Most OP solo vamp or warlock?

[Talivar]

I know every1 rushes and says warlock ofc but why?.A warlock can kill much faster yes but when his chamber down he is pretty easy, a vamp on other hand can be rdy to kill again and again and again if he plays well.Pls discuss and dont just turn into a nerf warlocks thread

 

[Duzic]

if he plays well

i warlock doesnt need 2 do that 2 kill stuff

 

[Lethul]

warlock

 

[rampant]

vamps - esp with the unbreakable/ uncc'able speed thingie - they run around like headless chickens and take ages to kill

 

[Lethul]

vamps - esp with the unbreakable/ uncc'able speed thingie - they run around like headless chickens and take ages to kill

i hope u got charge on your merc aswell

 

[Surprising Death]

vamps - esp with the unbreakable/ uncc'able speed thingie - they run around like headless chickens and take ages to kill

depends what class tbh. warlock is hard for all, unless they have some sort of stun thats possible to put without dying. Vamp is hard for most tanks (except lighttanks). Vamps even have a chance on necros i think. And they have good interupts and such against caster, and charge3, which is very crucial

 

[Akyma]

Warlock BL lolz, it dont is OP, it is a bug of the game

 

[censi]

agree it totally depends on the circumstances.

warlock with chambers insta beats anything if its allowed to unload its chambers.

if you see a warlock with its chambers down then attack on it will be considered an add by the warlock.

dont consider vamps overpowered though. I duel them and do about the same as I do V any half decent tank. (I get prawned)

 

[rvn]

vamps are uber easy to kill with s/s tank.

they are pretty good vs all other classes tho.

 

[Flimgoblin]

I can kill vamps with my uber crossbow armsman (well technically "vamp" multiple vamps = dead frog)

sometimes...

a warlock without chambers took till half a second after I'd slammed his bladeturn to kill me - obviously underpowered.

 

[Ilienwyn]

can I get charge on my reaver too?

 

[Urgluf]

they are both OP

 

[Konah]

warlock

 

[Calo]

agree it totally depends on the circumstances.

warlock with chambers insta beats anything if its allowed to unload its chambers.

if you see a warlock with its chambers down then attack on it will be considered an add by the warlock.

dont consider vamps overpowered though. I duel them and do about the same as I do V any half decent tank. (I get prawned)

Nice of u of not adding on me on that fight with rr4 mincer
Not that i was buffed or wanted to use any RA or actually wanted a fight but still, nice!
think the alb was happy.

 

[censi]

I never add on people I have respect for, and theres a lot of albs and mids that are the same (95% dont give a fook though)

it was actually that mincer skiifil or summin helped me when some mid stealther added on me trying to kill a warlock with 3 chambers up though.

 

[Cerberos]

Wonder what Mythic was thinking when they gave the vamp climp wall, so now both the albs and hibs can bring "tanks" into keeps while mid can only bring a stealth class, but i guess thats what happens when there are so many whiners playing hib and alb.

 

[Flimgoblin]

i guess thats what happens when there are so many whiners playing hib and alb.

I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to decide what the existence of the warlock class implies

 

[Eemma]

Only chance vamp has of beaten other classes is if you let them get enough power I think.. I wouldnt say Vamp is overpowered in anyway. And in group its pretty averange, where as Warlock can insta the key class then prolly get time to load chambers and insta again QQ

I've actually fought a mid group with hmm... 3-4 locks iirc and we all pretty much insta died, donno what went wrong tho as we won the mezz

 

[Duzic]

met a grp with 3-4 warlocks 2day, they pritty much insta died 2 aurores and xandro several times

 

[LordjOX]

I know every1 rushes and says warlock ofc but why?.A warlock can kill much faster yes but when his chamber down he is pretty easy, a vamp on other hand can be rdy to kill again and again and again if he plays well.Pls discuss and dont just turn into a nerf warlocks thread

You have to assume that both classes are ready to their teeth when they go solo
I'd say warlock yes..

 

[Phule_Gubben]

If, warlock needs an If to compete like in (If) chambers are up + buffed. Vampiirs don't. Simple as that.

 

[Kagato]

Vamps are a good class, but only overpowered when fighting unbuffed people, In other words, camping poc, its a typical lack of fore sight on mythics behalf that vamps would naturally flock there for east rps due to this.

In the open field they are generally good and only weak vs heavy tanks, which I wont complain about naturally.

Of cause if you allow them to get power up then they become a nuisance and difficult to pull back from.

Warlocks on the other hand will always be over powered instant killers no matter what class they are fighting.

 

[Mirt]

1v1 Vampiirs are rather nasty vs low - medium defense classes. Not had many problems killing stealthers, light tanks, or casters (except warlocks & SoI + MoC sorcs). Heavy tanks of course own me, friars should do too (powerleak), but I've not seen any recently.

8v8 Vampiir seem ok, a bit easy to kill pethaps, however DPS is pretty nice. I've got 2287ws (should break 2300 soon) with the self buff, and have a swing speed of ~1.9s with a 4.2. I'm seeing commonly ~270 on vampiiric feint and ~420 on eye shot, with about a 150-200 claw. I don't have banespike yet, will be intersting to see what that does for my damage.

 

[Minstrel]

i hope u got charge on your merc aswell

ehm charge? wtf is that?

 

[Mirari]

i'd say warlock if the chambers are up, even if they aren't tho they often have 3 ish+ uninterruptable lifetaps, survive that and youre ok, but prenerf that wont really happen unless youre a buffed caster with moc+lifetap

My thane is the only one who has problems with vampiirs, but just got mlxp enough to get powerleak on him, warrior takes em without probs, shaman as well but it takes a loooong time to kite them down.

What I noticed very recently tho was that my leirvik savage really rips them apart even unbuffed, savages hit them too fast and too hard, combine that with the thrust resist buff and evade/parry buff and they don't stand a chance.

That's leirvik tho

 

[Talivar]

My vamp kills the savages in leirvik 1 on 1 and the warlocks But yea well played high defence classes can kill me but they need to be well played,U be amazed how many try to chain slam me when im using charge

 

[Talivar]

And pls remeber this isnt an EGO post on my account, i really do think my class is OP, nothing to do with my skill or anything.

 

[Killrake]

Vamp though they can kill many ppl in a short while, if a warlock meets severel opponents chambers will go down fast, and they are a easy target.

1vs1 I think warlocks might have a + (if chambers is up)

But the poison warlocks have is damn OP (and yes I still say this even if I have a lvl 50 warlock)

 

[Mirari]

My vamp kills the savages in leirvik 1 on 1 and the warlocks But yea well played high defence classes can kill me but they need to be well played,U be amazed how many try to chain slam me when im using charge

hehehe well actually mate, it's you I was referring to when I said that I won over vamps

You and some other vamps I (surprisingly) havent had any probs with at all, I thought a savage would have probs with them unbuffed. Theres a champ who gives me a good kick in the nuts when hes fully buffed tho, as well as many other chars of course, but vamps is my main target with the savvy

 

[anioal]

some facts for Excalibur:
warlocks - rr4+ =37 (rr5+ =18)
vamps - rr4+ =12 (rr5+ =4)
bainshee - rr4+ =14 (rr5+ =8)

out of those 4 vamps, two of them got most of the rps duoing together and through extensive poc camping, the other two usually play in gankgroups

so much for the uber solo vamps

on paper a vamp can be a formidable opponent, a true killing machine, bla bla
in the lvl50 rvr... its not (tho they are very good in bg's versus unbuffed opponents). It can be good if the player is good, but not overpowered.