My answer in edlinas thread

[pbuck]

Again someone will make a fool out of himself(aka edlina) and accuse me without even having PROOF that i use any tricks/hacks.
I'll explain to everyone how this" lag trick" works so they stop making clueless posts about lamers/banning once and for all.
I lead my groups in rvr with autorun on(of course) and sometimes i even ask the group to sprint using paladin end chant so we get to the point we want faster(especially when we hear reports of mid hibs).When i reach maximum nuking range(1500) i click on enemy and /face.Now because of my lag/laggy si engine ill see myself stopped and nuking but others will see me warping ahead moving towards the enemies and casting(no problem with that i guess just lag..) then at some point warp back at the point i see myself casting(because of lag).When groups get closer and tanks get close to me i turn, press control(autorun) and alt(sprint) and move away while at the same time i turn my camera to see if the tanks are still following me.As soon as i see that the tank is no longer on me i pick a target /face and nuke.Now if there was no lag u would see me stopping changing direction and nuking but because of lag my image keeps sprinting away for some time while in really i have stopped and im nuking.At some point i will warp back but until then other casters will see me as too far away(while i may cast a nuke or two) and tanks will see me as not in view or too far away.
If u want to blame someone who is lagging fine but i did nothing wrong just used the tools of tha game(/sprint /autorun /face).
Any why exactly do u have to post a way to deliberately cause this?Wouldnt this make things even worse?
I dont give a fuck about what people think about me really but this is going too far.I expect you to either make an intelligent reply to my post or dont make one at all(this goes to the various forum trolls/post farmers etc)

This is for those who wont be able to see it if thread gets too long

 

[Turamber]

Personally I don't think they deserve a proper reply --- nothing you say will make them feel any different. People who can flame like that with no evidence have already decided the 'truth'.

 

[Krissy]

as he said above, ur never change there mind, just jelous they got no relics.

Hibs seem demorilised today, its just tehre way of hating us more

 

[Jonaldo]

cheat0r!

 

[VidX]

Yip, I know what you are talking about and it does happen Pbuck, so you will normally warp about at the start of a fight.

But 2 minutes into it? yip, that makes sense

 

[Frair]

I'm not in RvR often, but happed to me often that i was in melee range, sticked to target and still target was too far. That happens both in PvE and RvR. That's one of "warp lags". Unfortunately some players seemed to be allmost allways in warp lag. And that's what is strange.

Unfortunately these kind of things CAN'T be proved without looking to server logs. And i'm afraid that GOA or Mythic is lazy for that, if not even not willing. It could shows up, that unfortunately problem is and was in poorly programmed engine and/or poorly designed network equipment.

Until this will happens you can't prove that people are using some kind of cheat, nor they can prove themself they are not using it. It will goes to people feeling and let's face it - if tank can't hit for minute or so caster because caster is out of range, that tank will always tend to believe in use of cheat instead engine problem. After all, would any company sell such poorly programmed engine?

btw I still don't like Walker and others albs using buffbots - pff.. but that's another story

 

[Krissy]

*whistles*

 

[pudzy]

One word Pbuck - Paragraph.

 

[Vindici]

I've seen lag. Thats not lag.
U think ur the only person using SI and a dodgy computer? Lots of people do and they dont do anything like what u do.
My friend was pbaoeing u and then u were suddenly miles away nuking him. He's tried DD but always gets out of view. And many people including myself have trouble meleeing u aswell.

Enjoy the rps.

 

[Solid]

However you explain it Pbuck, its still KNOWLINGY and ACTIVELY using an undocumented flaw in the game to gain an unfair advantage over your opposition (more often that not a melee class from an opposing realm).

Dispute that!!!

 

[Lochlyessa]

Heh solid, so you expect him, as a caster, to not use /sprint /face etc, cos he _might_ lag a bit when he does? Try playing a caster in rvr w/o face and sprint, then come back to me with that line

 

[Solid]

read the sentence again Loch, where did I say he should get banned for it? I never mentioned that its right or wrong, please don't make me trudge thru the CoC just to make this crystal clear.

 

[j000 d000d]

Yes it's a flaw in the game which you can't avoid as a caster.

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Solid
However you explain it Pbuck, its still KNOWLINGY and ACTIVELY using an undocumented flaw in the game to gain an unfair advantage over your opposition (more often that not a melee class from an opposing realm).

Dispute that!!!

You make it sound like its my fault..
How about trying to play your thane without /stick?GG
You dont even play against me and yet take such a negative stance on my lag and use of commands.Talk about hysteria..

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by Lochlyessa
Heh solid, so you expect him, as a caster, to not use /sprint /face etc, cos he _might_ lag a bit when he does? Try playing a caster in rvr w/o face and sprint, then come back to me with that line

I have, if you're good you don't *need* to use this tactic, sprint is only needed to get away from tanks and to drain their end (which is impossible against mids now thanks to the most overpowered implementation of end regen possible). Loch, making yourself look silly again n00b!

Originally posted by Teador
Yes it's a flaw in the game which you can't avoid as a caster.

See my answer above ^^ you can quite easily avoid it actually.

