My Savage Screens.

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tildson

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Originally posted by m4rk
Don't understand this, a chanter complaining about Savages? Hmm I seem to remember chanters spamming pbaoe/stun/debuff/nuke and hitting for stupid amounts of dmg, whats the difference?
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the interupt-system? get hit and u cant melee for 3secs, see how that'd work out xD
 
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AbPoon

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He was speed debuffed and target was sitting if you aint figured it out yet :/ same as my 2k frenzy hit ^^
 
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tildson

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Sherlock has spoken ;)

Give me frenzy and ill do 3k :> Was my brother performing this hit though.
 
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Alantin

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Nice with a screen that actually show that we mostly get single hits :)

I counted 10 singles and 3 double out of 19 attacks and the average number of swings per attack to 2.1 . It is abit over average but you need some luck to get that many quads. Altough when you get a quad you often get another quad right after just like in that screen and that is probably because of Mythics choice of a streaky random generator.

Hope you can produce some screens of the other side also.... like the 14 single hits in a row I counted to in one fight.
 
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Puppetmistress

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Originally posted by AbPoon
He was speed debuffed and target was sitting if you aint figured it out yet :/ same as my 2k frenzy hit ^^
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At what speed is he swinging then ?
 
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Aloca

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Originally posted by Alantin
Nice with a screen that actually show that we mostly get single hits :)

I counted 10 singles and 3 double out of 19 attacks and the average number of swings per attack to 2.1 . It is abit over average but you need some luck to get that many quads. Altough when you get a quad you often get another quad right after just like in that screen and that is probably because of Mythics choice of a streaky random generator.

Hope you can produce some screens of the other side also.... like the 14 single hits in a row I counted to in one fight.
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Yes u do most single hits. but the fact that u do more quads than duo and tripple hits is the problem. when a weak class like healer or mage get hit by a quad, they often die before any chanse at all to even insta heal them. maybe the quad itself shouldnt 1hit them, but if they been hurt by ex a single hit before quad its bye bye.
 
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old.Kerosene

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Woo... Thought the forums had cocked up there for a minute and I was reading two threads all rolled into one.

Nerfs come and nerfs go. That's why you'll never see me moaning at any class. Each is fun to play in it's own way.
 
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BF_Iggy

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Originally posted by Alantin
Hope you can produce some screens of the other side also.... like the 14 single hits in a row I counted to in one fight.
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Want the screenie of Mumin hittin me with 4 quads on a row? (thank God BoF was up)
 
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old.Lythande

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Originally posted by Puppetmistress
At what speed is he swinging then ?
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Seeing that he only uses the DPS-buff and is haste-debuffed, not very fast. Point plz?
 
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VodkaFairy

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
so i was rolling around in the whines on vn after the intial savage 'adjustment', when i came across this thread, which ties in to my thread regarding people in mid with brains --

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=56410192&replies=29

i couldnt be bothered with reading all the shit, but look at some of the replies -

there are actually people, who wholeheartedly believe that we (albs/hibs/mythic), seek nothing more than to totally render midgard useless.

so i was talking on irc and, here's something disturbing/interesting -

[01:02] <Tzeentch> they should get a team of psychologists onto daoc
[01:02] <Tzeentch> its interesting to see how an entire group of people (mids)
[01:02] <Tzeentch> can totally deny something so clear
[01:02] <Tzeentch> and in an environment like a game
[01:02] <Tzeentch> make believe statements such as - They just want to nerf another midgaard class is all! There is no basis in reality for their arguments.
[01:02] <Stallion> their like nazi
[01:03] <Tzeentch> yeah
[01:03] <Tzeentch> lol
[01:03] <Tzeentch> kinda
[01:03] <Stallion> that deny the extermination of jews
[01:03] <Stallion> ;(
[01:03] <Tzeentch> like OMF you are ALL lying and damn we are right
[01:03] <Stallion> fucking sad much fucks
[01:03] <Tzeentch> disturbing
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You should really split the rvr community in two parts. The ones with rvr experience that make/have good groups. And the ones with hardly rvr experience that make the shitty groups that always lack one or more essential classes, realm ranks, and good equipment.

The first group, aren't naive at all. Look at mumin, sushii, and what-ever those savages are called, they know savages are overpowered, they don't really deny it either. It's a FACT savages are totally out of line with the rest of the tanks atm. This is why savages need a little nerf, to make people choose a savage in the group for their ability (like a warrior has guard, zerker has good pf and damage, etc) instead of simply being silly overpowered.

The second group are people that make the comments like in that thread. They are in teams that will almost 100% sure lose against groups in the first group. Making groups in midgard isn't as simply as people think it is, there's more to it than throwing 3 healers, 1 shaman, 1 skald and 3 tanks in it. They all need to have a specific spec before you have a dreamteam like JH for example. Picture a mid group that is far from perfect, they will die all the time. They will whine about being underpowered etc. They invite a zerker, and are really happy to get a few kills. Zerker gets nerfed, all these people start crying they've lost their rp-cows. But weeeeee :p They have a new one, the savage.

