Most wanted class in Emain

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old.SadonTheGrey

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Basically I'm wanted to level a Mid char to 50 on this server for RvR, but I was wondering which is the most wanted/useful class atm...

I have a wizard atm on Prydwen but wizards are spat on by everyone... all the high RR wizards play alts now, and not a single gank squad from Alb/Pry has wizards in it: we just don't get invited and generally spend a lot of time sitting at APK.

So... which class am I likely to get a good group with? I know I'll probably need to join an RvR guild to get a truly effective group, but even so I'd rather join with a wanted class than a useless/unwanted one.

Was think skald or healer, think I'd like to play both of them.
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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Gah, no SI.

Also, whilst I'm not an expert on Mid, I thought they were gimped? :rolleyes:
 
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old.Rei Ayanami

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I have a bonearmy BD and they absolutely rock :) There is nothing better than to command my babies around and kill various mages and healing classes while dotting their arshes :)

Else SM's are good if you know how to play one (which most people don't) and healers, shammys and skalds are wanted too.
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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BD's are out cos I have no SI.

I wouldn't mind playing either of the closses tbh.

Aug/cave shammy looks fun Arnor, are they still wanted in groups? I though cave spec is gimped?

The only problem I forsee with skalds is that groups only need one skald, whereas 2 healers are quite normal.
 
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raithian

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first sm are only as good as the healers and tanks you have with you thay are crap if thay are crap you need a good pac healer to mes then stune when sm is rdy you need good tanks to help the sm if he gets attacks as thay can maybe take 3 hits before thay die
 
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vargen

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Skald.
If you want to enjoy RvR, go for skald. so damn funny.
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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Don't fancy an SM tbh.

That's the spec I was thinking of, Jakobi :)

If I made a shaman I guess I'd need end regen 5?

How does this sound:

43 aug - end regen 5, 24% heat resistance buff
27 mend - First group friggs, less variance of baseline heals
18 cave - 17 for 1st AE DoT, leftover points take it to 18
 
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old.anubis

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skald, savage, shaman, healer, rm, sm
basically everything apart from thanes :p

for shaman bump up cave for pbae disease
smth like 43 aug 31 cave rest mend
 
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fl3a

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Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey
Don't fancy an SM tbh.

That's the spec I was thinking of, Jakobi :)

If I made a shaman I guess I'd need end regen 5?

How does this sound:

43 aug - end regen 5, 24% heat resistance buff
27 mend - First group friggs, less variance of baseline heals
18 cave - 17 for 1st AE DoT, leftover points take it to 18
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i would say swap cave and mend. the PBAE disease aka shammy fart is our only way out of melee combat (other than ichor, that costs 14 RA points).
 
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agon

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Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey
Don't fancy an SM tbh.

That's the spec I was thinking of, Jakobi :)

If I made a shaman I guess I'd need end regen 5?

How does this sound:

43 aug - end regen 5, 24% heat resistance buff
27 mend - First group friggs, less variance of baseline heals
18 cave - 17 for 1st AE DoT, leftover points take it to 18
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End 5 is nice, but it's not something you must have.. Most shammies got end 4
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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How about

37 aug
15 mend
36 cave - may aswell get the 2nd to last DoT if I'm taking it to 31 anyway :p

? :)
 
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ulke

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Go for a healer mate !!
I'm no expert on healerspeccs but pac/mend works very well :)
A good rvr-grp have 2healers so, more healers is always needed....

If I were to start from scratch I woulda started a healer for sure.....

good luck
 
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fl3a

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Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey
How about

37 aug
15 mend
36 cave - may aswell get the 2nd to last DoT if I'm taking it to 31 anyway :p

? :)
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pfft. might as well go with my spec then - 46 cave 16 mend 23 aug :D

tbh there are 3 different shammy specs ... numbers might vary but they are:

40+ cave, 20+ aug - cave shammy, mostly going for last aedot
low 40-s / high 30-s cave, mid 30-s aug - balanced, good for lots of things.
high 20-s / low 30-s cave, ~40 aug - mostly have end 5 - can be useful in open field (kite, aeroot) but normally dont have enough spec points to even get medicore mend spec.

oh, and please dont listen to me. you will gimp yourself.
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey
How about

37 aug
15 mend
36 cave - may aswell get the 2nd to last DoT if I'm taking it to 31 anyway :p

? :)
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I would go 37Aug/26Mend/29Cave or 37Aug/35Mend/17Cave for a balanced Shaman spec. Since the grp needs a Pac healer you need to take care of some of the healing (in case you don't get Pac + Aug/Mend Healer in grp). I like the last one for better healing.