 

[Solid]

are we not talking about the flaw in the game re commands? I wasnt singling YOU out as I had more woes with bitch ass luri manachanters in Odins that I have with any albs.

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Vindici
I've seen lag. Thats not lag.
U think ur the only person using SI and a dodgy computer? Lots of people do and they dont do anything like what u do.
My friend was pbaoeing u and then u were suddenly miles away nuking him. He's tried DD but always gets out of view. And many people including myself have trouble meleeing u aswell.

Enjoy the rps.

Is there anyone who plays as i do in rvr?How many casters use autorun and /face vs every opponent they target?And even if they do, do they play as much as me so that other people notice it?Hard to explain to hysterical people my point of view anyway.

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Solid
are we not talking about the flaw in the game re commands? I wasnt singling YOU out as I had more woes with bitch ass luri manachanters in Odins that I have with any albs.

The problem is that noone will bitch about these manachanters since noone knows them anyway,but they WILL bitch about me

 

[Solid]

Let me be the first then:

Balbutta has been the worst, before I quit for a while couple months back, he was always doing precicely whats seen on that screeny in Odins, ALL the freaking time.

BTW pbuck yer notoriority comes with its ups and downs, people don't remember no-name players, and with every tom dick and harry makign manachanters u cant tell one from another.

 

[SilverHood]

pbucks dies easily enough when solo

Never had problems with any albs, except maybe septina or something? Avalonian anyway, she always seems to mez me when I'm behind her. (ie, out of sight).

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by pbuck
The problem is that noone will bitch about these manachanters since noone knows them anyway,but they WILL bitch about me

You seem to make out that you're actually famous? people only bitch about you for cheating, not because you're good or have killed so many that you're feared or anything.. gg

build yourself up some more, cos you're fucking easy to know down


^^

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Omniscieous
You seem to make out that you're actually famous? people only bitch about you for cheating, not because you're good or have killed so many that you're feared or anything.. gg

build yourself up some more, cos you're fucking easy to know down


^^

The guy with 2 accounts on 2 different realms on save server speaks about cheating.Go figure!

 

[amazingsteve]

Oi Corny, pbuck is famous! well, for his lagging anyway

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Omniscieous
You seem to make out that you're actually famous? people only bitch about you for cheating, not because you're good or have killed so many that you're feared or anything.. gg

build yourself up some more, cos you're fucking easy to know down


^^

The guy with 2 accounts in 2 different realms in the same server speaks about cheating.Go figure!

 

[Evander]

Originally posted by pbuck
Is there anyone who plays as i do in rvr?How many casters use autorun and /face vs every opponent they target?And even if they do, do they play as much as me so that other people notice it?Hard to explain to hysterical people my point of view anyway.

Probally quite a few do the same as u do but do all of them lag like u, NO

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by Omniscieous
I have, if you're good you don't *need* to use this tactic, sprint is only needed to get away from tanks and to drain their end (which is impossible against mids now thanks to the most overpowered implementation of end regen possible). Loch, making yourself look silly again n00b!

/face is a wonderful button and i wouldn't play as good without it

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by pbuck
The guy with 2 accounts in 2 different realms in the same server speaks about cheating.Go figure!

You have to post that twice? or new lag twick?

1) I assume it's not cheating, Brannor was E&E and did it for a long time so if it was cheating he should never have allowed it or would've had to report himself to GOA.

2) Do you know what the word 'inactive' means? because I only have one account running, and that's midgard.

CRY MORE NOOB!

 

[Frair]

Originally posted by pbuck
The guy with 2 accounts on 2 different realms on save server speaks about cheating.Go figure!

Hmm, but Cornell never hides that he is both in alb/pryd and hib/pryd. If you are so afraid that he is using it as hibernia spy don't play with him You are trying to defend yourself here now you are talking sh...s

 

[Tesla Monkor]

The only way problems like these can be solved, is if the game ENFORCES a minimum level of PC hardware and connectionspeed.

While I'm sure some of the people mentioned in the threads are actively misusing it, I'm also sure the majority isn't. (Cheating)

Problem is that you can't just say 'Dude, you have a sucky pc and a crap connection. You're not allowed to play.'. So they get to play and in that ruin the fun of others who do not have crappy gear and don't lag, who have to accept their 'apologies' and see them do it time and time again.

 

[Sagba]

Originally posted by Tesla Monkor
Problem is that you can't just say 'Dude, you have a sucky pc and a crap connection. You're not allowed to play.'. So they get to play and in that ruin the fun of others who do not have crappy gear and don't lag, who have to accept their 'apologies' and see them do it time and time again.

My connection is good enough but my PC is crappy. If there is 20+ players on my screen I have <10fps. So yes, I lag a lot, but it makes it impossible to play my Armsman and with my Wizard I stop and spam PBAE if it get too laggy. RvR is the thing I enjoy most in this game and I would enjoy it more with better PC.

I dont want to ruin the fun of others. If you ever see my Wizzie and he win because you wasn't able to hit him because of the lag let me know, I will retire/buy a new PC Mostly I die without knowing what killed me tho.