What I mean is, these people think they die because they are underpowered, but in fact they die because the group doesn't work well together + low rr people + bad equipment + bad play, you name it. If they throw in a savage they are almost sure to get a few kills in a fight, or maybe even WIN a fight if they have 2-3 well trained savages that assist each other. Of course these people will whine when the savage gets a nerf.

:D
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by m4rk
Don't understand this, a chanter complaining about Savages? Hmm I seem to remember chanters spamming pbaoe/stun/debuff/nuke and hitting for stupid amounts of dmg, whats the difference?
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chanters have 2300hps?
chanters have perma-moc?
chanters have cheap ip, purge& det?


now shut the fuck up before you embarass yourself even more
 
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Puppetmistress

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Originally posted by old.Lythande
Seeing that he only uses the DPS-buff and is haste-debuffed, not very fast. Point plz?
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Point is that I am curious how much the haste-debuffs affects swingspeed.

AFAIK h2h weapons are quite fast most of the times and most savages have high quickness.

So I fail to see how the haste-debuff changes that much to his damage. Then I think its pretty impressive the potential dps a savage can do.
 
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Belomar

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You are a strafing fool, Stallion. Zero respect. :(
 
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Stallion-

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Originally posted by Belomar
You are a strafing fool, Stallion. Zero respect. :(
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surley...
does this concern what happened in odin or this post? :rolleyes:
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by Stallion-
surley...
does this concern what happened in odin or this post? :rolleyes:
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Odin's of course. I burn my 23 realm skill point RA and get owned by game mechanics. :(
 
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Stallion-

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what u want me to do... stand infront of u doing unstyled. while u moc into me?. No thx.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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wow...a savage thread on bw? :eek:

+1 or smth?
 
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Vasconcelos

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Re: Re: My Savage Screens.

Originally posted by phule_gubben
And your point is?
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Guess he wants to stress (even more) that savages are insanely overpowered.
 
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Lumikki

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Wow, how original, you pointed out that savages are overpowered!! Such an accomplishment.

Btw.. Bumblebee's sting...?!?! :D

xx
 
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Amadon

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Originally posted by Belomar
Odin's of course. I burn my 23 realm skill point RA and get owned by game mechanics. :(
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but mythic are happy with where caster survivability/damage is!11!!1!1!

fucking clueless retards (mythic that is :p )

k off topic etc.. sorry..
 
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old.Zoyster

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
so i was rolling around in the whines on vn after the intial savage 'adjustment', when i came across this thread, which ties in to my thread regarding people in mid with brains --

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=56410192&replies=29

i couldnt be bothered with reading all the shit, but look at some of the replies -

there are actually people, who wholeheartedly believe that we (albs/hibs/mythic), seek nothing more than to totally render midgard useless.

so i was talking on irc and, here's something disturbing/interesting -

[01:02] <Tzeentch> they should get a team of psychologists onto daoc
[01:02] <Tzeentch> its interesting to see how an entire group of people (mids)
[01:02] <Tzeentch> can totally deny something so clear
[01:02] <Tzeentch> and in an environment like a game
[01:02] <Tzeentch> make believe statements such as - They just want to nerf another midgaard class is all! There is no basis in reality for their arguments.
[01:02] <Stallion> their like nazi
[01:03] <Tzeentch> yeah
[01:03] <Tzeentch> lol
[01:03] <Tzeentch> kinda
[01:03] <Stallion> that deny the extermination of jews
[01:03] <Stallion> ;(
[01:03] <Tzeentch> like OMF you are ALL lying and damn we are right
[01:03] <Stallion> fucking sad much fucks
[01:03] <Tzeentch> disturbing
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The thing is, I genuinely think that a type of person picks which realm they like to play on........ I am at work so can't write a thesis or anything.

Hibbbs are the type of people that are prolly quite clever, deffo a majority of Ganja smokas, good sense of humour, a little loopy, etc.............

Albions are noble, one could say middle-class, with a mixture of humerous and GREAT people, but a few n00bies.

Midds are generally Moody, arrogant, insecure to the point that they cannot accept a death and Rude! just liek the trolls they play. No offense intended, just my observation.
 
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VVatchh

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Originally posted by old.Zoyster

Hibbbs are the type of people that are prolly quite clever, deffo a majority of Ganja smokas, good sense of humour, a little loopy, etc.............

Albions are noble, one could say middle-class, with a mixture of humerous and GREAT people, but a few n00bies.

Midds are generally Moody, arrogant, insecure to the point that they cannot accept a death and Rude! just liek the trolls they play. No offense intended, just my observation.
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Great people like you ? haha keep retarded comments to urself and concentrate on teh albzerg.
 
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