is mythic planning on doing if ppl cant even get all buff effects ? pretty annoying that i have to go cancel multiple buffs just so i can benefit from RAs.
the list of buffs is : str, con, dex, af, str/con, dex/qui, haste, 3x healer resists = 10, 3x shaman resists, end, abs from bd, da from runie, bt, 3shape effects from DS (4 if i use som since 1 effect lasts longer with duration) = 20 or 21, mez block (thought this was supposed to be a negative effect so not under the influence of buffs, but it seems to be) speed, breathe, CS/zahur charge (cant cancel this as its an aura), af charge = 26, which seems to be the cap, now the problem is that i also have aura of kings that i use before af charge, and that someone also uses the arti staff charge with a 5% pierce buff not aura, i could cancel this no problem, the thing is that i cant, i already have my 20 effects on before its used so there is no possibility to cancel this unless waiting for the duration, which in that time i can die or have need of the charge that i wanted to have.

so my question is if mythic is changing or adjusting any code to make this problem stop, i dont exactly like the fact that just because someone cant code properly, that i have to drop buffs so i can benefit from an RA,
also i dont care being grappled, and i dont want to be immune, since i usually use grapple myself after getting rezzed or if its situational to my advantage
 

Foadon

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nah but seriously i hope they gonna fix this crap :d
 

Azathrim

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Yeah, it's an annoying bug. We can only hope they do fix it soon. :)
 

Sagano

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i get that on healer when i try to push phaseshift so it could be worse for you :D
 

Ovi1

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Foadon said:
OF wise you had to get useless buffs to be immune, like breathe, dmg shield, pox etc etc etc
...

Sounds like Mids think "you had to" bug abuse in OF :eek:
 

dante_must_die

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That's a serious bug but man having so much buffs and so much RAS and so many side effects from uses its a rare compination and i dont think so that mythic will care about fixing :mad:
Anyways all those buffs ayras etc are enought dont you think ? :D
 

Chimaira

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Foadon.

Some patch already released in the US said that the bufflimit cap is raised to 50 to help savage etc to use all self buffs together with all others

Regards
 

dante_must_die

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tell me about it my firend :p iam saying for the 90% is better this way couse this is a situation they will never face :D
 

Tuorin

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Really dont see warriors problem. Drop useless buffs like base af and maybe da if bging its if its such a problem. Same shit on my hero, just drop gimp buffs or dont take. Or if that such a problem dont use 1 of your shapeshifts.
 

Foadon

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Tuorin said:
Really dont see warriors problem. Drop useless buffs like base af and maybe da if bging its if its such a problem. Same shit on my hero, just drop gimp buffs or dont take. Or if that such a problem dont use 1 of your shapeshifts.

lol? and i could drop base af but the problem would still remain the same, as i have too much still
and to say drop da is redicilous, red runie da does 11dps, and im not like a warden that just sticks to the bg target and waits to spam grapple, i actually use both offense and defense in fights, so please be less clueless (and before u say da doesnt do much, it does between 40 and 70 added dmg, tell me 1 person who wouldnt want that dmg added every hit? i need EVERY buff that i use except base af, which i usually cancel when using af charges, still leaves 1 or 2 buffs/charges that i cant use just cus of coding

@ chim ; thx for reply, will just have to wait i guess
@ dante : the more buffs the better imo, spec af does loads against melee, aok aura does alot since its group wise, adds 40-50ish af and 5% hp

@ ofi : i dindt get useless buffs in OF to reach limit, and i never intentionally tried to get the limit except after knowing id just get chaingrappled for 2 mins by a rr2 warden, i was trying to explain that in OF i couldnt get immune without useless buffs, but now i can, and i cant help it unless i want to make myself less useful, and some ppl might try grapple me and i could be immune, and could think im abusing, which clearly i am not
 

Edlina

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Once so happy about bufflimit now so sad :(

Almost makes me cry, almost...
 

Tuorin

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Foadon said:
lol? and i could drop base af but the problem would still remain the same, as i have too much still

Could have same issue on my hero, also play off and defence. Have 2 shapeshifts as well if I choose to use. Use af charges need breath, ablative charge etc. 11dps damage is nice we dont have that we can take 3ish dps add or but we dont take it same with damage shield. We could have animist abs or something, all sortsa buffs. By taking those buffs can get the message. When you play off and def its v nice to be immune to grapple. I'd sooner ra things work.

However there should be more buff limit as some1 said earlier.
 

Aldrick

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Tuorin said:
Could have same issue on my hero, also play off and defence. Have 2 shapeshifts as well if I choose to use. Use af charges need breath, ablative charge etc. 11dps damage is nice we dont have that we can take 3ish dps add or but we dont take it same with damage shield. We could have animist abs or something, all sortsa buffs. By taking those buffs can get the message. When you play off and def its v nice to be immune to grapple. I'd sooner ra things work.

However there should be more buff limit as some1 said earlier.
by taking those buffs can get the message? who doesnt want abs buff? Everything that helps should be used so that u gain as much advantage over everyone else, but the fact that it gives immunity to grapple sucks and in OF there was no need to do anything since u didnt need waterbreath etc and when BO did gg there was noone that used it since its lame. But in NF u cant even have all the regular stuff on a warrior withouth reaching the limit and that sucks alot.
 

Ovi1

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inqy said:
one mid = all mids?

The implication behind the line was that the poster didn't abuse the bug, but in the circles he hung around in (other mids as no inter-realm chat...) it was considered a requirement.

Therefore the logical assumption is that mids did think it was necessary, to create immunity, but also that not ALL mids were guilty, as the poster wasn't for one...

As to the problem, since it affects all realms maybe look on it as another tactical element of the game, deciding which buffs stay and which go.
 

Littles

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I hope they give mids more utility in the next patch cos they clearly don't have enough.
 

Foadon

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Littles said:
I hope they give mids more utility in the next patch cos they clearly don't have enough.

alb has more buffs then mid so i wouldnt talk much :>
 

Esselinithia

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26: 26 as a limit doesn't look logical if you see the programming side of it, 32 would look like a natural limit, that is based on code itself. If it is 26 (or 25, and you had one effect that doesn't count) then it is a rule of the game. Mostly to reduce the effects of having two buffbots, and imho with the healer + shaman combo mids had an advantage, but the buff limit made them equal. It is here to prevent people with 3+ accounts use insane amount of buffs and get above everyone else.
 

Edlina

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remi said:
i cant use my shouts.


fucking useless game.

You can't use your shouts yet you got grappled all the time tonight :(

Such poor coding indeed! :(
 

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Chimaira said:
Some patch already released in the US said that the bufflimit cap is raised to 50 to help savage etc to use all self buffs together with all others
Finally.

What I don't understand is why they had to put a cap on it in the first place and now raise it to 50 instead of removing it ^^
 

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