If you want to be offensive go 41Cave/32Aug/14Mend or 46Cave/24Aug/14Mend.

Edit: If you want to make a RvR Char...make a Healer, there simply are not enough of them. Since mid need 2 Healers in a perfect RvR grp you can't go wrong if you roll one. THe Healer is the foundations of any grp both PvE and RvR - so roll one and be loved.
 
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Whisperess

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Originally posted by raithian
first sm are only as good as the healers and tanks you have with you thay are crap if thay are crap you need a good pac healer to mes then stune when sm is rdy you need good tanks to help the sm if he gets attacks as thay can maybe take 3 hits before thay die
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This is true - for those who can't play SM's ( just as Rei stated ).

A good healer sidekick helps a lot - but it's not crucial.


But alas, if you don't fancy playing a SM, I won't force you :D
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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37Aug/35Mend/17Cave

I quite like this spec actually ><

Thanks for the replies all :)

Seems like a toss up between a 44/31 healer or the above shaman template.

Only time will tell
 
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old.Sko

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Actually shammie's true powah is disease/root occasional dot.
pbaoe disease is a must have, as its only way for shammie to escape , or interrupt mages and screw healers with tanks on your arse. Imo less then 27 cave is severly gimping yourself - you'll die a lot more and bring less power to your group.
 
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ignoramus

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Suppresion RM imo

don't see _that_ many of them around.........

*shrug*
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by old.Sko
Actually shammie's true powah is disease/root occasional dot.
pbaoe disease is a must have, as its only way for shammie to escape , or interrupt mages and screw healers with tanks on your arse. Imo less then 27 cave is severly gimping yourself - you'll die a lot more and bring less power to your group.
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IMHO Aug/Mend Shaman is not gimped. A spec like 37Aug/35Mend/17Cave is great for support. In addition you have the lowest AEDoT for Keep.
 
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cadiva

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Originally posted by Runolaz
IMHO Aug/Mend Shaman is not gimped. A spec like 37Aug/35Mend/17Cave is great for support. In addition you have the lowest AEDoT for Keep.
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This is very true. My spec is slighly different, I have 38 aug/35 mend/15 cave so I don't have the first AEdot but I have got the last but one set of resist buffs, the second to last group friggs and the rest of the useful cave stuff, ie root, AEdisease etc as well as single target DoT.

I manage pretty well with this spec as more often than not my group runs with three shamen (1 cave spec, me and 1 mend spec) and so we're pretty well taken care of across all fronts.

The average spec to get a balanced shammie is the one Runolaz suggests as that gives you the first AEdot, although you do lose out on a level on two of the resist buffs.

Shamen are great fun to play and there are many many ways of not giving end regen/dmg add to rude ass morons who can't ask for them properly ;)


Oh on a PS note, if you need to sort out a cash transfer to help you out here on Mid/Excal and if your wizzie is on Alb/Pryd I can probably help you out there, as can the rest of my guild, as we have an Alb alt PB xp group rapidly running out of cash.
 
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Denisée

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Since you asked for a 'needed' class you got a few options imo:

Healer (Pac/Mend)
Shaman (Aug/Mend, atleast 38 aug)
Skald
Runemaster (full Supp)


As I see RvR atm right now, these are the classes that are needed the most. (by order I've written too)
 
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jakobi

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Shaman should be 43 aug for b00fs etc.
27 cave to get the pbaoe disease shout, will save your ass loads, especially next patch when shamans become prime targets due to the end regen nerf.

supp rm...no thx, gank grps are so much better in rvr. I'd take a savage/zerk/warrior any day over a supp rm.
 
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Denisée

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Originally posted by jakobi
Shaman should be 43 aug for b00fs etc.
27 cave to get the pbaoe disease shout, will save your ass loads, especially next patch when shamans become prime targets due to the end regen nerf.

supp rm...no thx, gank grps are so much better in rvr. I'd take a savage/zerk/warrior any day over a supp rm.
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Buffbots normaly do the main buffing and ur right about one thing with the RM's. 10s pbt is a waste, but 6s is handy.
 
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