My ( unimportant to most of you ) views on BW going P2P

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ECA

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What right do I have to even discuss this topic?
Well firstly i'm going to sign up.
Imho too many good GSPs have gone down the drain for my liking.
My experience with GSPs is this.
I hung around BW a lot, eventually wrote the original CS bot stuff with interviews with the bot developers, talked to SAS a lot, particularly around the time BW was under financial probs and when GAME took over.
I moved to Gamesinferno ( all hail the king of GSP's imho :p - at one point running 30 CS servers, and you would have been lucky to find a spot in any ), where I was made a CS admin, and adminned the league,and was going to run the whole T2 GI scene, untill T2 came out and we all decided it was crap and not worth running. ( when it first came out I couldnt even run it for 6 months due to fatal exception errors ).

I knew how much it cost to the run the service, and the impact that the subsequent crash caused to the operational staff members lives.
Gamesinferno was trying to go P2P but a series of events caused that to be impossible to achieve, to go P2P a GSP needs a sufficient userbase to make it viable even if 75% of its users piss off, which is a considerable task.
I think that Barrysworld, with the support of GAME behind it, and the mentions in the press ( the gaming rags only, since gaming means shit to tabloids and broadsheets atm [ it will change eventually *mad cackle* ] )
will do ok, but I worked out that BW will need around 10k subscribers to maintain its current service, maybe more.
If the number of servers is decreased however that number will come down.
I for one think that even if BW is not viable now it will be within 5 years, which is average for most businesses, and with GAME essentially picking up the tab, it should pay for itself.

I also think that GAME will launch a host of offers with new games - ie buy a game from us get 3 months free at BW.
That type of thing.
As well as leaflets in shops and ads in the gaming rags.

BW was one of the first GSP's on the UK scene, and I think that the level of experience, the financial backing, and the support of GAME will ensure its success.

Also note that if BW fails we're going to have to go and play elsewhere, like Jolt - surely thats a good enough reason to stump up the cash in itself :)

PS: I know I mentioned GI a bit too much but hey it meant a lot to me :)
 
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ECA

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I put it in a seperate thread cuz the other one is 6 pages long already :p
 
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Summo

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Yeah, because that's where people are discussing it.
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by ECA
I put it in a seperate thread cuz the other one is 6 pages long already :p

And we don't need everyone creating new ones to air stale POV.
 
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ECA

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Originally posted by Embattle


And we don't need everyone creating new ones to air stale POV.


thats right slag off paying customers, just what you need to foster a good relationship with them.
 
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Embattle

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They're not my customers in any way shape or form...slag :p
 
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Summo

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That's not an official disclaimer but it could be, you see? It could be


/edit: I would also like to add 'cunt' 'fuck' and 'gaping minge' just to prove a point.
 
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bodhi

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Originally posted by ECA



thats right slag off paying customers, just what you need to foster a good relationship with them.

Fuck off cunt.
 

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Just my two penneth worth

The suits at GAME read this board, and I suspect that if they see people slagging off or bitching or generally abusing subscribers they will start the question the reasoning behind keeping the forums "free".

Personally I don't care if they are free or available only to subscribers, but the suits will care.

Don't take it as gospel, I am responding here with an unbiased view as I have no preference to where they sit in the scheme of things.
 
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Summo

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Ban Bodhi!

Sacrifice him to appease the suits!

:uhoh:
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by DBs

The suits at GAME read this board, and I suspect that if they see people slagging off or bitching or generally abusing subscribers they will start the question the reasoning behind keeping the forums "free".

That won't stop me ;)
 
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Shocko

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What about me, i reckon i'd look great in a suit... It would go with the hair brilliantly :D
 
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ECA

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I dont mind bodhi telling me to FO, cuz he aint getting SFA from me paying BW, but I take offense when people associated with a product i'm paying for do.

Theres a very different approach to the attitude you will accept from when you are getting something for free and when your paying.

If your getting servers for free and the admin is pissing about with grav and generally dossing about, then its his perogative, if I got that on a paying server i'd demand a refund.

As to the suits - tell them that the forums promote community and integrate potential customers into the environment increasing the number of paying customers :)
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by ECA
I dont mind bodhi telling me to FO, cuz he aint getting SFA from me paying BW, but I take offense when people associated with a product i'm paying for do.

Niether am I you dickless wonder, I just mod the Technation forum and thats it :rolleyes:
 
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.cage

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The suits at GAME read this board, and I suspect that if they see people slagging off or bitching or generally abusing subscribers they will start the question the reasoning behind keeping the forums "free".

Here's hoping.
 
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mr.Blacky

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Embattle doesn't care, he likes to argue I think.
 

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